What is your faith and beliefs? What do you trust? Whats your spirituality? O.M.G.

[Nevaeh420]

I know some of you are athiests but what do you put your faith and trust in? What are your beliefs?

Science? Science cant save your soul, but you might believe it can. Or you might believe you dont need to be saved.

Dont get Me wrong, I'm a science aficionado but it doesnt explain spiritual things, IMO! (But spiritual things are subjective and science is objective.)

What do you believe to be absolutely true? Without a doubt, that "tickles" you?

We know Jesus or God can NOT be proven but what or Who can be?

Is there anyone alive that is worthy of worshipping? Why worship a dead person? ya know?

Do you believe Christ has come and is dead? Do you believe Christ is alive? Or do you believe Christ is coming back for us soon?

I actually believe I AM Christ, so I WAS dead, but I'm alive and I'm still coming soon. Lol, I'm serious!

If this was the making of a "modern Holy Book", what would you say to collaborate in the effort of making a "modern Bible"?

What do you think is worth meditating on?

Any religious convictions that are worthy of sharing?

What do you worship?

Can you prove what you believe? What is the infallible evidence? And why should I believe that too?

Whats some of the smartest things that you know that could enlighten knuckleheads like Me?

I'm Agnostic, but, as you all know, I believe that I AM the Son of God!

What do you know that could save the world?

I'll tell you what I believe that can save the world! Click on the link below! Take your time and read it all, it might take a few days though!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

If you want to read the rant about how I believe that I AM the Son of God, and ways to improve and save the world than click on the link above!

Lets make this an awsome thread and keep it clean, with lots of good information to try and make a worthy spiritual book about modern day man! You can share everything from your opinions, to science, to Scripture to prove your point! Whatever you want to do to prove your point! Whats worthy of a modern day Holy Book?

You can choose to answer one of these questions or all of them, its up to you, just keep it friendly!

What can you all teach Me?

~PEACE~

 

[brotherjericho]

Why do I have to put my faith and trust in anything? I tend to trust friends and family, but not fully. They are human after all.

 

[Nevaeh420]

Why do I have to put my faith and trust in anything?

You dont have to put your faith in anything, the question was for people that do. Plus, there are many other questions that I asked in the first post!

I dont know what I put My faith in... I'm kinda a "Christian" that does NOT believe in Jesus because I believe He is dead. I actually believe that I AM Christ Myself! I'm skeptical about Christianity because it has been largely debunked in My opinion but I believe in some of the spiritual things in the Scriptures of the Bible! I'm a little Agnostic too because I cant prove Gods existance but I believe in a God but I've never met God personally, so I cant be sure!

So I'm kinda on the fence. I want to believe in facts and not fairy tales!

~PEACE~

 

[mindphuk]

I know some of you are athiests but what do you put your faith and trust in? What are your beliefs?

Nothing deserves to have faith if we are using the religious definition of belief without evidence or reason.

Science? Science cant save your soul, but you might believe it can. Or you might believe you dont need to be saved.

One would first have to clearly define 'soul' then demonstrate it's existence before I would bother spending any time worrying about it.

Dont get Me wrong, I'm a science aficionado but it doesnt explain spiritual things, IMO! (But spiritual things are subjective and science is objective.)

Once again you have to define 'spiritual things' and demonstrate their existence.

What do you believe to be absolutely true? Without a doubt, that "tickles" you?

The only thing I can be absolutely sure of is my own existence. Everything else is decreasing levels of confidence. I'm pretty confident I live in a shared reality with other conscious beings.

We know Jesus or God can NOT be proven but what or Who can be?

Absolute proof of anything is questionable. This is one reason why we don't use the word proof in science

I actually believe I AM Christ, so I WAS dead, but I'm alive and I'm still coming soon. Lol, I'm serious!
I dont know what I put My faith in... I'm kinda a "Christian" that does NOT believe in Jesus because I believe He is dead. I actually believe that I AM Christ Myself! I'm skeptical about Christianity because it has been largely debunked in My opinion but I believe in some of the spiritual things in the Scriptures of the Bible! I'm a little Agnostic too because I cant prove Gods existance but I believe in a God but I've never met God personally, so I cant be sure!

