Kite High
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freezing of the plant material and cold solvent will address the chlorophyll leaching...but bho is better still IMO
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Kite High
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wrong wrong wrong...they use iso because they are worried about profit...As it surely is not for quality as the oils I have tried from dispensaries sux by comparison...and too cheap to acquire the proper equipment which will reduce the cost to lower than iso...recapturing the solvent for reuse...but being all about the $ they will not look at it because of upfront cost...this statement does not give ant merit to your argumentQWISO is far from complicated to make and my personal opinion is the taste is hardly affected by the presence of chlorophyll in the final product. I dunno what peoples' obsession is with having PERFECT amber honey oil but jonny is a simple person and QWISO is SUPER cheap, SUPER effective, and SUPER quick. One only needs to search youtube for all the many different processes that people go through to refine their QWISO.
If you like spending $100 in butane and scraping back and forth with a pick for hours in a pyrex dish trying to get bubbles of butane out of your shit, and then spending another couple hours properly purging your shit...then by all means, roll on.
I'm done with my QWISO extraction in less than 10 minutes. If you're one of those impatient little fucks that can't wait for shit to evaporate with 99% ISO for a single fucking day...keep using your shitty overpriced butane. The hippies knew what they were doing 30 years ago with ISO and butane has NOT made the process any better. More expensive and dangerous, but not better.
For all the naysayers that will dispute my claims, TRY IT FIRST before you judge and then you are welcome to come back and grobble for forgiveness for the error of your ways
There's a reason dispensaries in Colorado and California medical dispensaries use ISO or Denatured Alcohol...it's better than butane.
this is my bho device
jonnynobody
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Me thinks you might be mentally disturbed but jonny is a forgiving compassionate individualwrong wrong wrong...they use iso because they are worried about profit...As it surely is not for quality as the oils I have tried from dispensaries sux by comparison...and too cheap to acquire the proper equipment which will reduce the cost to lower than iso...recapturing the solvent for reuse...but being all about the $ they will not look at it because of upfront cost...this statement does not give ant merit to your argument
this is my bho device
Keep smoking your overpriced BHO, friend...I've never heard of a profiteering hippy. Your definition of a hippy is apparently an oxymoron...back to the drawing board with you.
Kite High
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whatever you say self fluffed EinsteinMe thinks you might be mentally disturbed but jonny is a forgiving compassionate individual
Keep smoking your overpriced BHO, friend...I've never heard of a profiteering hippy. Your definition of a hippy is apparently an oxymoron...back to the drawing board with you.
and where did this hippy stuff come from...was a comment on your using CO dispensaries using iso vs butane as a strengthening to your ludicrous iso is better and bho costly argument
Why don't you switch to ethyl and just drink it and save your lungs while you're at it?
tomcatjones
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wrong wrong wrong...they use iso because they are worried about profit...As it surely is not for quality as the oils I have tried from dispensaries sux by comparison...and too cheap to acquire the proper equipment which will reduce the cost to lower than iso...recapturing the solvent for reuse...but being all about the $ they will not look at it because of upfront cost...this statement does not give ant merit to your argument
this is my bho device
iso and butane are different solvents one is polar one is non polar.
same material use both. more quanity of things you want.
bitches dont know about poles and then posts a picture of a shitty machine, tazmiuims suck..
getting geared up for the super critical co2 in a few weeks
and hexane isnt the best either that ive seen.
butane and iso both have their purposes.
Kite High
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yesI know all about polarities and recapturing the n butane is the purpose of the unitiso and butane are different solvents one is polar one is non polar.
same material use both. more quanity of things you want.
bitches dont know about poles and then posts a picture of a shitty machine, tazmiuims suck..
getting geared up for the super critical co2 in a few weeks
and hexane isnt the best either that ive seen.
butane and iso both have their purposes.
yes iso and ethyl alcohol are moderately polar hence why I do not care for it...do not want sugars starches and chlorophyll in my oil thank you...but if you like this then by all means use alcohols to your contentment....which is why I like n butane as it is non polar and only the cannabinoids oils terpenes and flavonoids are captured..and the cold temperature of the process doesn't obliterate the terpenes...also the added benefit is its extremely low boiling point which makes it extremely easy and quick to vapor off...as for long process to purge IDK where that comes from its not long at all...more misinfo
oh and the almighty critical co2 method...all the rave these days...I prefer true ether not petroleum ether extraction to the expensive and ridiculous critical co2...you have fun with that and go ahead and keep up with the jones while I am getting high NOW on my bho oil ...In the biochemistry sphere ether it is best of all...but my sucky tas and n-butane is easy, inexpensive easy to acquire and really potent...last batch tested 69% thc and 11% thcv....quite the trippy ride
Please do not assume you know the knowledge base of those you try to insult as you know what assuming does I am sure
and ps---your momma is a bitch...keep your insults to yourself
Dab710
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If tamisiums are such shitty machines,....why not build a superior product ?iso and butane are different solvents one is polar one is non polar.
same material use both. more quanity of things you want.
bitches dont know about poles and then posts a picture of a shitty machine, tazmiuims suck..
getting geared up for the super critical co2 in a few weeks
and hexane isnt the best either that ive seen.
butane and iso both have their purposes.
