Oh Goodie! ... More on 911 (inside job) :)
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ZenMaster
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I gave my little explanation/analogy because I didn't feel the need to go into detail why I believe 9/11 wasn't an inside job. Due to the expected ignorant comments later posted I had to go into more detail. However its still the same, WTC and many other skyscrapers built like it, have all their AC units and other facilities at the very top of the building, so its by far top heavy. When the top has loses its support, not much is going to stop it from coming down. Thats its in a nutshell, would you like to go some more?
I really try not to. Something so stupid should be ignored but however I feel like I am being trolled once again to responding to such nonsense. Guess its in my nature to attempt to combat blind ignorance no matter who spews it out. Only if they listen..
We TaRdED
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The AC units really help explain a lot Zen, thanks
How much weight do you think the AC units would add to the building? Why wouldn't they have AC units in the bottom of building too(was it central air?)? Regardless of the weight the AC added, the buildings were engineered to withstand plane crashes and to withstand the weight of the air conditioners. Don't listen to me, listen to an MIT engineer YouTube - MIT Engineer Disputes 911 Theory of the WTC Collapse-Part 1
YouTube - 9/11 Truth: MIT Engineer Jeff King Says WTC Demolished
If someone would only watch this video it would help explain a lot.. YouTube - WTC 7 - Pull It By Larry Silverstein If someone can watch this vid (its only 24 seconds) and has a head on their shoulders that works, than they can deduce that the the owner of the WTC complex- Larry Silverstein- gave the order to pull WTC7 and then they pulled it and they watched WTC7 fall in its own footprint at near free fall speed. Ohhh ya, and lets not forget to listen to the official report, and be aware that this building feel because of a fire
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YouTube - Alex Jones Predicts 911
YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real
Only if you listen.
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
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bobharvey
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i think that its just another one of those things that don't have to be explained just ignored. and when brought by genuine truth seekers, they get called nut jobs by people who refuse to believe that anyone on tv would ever lie to them...
I guess if you ignore the fact that wtc7 did collapse, like the 911 commission did then it just goes away.
I guess if you ignore the fact that wtc7 did collapse, like the 911 commission did then it just goes away.
GrowRebel
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What complete and total bullshit ... this guy is as lame as the kid that post it ... First of all the building started to collapse AFTER the firefighters heard the explosions
No steel framed high-rise building has ever collapsed due to fire - due to the high temperatures that would be required to weaken structural steel past it's critical safety margin - even though very large, very hot, and very long-lasting fires have ravaged many steel-structure high-rise buildings. These buildings are all in use today:
Caracas, Venezuela, Oct, 2004, 56 story building,
burned for 17 hours over 26 floors
Los Angeles, May 1988, 1st Interstate Bank, 62 stories,
burned for 3.5 hours over 5 floors
Philadelphia, Feb, 1991, Meridian Plaza, 38 stories,
burned for 18 hours over 8 floors
New York, Aug, 1970, New York Plaza, 50 stories,
burned for six hours
Yet this kid and his crackpot scientist believes a building design to withstand a plane crash and fire could free fall in 15 sec only after burning less than an hour ... please ...
It takes thousands of degrees to bend steel like this without buckling. Thermate cutter charges create over 4,500°F. Fires even with jet fuel create only 1,700°F maximum.
... so your source fuck up ... he fail to explain why other similar buildings didn't collapse ... and they burned far longer ... and that bullshit about downward motion ... what a and batteries melting ...what a crock of shit ...
check it ...
a building that suppose to have collapse from downward motion would not make cuts like that ... so much for your source...
Folk this is the kind of bullshit you can expect from this kid ... he can't plead ignorance because we have giving several sources of information ... so he can be legally called stupid ...
We TaRdED
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Are you saying I should ignore the WTC7 collapse? WTF???
If we find out what really happened on the day of sept. 11 of 2001 than it would explain a lot of our present day situation, much better. Just think of how much could be explained if we could get some conclusive facts on who was actually behind 911. We could figure out why our gas prices are so high. We could figure out why our dollar is losing its value and thusly increasing the price of everything else. Maybe thats why G.W.Bush put an immunity(or whatever the exact name was) on himself for his actions while being in office?
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
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We TaRdED
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This is my favorite picture
If someone(Zen) can explain why the middle beam, above the firefighters head, is cut perfectly like that than I will stop believing that 911was an inside job
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
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arabmobster
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911 commision was written to fool everyone
AchillesLast
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I dunno if this video has already been linked (I didn't have time to read through all 20 something pages) but it's one of the best 9/11 videos I've seen. Very in depth and full length all on youtube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
GrowRebel
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Like Vi he has none... only bullshit rhetoric ... and 9 chances in 10 something has already been posted that would slam any of his bullshit ...
