Holy Grail Kush: Real Deal or Bullshit Hype

burgertime2010

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Looks like you got these two pegged quite well. Beautiful specimens, they look so youthfully clean and green. In relation to your story, I have found it of great value to reduce nutrient useage. Any finishing plan??
 

Green Gun

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Looks like you got these two pegged quite well. Beautiful specimens, they look so youthfully clean and green. In relation to your story, I have found it of great value to reduce nutrient useage. Any finishing plan??
From research, I believe most Kush's fall between 60-70 day flower time. The trichomes will be my ultimate decider. At the end, I plan on a 2 week flush with the last 3 days in total darkness. I use GH 3 part. Right now I am running around 75% strength of what GH recommends.
 

burgertime2010

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From research, I believe most Kush's fall between 60-70 day flower time. The trichomes will be my ultimate decider. At the end, I plan on a 2 week flush with the last 3 days in total darkness. I use GH 3 part. Right now I am running around 75% strength of what GH recommends.
Last time I cut at 70 but started earlier with the colas ...it was ready by 63 but I had nothing waiting behind them. I needed to increase light penetration and all those little buds got hit with a lot of additional light. Research Shooting Powder for finishing.....my kush loves it!!!
 

Green Gun

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Last time I cut at 70 but started earlier with the colas ...it was ready by 63 but I had nothing waiting behind them. I needed to increase light penetration and all those little buds got hit with a lot of additional light. Research Shooting Powder for finishing.....my kush loves it!!!
That is an EXCELLENT tip. Take the top colas and give the little guys another day or two. I would have to forgo my "last 3 days in darkness" if I split up the harvest like that though..
 

burgertime2010

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That is an EXCELLENT tip. Take the top colas and give the little guys another day or two. I would have to forgo my "last 3 days in darkness" if I split up the harvest like that though..
That 3 days in darkness thing, I have tried and usually do anyway cause of time I spend trimming, but taking off those top buds was good for multiple reasons. First, light penetration. Second, it shocked the plants and increased trichome production. Third, the amount of viable bud was far greater and denser overall. I estimate that the increase in bottom maturity was of far greater benefit than 3 dark days. Chop the tops....lower lights......wait a week......chop the bottoms. I think you will be better off.
 

HGK420

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i vote around 65 days give or take a few depending on your schedule. i took 4 of mine (all different seeds, so different finish times technically) between 60 days and 70 days and all were pretty well good to go.

Id start scopin the trichs around 8 weeks and take it from there. if your lucky she sill be about ready!
 

burgertime2010

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That 3 days in darkness thing, I have tried and usually do anyway cause of time I spend trimming, but taking off those top buds was good for multiple reasons. First, light penetration. Second, it shocked the plants and increased trichome production. Third, the amount of viable bud was far greater and denser overall. I estimate that the increase in bottom maturity was of far greater benefit than 3 dark days. Chop the tops....lower lights......wait a week......chop the bottoms. I think you will be better off.
Regardless, the tops mature prior to the rest of the plant especially in tall, dense canopy scenarios. I had no way to get to it all at once....so this stepped system was born of pragmatism and ridiculous jungle overgrowth that wouldnt be contained until it was too late. I wish you the best and am gonna re-read your story. Pretty flowers.
 

burgertime2010

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This is a new question of mine. I thought about getting some kosher but would I be wasting my money since I already have hgk. Are they similar or is one more potent than the other. Inquiring minds want to know.
HGK is a cross between Kosher and #18. Nice guess.....close.
 

burgertime2010

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That is an EXCELLENT tip. Take the top colas and give the little guys another day or two. I would have to forgo my "last 3 days in darkness" if I split up the harvest like that though..
I have a quick question. On the girls I was going to flip soon I noticed a progressive yellowing, in the past spotting and signs of deficiency. What PPM do you begin flowering? and nutrient-related issues?
 

Green Gun

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i vote around 65 days give or take a few depending on your schedule. i took 4 of mine (all different seeds, so different finish times technically) between 60 days and 70 days and all were pretty well good to go.

Id start scopin the trichs around 8 weeks and take it from there. if your lucky she sill be about ready!
I might try to harvest the tops around day 63 and the rest on day 70... Right now trichs are clear.