You'd make a million dollars, and wouldn't even have to type your own witty answers into the response field. You could have
hot chicks for that task. I'd much rather have some hot girl bending in front of me typing the response I tell her while she's winking at me from behind.
I'm sure Kite High knows about polarization unless the notes this unit came with got thrown away.
This unit comes with notes that address polarization, and the effects of using polarized & non-polarized solvents during extraction.
Your response puzzles and confuses me as you say tamisiums suck, but are super excited about a super critical co2 extraction.
Tamisiums cost 1/10 the price of a super critical machine, and don't use any high pressures or flames. It sure seems less dangerous.
I also don't have to import a tamisium from overseas as it is made in the usa.
Why do you feel one is superior method of extraction over the other ?
Please address the actual extraction question as both need to be purged after extraction.
Please try and speak above my head as if it gets messy I'll have one of my buddies over at Iron Labs or Cannalytics help me out with the latin.
Also, speaking of latin, It's spelled tamisium. It means to sieve.
I would never extract with any solvent that I see in the news everyday killing people that are around it too much on a day to day basis. Eg.-Hexane poisoning at computer plant
Kite High
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I know about polarities because of my chemistry minor in college...bio chemistry as well...I miss ether
HomeLessBeans
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search skunk pharm for a bigger and cheaper version... terpenator
cephalopod
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TomCatJones, wil youl keep us posted about your critical mass, maybe some pics? Do you own this unit as well or is it just some thing you have access too? I ask because I'm curious about the cost? It would be awesome to see some pics of the unit and processing off your product too. That is if you'd be as gracious to do so.
Kite High
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Too late I already have my tas and besides I don't wanna build anything...and 8 oz. at a time is plenty
Dab710
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so tomcatjones is GrayWolf ?
because that's who I was referring to in my post when I mentioned creating a superior machine.
I've been aware of the terpenator since the 1st prototype. They are still trying to perfect it's design from what I remember reading about it.
I also remember reading about them looking at the terpenator extracted oil under black light and finding that machine oil had somehow got through the bearings and found it's way into the extract.
I remember reading that you needed a machinist to make some of the parts required for it's assembly.
It really doesn't look too hard to put together, but not too simple either for the average idiot.
Once the terpenator is perfected and ready I still don't see there being a major difference in the cost dept. after factoring in the time & trouble in procuring the people and parts to build one.
You can vacuum right out of your tamisium now the same way you can with the terpenator.
That was the only major advantage I saw in their two different designs and prices.
The cost of either of these units will be paid for after a couple of extractions anyway.
Not understanding all the issues others are having with the cost of either unit.
cephalopod
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FadeDawg is GW and Finkel is Einhorn. Just drop in the concentates and extracts forum, good things happening daily.
tomcatjones
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GreyWolf is the resource that is for sure, we had him on the High Noon Radio show a couple times pover the weeks they discussed solvents, rso and bho, a lot of good info.
the super critical co2 machine is not mine, a friend of mine got offered to learn and operate one for the guy getting it, we are going to check it out and if we like it enough we'll get our own. a try before you buy..
the super critical co2 machine is not mine, a friend of mine got offered to learn and operate one for the guy getting it, we are going to check it out and if we like it enough we'll get our own. a try before you buy..
cephalopod
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That's deffinatley a nice thing to be able to test before springing on it.
slumdog80
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What is your average return on the tamisium?
tomcatjones
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on this note i wanted to bring this up, the guys I met in colorado, from Top Shelf Extracts don't even recapture their tane. they use n-butane and are letting it all gooo... but they also do lbs a day. hard to do is a tamisium or terpenator.
cephalopod
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Tamisium TE3000 1 kilo Capacity Production Model with Rapid Solvent Recovery System, Expanded Advanced High Wattage Silicone Heating System with 4 Heaters and 3 controllers, Sucker/Dryer Tank w/Clear and Stainless Lids all Assembled and Tested.
Now with sight glass and threaded drain plug and boosted wattage for faster extraction and recovery!
Now with sight glass and threaded drain plug and boosted wattage for faster extraction and recovery!