Time to reject the Malthusian notion that our lives must be justified by drudgery.

[echelon1k1]

Well, we have been sold a bill of goods about Arabs because of Jew bashing by the Catholic Church for 2000 years. Arabs good. Jews bad.

Arabs were so smart they invented the Zero.
They invented technical Astronomy
Arabs invented Chess

This is what i was taught. All Lies to put the Jew further down. All of that invention comes from India. The Arabs and the entire Muslim world put the women in burkka and excluded 1/2 their brain pool. The better 1/2. Then they tell themselves they must regain these past heights. But, those they stole from the Hindus.

So, it is no wonder that misogynistic culture can't prevail in the modern world except through violence. Too stupid and afraid of women. Arabs are still slavers throughout Africa. Arabs sold the slaves to the West in the first place.

You do realise most if not all organized religion is misogynistic it is not limited to radical interpretations of Islam. Note – Radical Interpretations...

You show me any group of people with a shared belief and I guarantee you at least 10% will hold a view outside of the group’s mainstream that any keen observer would consider extreme and/or radical.

But please continue with your state of in-security and BOLO for any Muslim who could potentially be hiding in your can of soft drink or bowl of food.

You should put your hand up as the “New McCarthy”...

 

[Doer]

Hey, you are not following along. I keep saying this has nothing to do with one religion or another. I never even mention that word, Muslim. You just spew diatribe that has nothing to do with what I've pointed out. I get it. You hate America. And for you, most Americans hate Islam.

Stupid. You try to debate by shoving words in my points, so you too are apologizing for Hamas and the continuation of antisemitism, the mother of all anti-racial views. NOT Religion. Jihad is the struggle to end the secular life and return to Sharia rule. Not religious freedom. Listen up.

I hate all religions equally as I said. The US didn't start this. We ended a big genocide of Jews. But, it took hold in Holy Land, during WW2. I said the Catholic Church is responsible for the Jew hatred. All religions are hateful of women and intolerant. I said that.

So you troll. And a stupid one, at best.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Doer,

The Mayans developed the first complete definition of zero over a hundred years before the hindu.

Also, it was the Europeans who invented chess. Neither the earlier hindu nor later arab versions were anything like what we think of as chess.

The only thing arabs invented was the globalization of African slavery.

 

[abandonconflict]

I'm just going to bump this. Here I am pointing out the philosophical underpinnings of (incorrect views on population and evolution) capitalism. Here, Canna Sylvan, Doer and Cannabineer vigorously defend it, because they are white American men and life is good for them. Doer can only argue by distorting my arguments and he does this consistently through out the thread.

Here you can find him praising the correctness of Ayn Rand's views Cannabineer.

 

[abandonconflict]

Nice try. blogger. You won't silence me that way. You have discovered a concept, but it is made up. That's all. It doesn't matter if we accept or reject. Like Satan.

 

[abandonconflict]

 

[cannabineer]

I'm just going to bump this. Here I am pointing out the philosophical underpinnings of (incorrect views on population and evolution) capitalism. Here, Canna Sylvan, Doer and Cannabineer vigorously defend it, because they are white American men and life is good for them. Doer can only argue by distorting my arguments and he does this consistently through out the thread.

Here you can find him praising the correctness of Ayn Rand's views Cannabineer.

To the bolded: orly?
Also, what you consider (or "decipher" as) capitalism and what each individual other one of us does might not align. Lately you've shown an exasperating tendency to fit pegs of all shapes into a hole you've mortised to suit you.

No post number referenced = unsupported claim. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

To the bolded: orly?
Also, what you consider (or "decipher" as) capitalism and what each individual other one of us does might not align. Lately you've shown an exasperating tendency to fit pegs of all shapes into a hole you've mortised to suit you.

No post number referenced = unsupported claim. cn

It doesn't really matter, the whole thread attests.

Pro-tip: The concrete never sets, things never stay the same.

 

[cannabineer]

It doesn't really matter, the whole thread attests.

Pro-tip: The concrete never sets, things never stay the same.

No and again, because I doubt you were really listening:
No.
If he didn't say it directly, you're probably "deciphering" again, which has you attributing things people NEVER said to them. The dishonesty and arrogance is twofold:
it dishonors the speaker, and it presumes that the act of deciphering doesn't destroy information that was perhaps too subtle or unfamiliar (or perhaps distasteful) for you to recognize.

i will say this with your welfare in mind, because that sort of thing will one day lead to your receiving a physical and not just intellectual asswhuppin'. i wish to spare you that.

Stop "deciphering". Stop pigeonholing people into holes you've either carpentered or accepted finished from your favorite Garden Noam. The world is too big a place to be contained in any one person's philosophy, ebven if that person is legitimately brilliant.

