Kellogg Patio Plus Soil?

[AKDOGG]

Just found out about this soil and I was wondering can I use this Kellogg Patio Plus with out other amendments maybe with some worm casting and more perlite? Last year I bought soils that was called 215 soil and I bought like 8 yards of it and it seems really dry and not so good but a lot of people use it and their plants are monsters and some of my plants was pretty big too. I'll be growing outdoor with my home made 3x3x1 wood box. If anyone can chime in on this soil that would help me a lot. I was gonna go with ocean forest or roots 707 but it cost too much. Price on ocean forest is about $11 and 707 goes for $18 and Kellogg cost about $6

 

[BarnBuster]

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/646633-what-do-you-think-about.html https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/503401-has-anyone-tried-kellog-premium.html https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/647892-kellogg-patio-plus.html

 

[tylerrrrr]

I'm using right now, outdoors with good results.

It's just as hot as FFOF though.



And for 5 dollars a bag you can't beat that.

 

[AKDOGG]

thlerrrr did you just use it straight up or with other amendments if so what did you use?

 

[tylerrrrr]

I just added some gromulch and more perlite.

 

[AKDOGG]

The guy that works at home depot told me to use some kind of soil that they carry and add the steer manure that they also carry and I ask if he grows and he said no but his friends grow and they use kellogg patio plus soil and added those amendments. I was thinking of getting this and add more perlite and worm casting. So how long did you put your plants outdoor and what strain got any pics? Oh which gromulch did you? Home depot carrys kellogg gromulch might just add some of that too if it's good.

 

[eddy600]

It works good I mix it with perlite & peat moss.If you are growing large support the plants because it is a soft mix.

 

[SenorBrownWater]

i mixed it with steer manure,coco and leftover perlite for my smaller plants this year...

it stinks more than i remember....anyoe know what that smell is?

 

[angryblackman]

All my plants in the last 2 grows indoor and out have been in Kellogs Patio Plus with and without amendments.

 

[tylerrrrr]

I was thinking of getting this and add more perlite and worm casting. So how long did you put your plants outdoor and what strain got any pics? Oh which gromulch did you? Home depot carrys kellogg gromulch might just add some of that too if it's good.

The one bagseed I have in this soil has been growing good for about 3 weeks now.

And I used kelloggs gromulch. I just added about a handful or two.


More worm castings certainly would help.

This was taken about 2 weeks ago.

 

[AKDOGG]

I want to mix it up with ocean forest but not sure if it's a good idea. Angryblackman how big did your plants get doing outdoor with this soil? tylerrr how's that plant doing got any recent pics?

 

[angryblackman]

I want to mix it up with ocean forest but not sure if it's a good idea. Angryblackman how big did your plants get doing outdoor with this soil? tylerrr how's that plant doing got any recent pics?

I will toss some pics up for you.

I have used Maxsea and DirrtyD's soil mix with this soil with zero issues. Last 2 seasons pulled over 5# each.

 

[AKDOGG]

Nice big plants. So you just use Kellogg patio plus soil straight up with nothing added?

 

[angryblackman]

Thanks. I did do that on some but added Maxsea on others and mixed up some supersoil for the rest.

I would say in the 15-20 gal smartpots you could veg for 6-8 weeks without adding anything from my experience but if you do add something to the mix or during waterings you can get your plants to blow up!

 

[AKDOGG]

I'm gonna use nutes 1 or 2 weeks after I transplant my plants to this soil my grow box is 3x3x1 and I think I need about 9cu ft to fill up my grow box but I still have my last years soil mix the soil is called 215 mixed soil and it's really dry and it is not that good but I did get my plants about 5 feet tall and 5 feet wide so I'll just mix it with the kellogg patio plus. So adding ocean forest to it just another waste of money?

 

[angryblackman]

I'm gonna use nutes 1 or 2 weeks after I transplant my plants to this soil my grow box is 3x3x1 and I think I need about 9cu ft to fill up my grow box but I still have my last years soil mix the soil is called 215 mixed soil and it's really dry and it is not that good but I did get my plants about 5 feet tall and 5 feet wide so I'll just mix it with the kellogg patio plus. So adding ocean forest to it just another waste of money?

Not at all. Some people swear by certain products and I haven't used O.F. at all so I can't speak to that. But you can get away with using K.P.P. @ $6/bag. It's got the same shit in it for the most part and whatever is missing you can add yourself for a nice savings.

Here is DirrtyD's soil mix and grow. It's where I picked up on K.P.P

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/484982-dirrtyds-2012-organic-soil-mix.html

So here is my soil mix this has produced for me the only thing I will be adding is Age Old Organics as a Veg and a Bloom supplement.

1.5 CU Ft of Kellogg's patio plus
1 cup of fishbone meal brand Down to Earth
1/2 cup of Iron- Sulfur brand FST
1/2 cup of Kelp meal brand Down to Earth
1 cup of Alfalfa meal brand Down to Earth
1 cup of Greensand brand EB Stone
1 cup of Dolomite Lime brand EB Stone
1 cup of Oyster Shells brand Down to Earth
1 cup Seabird Guano brand Sun
1 cup of Humic Acids brand Down to Earth
1/4 cup of Azomite brand Down to Earth
1/2 cup of Crab meal brand Down to Earth
1/2 cup of Neem seed meal brand Down to Earth
10lbs of worm castings my worm farm
2 liters of perlite
1/2 cup of gypsum
All thoughts welcome on this mix for those in the Bay most can be purchased at A shop on University in Berkeley. I will also add Mycos at transplant. Dont be shy
dirrtyd

 

[AKDOGG]

That's a lot of mix for me to do. Would my mix be good I just want to add more perlite ,worm casting some guano and maybe some bone meal. So you just followdirrtyd's mix?

 

[angryblackman]

You can add subtract whatever you like and see what works for you. You will need something for flowering anyways. Because I had been watching his threads I followed his mix for some of my plants and was able to go about 2-3 weeks into flower before I needed anything else.

 

[AKDOGG]

I'll be using my flowering nutes when it starts to flower. And I'll see what other amends I can get to mix with the patio plush soil.

 

[angryblackman]

Cool let us know what you find out and be sure to check out the following peoples threads present and past.

DirrtyD
veggiegardener
wheezer
Hodgegrown
Uncle Buck
mwooten
Budologist420
RollitupMikey(gonna destroy this season)
757growin
getawaymountain

There are many more which you will see if you search out these threads. There is a absolute wealth of info in all of these guys threads!