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Rare D MI

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My bad. I thought you were him. lol in that case, your screen name cost him a transaction last night. Either way it seems like everything that comes out of your mouth is in the worse way possible. Maybe it's time for a little reflection on how to treat people.
Yeah man, cause I speak the truth, and the truth isn't always rainbows and smiley faces. Your loss on not picking up a pack of RD beans, maybe you will wanna come get them straight from me in Ann Arbor instead when i open up my shop next month so you can tell me how much of a dick I am in person.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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You said that there is very little to change the way plants grow naturally and that's bullshit.
Then you flip to genetic predisposition?
No one was talking about trying to change genetics. Just you as a distraction for being wrong.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Yeah man, cause I speak the truth, and the truth isn't always rainbows and smiley faces. Your loss on not picking up a pack of RD beans, maybe you will wanna come get them straight from me in Ann Arbor instead when i open up my shop next month so you can tell me how much of a dick I am in person.
I would fucking love to homie. And before you decide that you really want to take that route you better really think about it. Michigan is not that far.
 

Rare D MI

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Well you won't be seeing me if you aren't a Michigan card holder. Thought you were a MI patient or caregiver. And that wasn't a threat to you. That was an offer for you to not get ripped off by a Seedbank, pay shipping and wait for weeks to get your beans.

Go troll another forum if you aren't in Michigan. Or move to Michigan and join the fight.
 

Rare D MI

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You said that there is very little to change the way plants grow naturally and that's bullshit.
Then you flip to genetic predisposition?
No one was talking about trying to change genetics. Just you as a distraction for being wrong.

Plants are genetically predisposed to grow a certain way naturally. ​what do you not understand?
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Well you won't be seeing me if you aren't a Michigan card holder. Thought you were a MI patient or caregiver. And that wasn't a threat to you. That was an offer for you to not get ripped off by a Seedbank, pay shipping and wait for weeks to get your beans.

Go troll another forum if you aren't in Michigan. Or move to Michigan and join the fight.
STFU. I'm from CO so i've fought for the shit, trust me. I find it very interesting that you are repping beans and opening a shop when you are so morally inclined to just give cannabis away. Oh right, you need to pay your bills too huh?
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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Plants are genetically predisposed to grow a certain way naturally. ​what do you not understand?
Right, which CAN BE MANIPULATED TO SUITE YOUR NEEDS. Not genetically, but physically. What do you not understand? You were acting like a cocky prick and you are wrong for doing so.
 

Rare D MI

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Yes, i give cannabis to my patients for free, because I can afford to do so. It is free to me. Providing access to genetics for caregivers and patients is completely different. I'm not opening a dispensary. No meds will be sold at my shop.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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I agree with you that on your first grow you should simplify your technique in order to understand it's natural growth. But at the same time, this website is used to be able to share cultivation techniques and help people out so that they don't necessarily need to take the baby steps that some did. rather defoliating is a positive or not is debatable, but you don't need to just drop in acting like an asshole. Present your opinion. Present why. Present facts. Don't be a fucking asshole for no reason. It doesn't help anyone!
 

Rare D MI

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Right, which CAN BE MANIPULATED TO SUITE YOUR NEEDS. Not genetically, but physically. What do you not understand? You were acting like a cocky prick and you are wrong for doing so.
Manipulating it is changing it to suit your needs, not changing your plant. And my whole point with that was that you need to first grow the plant without manipulating it in order to know the plant.

I love that you're defending a grower that defoliated a plant in veg during his first grow ever. Great manipulation... Didn't even apply the technique properly.
 

Rare D MI

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Yeah dude, have you noticed that every defoliation thread gets locked, deleted and turns into a shit show on every forum?? Certain information in dangerous in the wrong hands. I'm trying to prevent new growers from implementing this very advanced technique that is being pushed by very experienced growers in specific situations, into their small personal grows with little knowledge of the process. I got a lot of shit in the original spurr thread on ICmag too, but I stand by it. Defoliation is bunk for the masses. Too dangerous and illogical in most situations.
 

slumdog80

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In no way does this post have anything to with the arguing going on:

I defoliate all fans starting at the end of week 5, and notice stunting for two to three day's after, strain and pheno dependent.
In a SOG setup it is almost a necessity for fitting 60 into a 3x6 coco bed, and not having to lollie pop is more important to me then
reduced growth for three days. I agree fans are important for a number of reasons and taking them definitely reduces growth for a
period of time but, if your feed schedule is on point and you garden is pest free, the difference is not as great as you would think in
most cases. Certainly not worth arguing over.
 

automated

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Those are environmental changes mostly. I am talking about improving upon the way each plant grows naturally. You need to grow them all the way and understand how they grow. Then you can manipulate their environment to possibly bring out the best representation of the genetics. And no plants grow "better" training or topping them, they just grow more suited to your needs. None of what you listed will improve upon the plant's genetic predisposition.ou grow

A base point should be gathered not only on your first grow, but on the first grow of every strain you run. How do you know how to even attempt to manipulate if you don't know how the plant grows?
So, how many strains did you fully grow without any of the things I listed ? (no artificial lights, nutes, pest control eetc etc etc)

Because, ALL those elements have a bit of natures way in them, and they are getting manipulated to increase performance in the given situations.

And I believe these threads get locked by hot heads contributing their ignorance loudly and rude while trying to do some below the belt jabs while their at it.
I'm sorry man, but seriously, so many people have a narrow minded view on many things relating to growing cannabis.

I suggest you do some reading up ondefoliage in general, not just for canabis, you'd be surprised how much it gets applied.

Just because some people got stuck in their old ways and failed or never even tried, doesnt mean the rest who did manage it are wrong.
 

Rare D MI

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I don't understand why it's okay for you to market one part of the plant and have such a big problem with selling the other?
I have no problem with anyone selling cannabis, I feel like caregivers should provide the patients they grow for some free medicine in exchange for the right to grow their 12 plants and possess another 2.5 oz of medicine legally in MI.

It's the difference between giving someone a fish and teaching them to fish man. Anyone can give someone some meds, not everyone can provide them with the resource to grow their own superior medicine.
 

Scrotie Mcboogerballs

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In no way does this post have anything to with the arguing going on:

I defoliate all fans starting at the end of week 5, and notice stunting for two to three day's after, strain and pheno dependent.
In a SOG setup it is almost a necessity for fitting 60 into a 3x6 coco bed, and not having to lollie pop is more important to me then
reduced growth for three days. I agree fans are important for a number of reasons and taking them definitely reduces growth for a
period of time but, if your feed schedule is on point and you garden is pest free, the difference is not as great as you would think in
most cases. Certainly not worth arguing over.
Yeah sorry, this thread kind of got highjacked but I can't really start a Rare D is a tool thread either. :/
 

Rare D MI

New Member
In no way does this post have anything to with the arguing going on:

I defoliate all fans starting at the end of week 5, and notice stunting for two to three day's after, strain and pheno dependent.
In a SOG setup it is almost a necessity for fitting 60 into a 3x6 coco bed, and not having to lollie pop is more important to me then
reduced growth for three days. I agree fans are important for a number of reasons and taking them definitely reduces growth for a
period of time but, if your feed schedule is on point and you garden is pest free, the difference is not as great as you would think in
most cases. Certainly not worth arguing over.
Exactly, for specific situations, with proven plants, by a grower who knows what they're doing. For every person like you, there are 20 new growers defoliating through veg and wondering why it didn't increase their yield.
 
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