Abandon, please abandon some of your lalalalaaaI'mnotlistening ways. It offends some good people; I've witnessed it. And as you gain [at least the convincing appearance of] humility, you'll find yourself being listened to more seriously, and maybe even heard. You MUST shed the arrogance that leads you to actually let the sort of (word) fall out of your mouth e.g. you're here to challenge people in their lies. A very old and only patchily wise book got it on the button when it warned about the splinter/beam effect.

I wonder if this will do any good at all. You are one of the stubbornest and most exasperatingly cocksure young gits on this board, for all your articulation and eloquence. Please take notice. Jmo.

And, since I think it might be needed:
No. cn

 

[Doer]

Please no. No please. Stop messing with us ABC. It ain't cool.

 

[abandonconflict]

No and again, because I doubt you were really listening:
dishonesty and arrogance
Stop pigeonholing people into holes you've either carpentered or accepted finished from your favorite Garden Noam. The world is too big a place to be contained in any one person's philosophy, ebven if that person is legitimately brilliant.

Abandon, please abandon some of your lalalalaaaI'mnotlistening ways. It offends some good people; I've witnessed it. And as you gain [at least the convincing appearance of] humility, you'll find yourself being listened to more seriously, and maybe even heard. You MUST shed the arrogance that leads you to actually let the sort of (word) fall out of your mouth e.g. you're here to challenge people in their lies. A very old and only patchily wise book got it on the button when it warned about the splinter/beam effect.

I wonder if this will do any good at all.

How many months did I have to spend explaining that I'm not a Marxist Cannabineer?

How many of my threads of high effort arguments were derailed by the same people saying "hey that sounds Bolshevism"...?

Now you want to make it look like you're pleading with me to be humble, when I have done so much pleading with you to stop being so pessimistic. Do you think I am incapable of humility? Do you think I am incapable of self deprecation? Do you think I lack life experience to identify the ignorance which causes strife?

Do you think Lenin was a Socialist?

 

[cannabineer]

How many months did I have to spend explaining that I'm not a Marxist Cannabineer?

How many of my threads of high effort arguments were derailed by the same people saying "hey that sounds Bolshevism"...?

Now you want to make it look like you're pleading with me to be humble, when I have done so much pleading with you to stop being so pessimistic. Do you think I am incapable of humility? Do you think I am incapable of self deprecation? Do you think I lack life experience to identify the ignorance which causes strife?

Do you think Lenin was a Socialist?

To the bolded: I am coming to that conclusion.

As to the rest of it, you tend to set semantic traps for others but then don't define your own when asked. It's a rigged game, and I'm tired. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

"Since 1930 I had seen little evidence that the USSR was progressing towards anything that one could truly call Socialism. On the contrary, I was struck by clear signs of its transformation into a hierarchical society, in which the rulers have no more reason to give up their power than any other ruling class" ~Orwell, snip from preface to Ukrainian version of Animal Farm

How many times did I have to repeat to you that Prisoner's Dilemma overwhelmingly supports mutual aid?

Declaring is not arguing.

I'm not so soft skinned as you think, I'm just sick of the same people (including yourself) who retort to arguments with bullshit. I can't make an assertion with out the subject being changed to criticism of my views. Then you start talking about fantasy bullshit like 900 years from now we'll be mining the Oort Cloud. So next time you criticize Noam Chomsky as a retort to my arguments about Malthus or Mutual aid or Doer's inherent philosophical bigotry, I'll remind you that you're a utopian.

Do you know why I don't criticize UB?

His personal goal in life is to sport bigots and ass holes and selfish twats and berate them. He is honest and charitable and true to his philosophy. I know I can't change his mind and he knows he can't change mine. He has never once criticized me as a utopian when I made an argument designed to point out the philosophical inherent racism in the world views of so many people. You do. Everytime.

Then you rush to the "impasse" that we are just opposites.

 

[cannabineer]

"Since 1930 I had seen little evidence that the USSR was progressing towards anything that one could truly call Socialism. On the contrary, I was struck by clear signs of its transformation into a hierarchical society, in which the rulers have no more reason to give up their power than any other ruling class" ~Orwell, snip from preface to Ukrainian version of Animal Farm

How many times did I have to repeat to you that Prisoner's Dilemma overwhelmingly supports mutual aid?

Declaring is not arguing.

I'm not so soft skinned as you think, I'm just sick of the same people (including yourself) who retort to arguments with bullshit. I can't make an assertion with out the subject being changed to criticism of my views. Then you start talking about fantasy bullshit like 900 years from now we'll be mining the Oort Cloud. So next time you criticize Noam Chomsky as a retort to my arguments about Malthus or Mutual aid or Doer's inherent philosophical bigotry, I'll remind you that you're a utopian.