I have a quick question. On the girls I was going to flip soon I noticed a progressive yellowing, in the past spotting and signs of deficiency. What PPM do you begin flowering? and nutrient-related issues?
I actually stopped taking ppm readings a while back. Instead, I started letting the plants tell me if I make the soup too strong. I find this out earlier by looking at the lower indicator leaves and if they are getting burnt. Right now I've found a sweet spot with my nutes that all three phenos seem to react very well to. My hope is that this formula will work with most any pheno I try. I also believe the 100% perlite medium allows maximum rootage as well while the roots stay nice and clean.


edit-
Here are a couple earlier video updates. They show the OGK/HGK/Liberty Haze Mothers -> clones -> plants. First vid also shows my first plant ever: Auto Cheese. And did kief run:hump:

Update March 23 2013

Update April 11 2013
 

KushKrew

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I ALWAYS get cinfused between the Kosher Kush and the Holy Grail... I think the former is the one I've actually toked and it was DANK.
 

HGK420

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apparently mine have been spending too much time hangin out with the castor beans...



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HGK420

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To expand on kindnugs post.

I doubt your ever gonna find A direct copy of either but who's to say what og18 and kosher kush exactly is. Holy grail is a great mixture of the 2. I got an absolute winner pheno out of 1 pack (extremely lucky) Its a good blend of the 2. og18 and kosher kush arnt very unrelated they have a lot of the same traits to begin with so the variation in these beens will probably be minimal. out of 5 i got 5 that were very close with 1 just out yielding BY A TON and it seemed to hold its smell/flavor a lot more through the drying/curing process. If I'm not really thinking when i puff I've had the thought.... "is this OG18?" or "DAMN this taste just like that kosher i had!" Its a really AMAZING strain if your a fan of og18 or kosher.

Think of it like this. If SHAQ and Alyssa Dehaan from MSU were to have kids. Some would be more white some would be more black but most are gonna be a mix in between. Some females are gonna look just like SHAQ and some Males are gonna look just like Alyssa. MOST are gonna be tall and probably won't be able to shoot free throws. Your not gonna find exact copies of Alyssa or SHAQ in the mix but you might find some very close copies if they are raised in a similar manner.

Breeding is like painting with water balloons. You gotta get REALLY lucky to paint the mona lisa but its possible. If you go into the painting without trying to "Find" the mona lisa who knows what beauty the water balloons will come up with! :clap: and if you really wanna paint that mona lisa you better get a shitload of canvas/paint/balloons (aka seeds) And start practicing!
 

Scroga

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To expand on kindnugs post.

I doubt your ever gonna find A direct copy of either but who's to say what og18 and kosher kush exactly is. Holy grail is a great mixture of the 2. I got an absolute winner pheno out of 1 pack (extremely lucky) Its a good blend of the 2. og18 and kosher kush arnt very unrelated they have a lot of the same traits to begin with so the variation in these beens will probably be minimal. out of 5 i got 5 that were very close with 1 just out yielding BY A TON and it seemed to hold its smell/flavor a lot more through the drying/curing process. If I'm not really thinking when i puff I've had the thought.... "is this OG18?" or "DAMN this taste just like that kosher i had!" Its a really AMAZING strain if your a fan of og18 or kosher.

Think of it like this. If SHAQ and Alyssa Dehaan from MSU were to have kids. Some would be more white some would be more black but most are gonna be a mix in between. Some females are gonna look just like SHAQ and some Males are gonna look just like Alyssa. MOST are gonna be tall and probably won't be able to shoot free throws. Your not gonna find exact copies of Alyssa or SHAQ in the mix but you might find some very close copies if they are raised in a similar manner.

Breeding is like painting with water balloons. You gotta get REALLY lucky to paint the mona lisa but its possible. If you go into the painting without trying to "Find" the mona lisa who knows what beauty the water balloons will come up with! :clap: and if you really wanna paint that mona lisa you better get a shitload of canvas/paint/balloons (aka seeds) And start practicing!
Wow! What a great reply! Can't explain it much better than that I don't think...thanks for the visuals lol!
 

HGK420

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Np! This is a great strain! Its easy to be passionate about. i actually grow og18 too and plan on keeping it. im also actively trying to get a certain cut of kosher kush its just so good. This branch of the Bud Genome is one of my favorites ive found so far and i wanna collect every cousin! As close as they are they all have their own buzz. i finds OG18 high in anxiety and thinking. if i have a problem to fix it will Allow me to obsess and see every angle. it makes me so worried about stuff i make sure i finish taking care of it too (handy for a stoner that likes to start 17 things a day normally) Keeps me off the video games or from being lazy as well cause it will for real make me dwell on bills and issues until i get up and do something about it. not good for when you wanna relax but i dont always have that luxury!

Kosher is a great creative buzz. Its very heady with a warm relaxation to it. I enjoy kosher when i gotta work on videos or music. Holy grail is a good mix of both the anxiety is still there but much lower. say i wanted to play Call of duty and be Alert and slightly paranoid Holy grail is the one. I catch myself laughing and smiling alot too with holy grail.

I love em!
 
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