More spying on the press by the Obama administration

UncleBuck

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Sure, you got the numbers for the Bush wars compared to the stimulus and QE3? You are going to look stupid if you really want to do this one.

So you ARE counting the stimulus under Bush, that's not very honest of you, tsk tsk.

How about projected spending for the rest of term? Are ANY of the coming years LESS than ANY year under Bush. You made the claim that he cut 800B from Bush's deficit. Back up your claim, I have the PDF open right now, took me a minute. You need the link?
please name the piece of legislation that obama signed authorizing QE3.
 

ginwilly

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Damnit, I left you an out for actually answering the question and exposing yourself for the idiocy of your claims.

No, QE3 was the only bullet left in the keynesian play book since we've created a liquidity trap. Obama would pass a big fancy stimulus again if he actually believed the first one worked and wouldn't get his ass handed to him again in another mid-term.

You don't have to admit you are full of shit about Obama's budget. Your lack of answers speaks volumes.

Notice you asked me a question and I answered it directly. That's how adults have conversions and debates.
 

ginwilly

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"Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media." ~Noam Chomsky
While our media is not exactly the fourth estate it is supposed to be I'll take our press over the press in any country run by any dictator. Chomsky is an idiot. You think the Kim Juns would allow a FOX and MSNBC? How bout Brietbart and MoveOn?

But hey, it's a Chomper quote, I'll post it up here without really understanding it and people might think I'm smart or edgy. What an idiotic thing to say.

The only time the press is uniform is when a celebrity does something that fascinates people. Have you heard Angie cut her boobs off?

Has Chomsky ever even heard of Watergate? How this guy makes a living is proof how gullible some of our younger generation is.
 

abandonconflict

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While our media is not exactly the fourth estate it is supposed to be I'll take our press over the press in any country run by any dictator. Chomsky is an idiot. You think the Kim Juns would allow a FOX and MSNBC? How bout Brietbart and MoveOn?

But hey, it's a Chomper quote, I'll post it up here without really understanding it and people might think I'm smart or edgy. What an idiotic thing to say.

The only time the press is uniform is when a celebrity does something that fascinates people. Have you heard Angie cut her boobs off?

Has Chomsky ever even heard of Watergate? How this guy makes a living is proof how gullible some of our younger generation is.
You just keep telling yourself that there are only two options for every issue.
 

ginwilly

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You just keep telling yourself that there are only two options for every issue.
Chomsky has tried for decades to be the Rush Limbaugh of the left while whoring himself to any talk show that can stomach him. He pushed for the fairness doctrine because he feels the lack of this is why nobody but the most gullible will listen to him.

I've left remarks about your hero out of the conversation because you have supplied more than enough material without him. But the man you worship and quote his idiocy tried to have laws changed because he feels the lack of the Fairness Doctrine is what's keeping him from being a mega-star. He'll piss and moan about the Limbaughs of the world, because they have a platform and he doesn't and are making all of the money he should be making. He's a fucking hypocrite on the scale of Michael Moore.

Back up his quote. How is our press here more uniform and obedient than the Korean Central News? I'm throwing down the gauntlet for you to one time back up your shit. Just once. This is just one easy quote from one of your masters, surely you can prove his claim or at the very least show a country who has a more free press than ours.

His quote is ANY dictator, I challenge you to produce even ONE that would trade our free press for theirs. Any would mean all of them, his quote is so off is actually the opposite of true. NO dictator would trade.
 

ginwilly

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When you avoid another question with another quote that has nothing to with what we are talking about I will proceed in kind.
 

abandonconflict

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When you avoid another question with another quote that has nothing to with what we are talking about I will proceed in kind.
That wasn't a quote. I was pointing out that you love false dichotomies, which is why you think your politics are really different from UncleBuck's.
 

abandonconflict

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"Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while maintaining privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists." ~Noam Chomsky
 

ginwilly

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did they also nail that $1.5 trillion dollar structural deficit that bush left office with?

don't worry, baby. we'll fix your fiscal nonsense for ya, just like we always do.
Did you edit out the question I asked about what happened after 2005 to change those projections? Here, I'll ask it again. Why were the CBOs numbers so off? was there an election we can point to?
 

ginwilly

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Limbaugh is a capitalist pig, at least he's consistent with his ideology.

Anarchists: Pay to hear Chomsky speak on the evils of capitalism in a private auditorium, buy his latest copy-write intellectual property describing the evils of capitalism on the way out. Never see the irony.
 
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