Here's more on people disputing the so-called "official" story of 911 ...
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/158715-Book-Review-9-11-Contradictions-An-Open-Letter-to-Congress-and-the-Press[URL="http://www.sott.net/articles/show/158715-Book-Review-9-11-Contradictions-An-Open-Letter-to-Congress-and-the-Press"]9-11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press[/url]
Dr. Griffin presents a sequence of irrefutable facts drawn from documents and testimony that demonstrate twenty five internal contradictions in the official 9/11 story. As each contradiction is presented, the author juxtaposes documented timelines and official memos, eye-witness testimony, television broadcasts and news articles that are logically inconsistent with the narrative contrived by the 9/11 Commission.
Here's more on people disputing the so-called "official" story of 911 ...
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/158715-Book-Review-9-11-Contradictions-An-Open-Letter-to-Congress-and-the-Press[URL="http://www.sott.net/articles/show/158715-Book-Review-9-11-Contradictions-An-Open-Letter-to-Congress-and-the-Press"]9-11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press[/url]
Dr. Griffin presents a sequence of irrefutable facts drawn from documents and testimony that demonstrate twenty five internal contradictions in the official 9/11 story. As each contradiction is presented, the author juxtaposes documented timelines and official memos, eye-witness testimony, television broadcasts and news articles that are logically inconsistent with the narrative contrived by the 9/11 Commission.
email468
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you and Zen and we and everyone on here can scream facts at the top of their lungs but it boils down to this - you don't know. Zen doesn't know. And I don't know.
The difference is - i admit it.
email468
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are you attacking me personally? Are you calling me stupid?
I did not insult you and will ask you kindly not to insult me. Say what you like but i do not get my "facts" from youtube OR the mass media. Which is why i have so few facts as they are very difficult to come by. And unlike facts, guesses and bullshit are all around us.
I am not trying to dispute anyone or anything. I don't know because (drum roll please....) i wasn't there and have not looked first hand at the evidence. Even if i did have access, I am no expert and would not know what I would be looking at anyway. So I am stuck either not knowing or trusting one of the experts. And frankly, the experts are disagreeing about what the evidence says so that leaves us choosing sides. You choose or have faith in the evidence (what you are calling facts) that agrees more with your preconceived notions as is Zen and everyone else on this thread. I have seen other posts that refute your facts and you dismiss them out of hand... why? I ask the same question of people who do the same with the facts you present.
I have no horse in this race other than telling you (and anyone else convinced they have all the facts) to get the fuck off your high-horse and entertain the possibility you could be wrong.
Let me ask you this - what evidence would convince you that you are mistaken?
We TaRdED
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How much more "proof" do you need? Idk. Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I'm too retarded to know. I should practice what I preach, and stay away from the tap water.....
911, in my most honest and humble opinion, was an inside job..
Some of my favorite youtube vids
YouTube - Larry Silverstein admits WTC7 was pulled down on 9/11
YouTube - Alex Jones Predicts 911 Alex Jones actually predicted 911 in this vid.
Richard Gage, AIA, Architect - "How The Towers Fell" - Complete 2 Hour Presentation | 911Blogger.com An architect refutes the alleged 911 report.
YouTube - MIT Engineer Disputes 911 Theory of the WTC Collapse-Part 2 An MIT professor refutes the alleged 911 report.
YouTube - FOX-5 Reports 9/11/01: WTC-7 Collapsed Before Actual Event A news company reports that WTC7 fell before it actually did.
YouTube - If You're an American you should see THIS! for real A pissed off politician is empathetic of the conspiracy "theorists".
Sure, no one came out and said "I was behind the 911 attack(besides "Bin Landin" YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: THE BIN LADEN TAPE IS A FAKE!) , but what criminals come out and say "Hey, I robbed that bank. Now you can handcuff me and escort me to the jail cell that I will spend my life in?"?
Why do you think we have court system? Its because people usually lie about the crimes that they have committed and its up to the judge and (possibly) jury to discern/dictate what really happened- through clues and evidence. So, I ask you, how much more information do you really need in order put the pieces together and figure out whats really going on? Maybe I'm just a delusional idiot, but from the evidence that has been put forth on this thread, I would rule the Bush administration and his cronies guilty!
RON PAUL REVOLUTION
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