Do you know why I don't criticize UB?

His personal goal in life is to sport bigots and ass holes and selfish twats and berate them. He is honest and charitable and true to his philosophy. I know I can't change his mind and he knows he can't change mine. He has never once criticized me as a utopian when I made an argument designed to point out the philosophical inherent racism in the world views of so many people. You do. Everytime.

Then you rush to the "impasse" that we are just opposites.

1) No true Scotsman.
2) To do so, you had to reset to your Prisoner's Dilemma every single time. Don't move the goalposts.
3) there it is ... the word might be "arrant" ... errant amalgamated with arrogant. Jmo, naturally.

As for Noam, I think he is brilliant but i don't buy what he is selling. You quote him as though he were definitive. The world is bigger than that, even without the Kuiper belt (get the details right, young man).

We have a different perspective on what UB does and why.

You project intransigence, and I'm tired. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

1) No true Scotsman.
2) To do so, you had to reset to your Prisoner's Dilemma every single time. Don't move the goalposts.
3) there it is ... the word might be "arrant" ... errant amalgamated with arrogant. Jmo, naturally.

As for Noam, I think he is brilliant but i don't buy what he is selling. You quote him as though he were definitive. The world is bigger than that, even without the Kuiper belt (get the details right, young man).

We have a different perspective on what UB does and why.

You project intransigence, and I'm tired. cn

You project venerability upon yourself in hopes of being perceived wiser than myself. You are indeed tired, as is your interpretation of Nash game theory, particularly Prisoner's Dilemma.

Don't call me "young man" it is disrespectful and I am not your philosophical junior. I am calling your entire world view flawed and based on the momentum of an old aeon.

I know that if I ever face you in any NASH game, I can not ever expect that you will care about my well being. I regret that.

 

[Doer]

I'm tired...and I'm tired...and...

 

[cannabineer]

You project venerability upon yourself in hopes of being perceived wiser than myself. You are indeed tired, as is your interpretation of Nash game theory, particularly Prisoner's Dilemma.

Don't call me "young man" it is disrespectful and I am not your philosophical junior. I am calling your entire world view flawed and based on the momentum of an old aeon.

I know that if I ever face you in any NASH game, I can not ever expect that you will care about my well being. I regret that.

To the bolded: ~slap!~
That is for having the sheer nerve to say that after "deciphering" my posts about the nuclear part of WWII to suggest that I felt the Japanese deserved it.
I wanted to spare you from the asswhuppin' that will be in your future, and you just lost that. You're on your own.

To the italicized: that is not how I feel. I was making a point about [with age and experience different from your own I have learned about] the boundaries of human nature and not about mine. That you conflate the two, and then maljudge me on that logically untenable conflation, suggests that while I have no real way of knowing if you are my philosophical junior, you are certainly mine when it comes to logic and rigor. And calling you "young man" isn't an insult, but an observation. One day you might conceivably learn these things, but not from me. Goodness but do you have a way of offending people. That is an observation. It is my prediction that if it hasn't already, that will cost you otherwise good and valuable friends and allies. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

To the bolded: ~slap!~
That is for having the sheer nerve to say that after "deciphering" my posts about the nuclear part of WWII to suggest that I felt the Japanese deserved it.
I wanted to spare you from the asswhuppin' that will be in your future, and you just lost that. You're on your own.

To the italicized: that is not how I feel. I was making a=point about the boundaries of human nature and not about mine. That you conflate the two suggests that while I have no way of knowing if you are my philosophical junior, you are certainly mine when it comes to logic and rigor. And calling you "young man" isn't an insult, but an observation. One day you might conceivably learn these things, but not from me. Goodness but do you have a way of offending people. That is an observation. It is my prediction that if it hasn't already, that will cost you otherwise good and valuable friends and allies. cn

The observations are based on set concrete and this slab is scheduled for demolition.

You say one day I'll learn, at least i am capable of learning. Your warnings of my future ass whoopin assumes my ass can't take it, but you're not taking this ass whoopin very well.

 

[cannabineer]

The observations are based on set concrete and this slab is scheduled for demolition.

You say one day I'll learn, at least i am capable of learning. Your warnings of my future ass whoopin assumes my ass can't take it, but you're not taking this ass whoopin very well.

You're not even reaching my ass. To do so, you'd first have to proceed within the boundaries of reasoned discourse. You seem to spurn the effort that requires. I'll make it easier; here. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

within the boundaries of reasoned discourse

You have to stop thinking inside the box.