Christ is derived from the Greek Kristos which is the word used for the Hebrew messiah or moshiach. Messiah means annointed, it is basically a king and the Jews were waiting for the next King of Israel. There was no belief that this king would be anything more than a human man, blessed by god but not a god himself. It was Christianity that changed this idea to where the messiah was literally god's son. It is inconsistent to claim that Christianity has been largely debunked but continue to use Christian doctrine to support your delusion that you are the literal son of god. You're an idiot and no one wants to read your ramblings anymore. Quit spamming links to a thread that was shut down.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I know some of you are athiests but what do you put your faith and trust in? What are your beliefs?

My parents and one friend I know from childhood are the only people I fully trust. What are my beliefs in what context?

Science? Science cant save your soul, but you might believe it can. Or you might believe you dont need to be saved.

Science is the best tool we have available to us to figure out reality. I don't believe in the 'soul'. I don't believe I need to be saved.

Dont get Me wrong, I'm a science aficionado but it doesnt explain spiritual things, IMO! (But spiritual things are subjective and science is objective.)

That is like saying "I'm a wine aficionado but it doesn't explain radio frequencies, IMO!". Science doesn't attempt to explain spirituality.

What do you believe to be absolutely true? Without a doubt, that "tickles" you?

Nothing is 'absolutely true', there only varying degrees of certainty

We know Jesus or God can NOT be proven but what or Who can be?

Anything that breaks natural laws that we know are universal constants we know cannot exist

Is there anyone alive that is worthy of worshipping? Why worship a dead person? ya know?

Why would you choose to worship a person or an object, something material, when you can choose to worship concepts like peace and love? People make mistakes all the time.

Do you believe Christ has come and is dead? Do you believe Christ is alive? Or do you believe Christ is coming back for us soon?

No. Nope. I don't believe Christ ever came back or ever will again, I'm not even sure such a man ever existed in the first place

I actually believe I AM Christ, so I WAS dead, but I'm alive and I'm still coming soon. Lol, I'm serious!

You're delusional if you actually believe that. Here's a simple way to tell if you're Christ, we know what some of Jesus Christ's powers and abilities were, water to wine, walk on water, etc. go try that, can you do it? You're not Christ.

What would lead you to believe this?

If this was the making of a "modern Holy Book", what would you say to collaborate in the effort of making a "modern Bible"?

Commandments actually worth the paper they're written on, up to date scientific knowledge on human anatomy, biology, ethics and morality, sexuality and philosophy. That type of shit probably..

What do you think is worth meditating on?

I know some people get some benefit out of meditation, but I personally don't think it's worth my time

What do you worship?

I don't worship anything

Can you prove what you believe? What is the infallible evidence? And why should I believe that too?

Pretty much. A lot. I think you should believe what is true because if you go through life believing bullshit that's false, you're likely to cast votes to candidates that support bullshit, or give money to con artists or other bullshit artists

Whats some of the smartest things that you know that could enlighten knuckleheads like Me?

Do what I did.. think of the most amazing facts you can, then go find out how we found that out. You want to know how we know the universe is expanding, Google it and read about Edwin Hubble. You want to know how we know the Earth orbits the Sun, Google it and read all about Nicolaus Copernicus.. it gets even more interesting when all these little stories you read about intertwine with each other, when you read little seemingly ordinary pieces about how some of your favorite scientists who came up with some of the most important advancements in their field knew each other during their lifetimes and were friends..

Read. The more you read, the broader your interest will become, that's the definition of an educated man.

I'm Agnostic, but, as you all know, I believe that I AM the Son of God!

That's not agnostic

What do you know that could save the world?

If people would face reality for what it is instead of make up things that make it easier to cope with and pretend they have all the answers to lifes impossible questions, but the pessimist in me thinks that train left the station way before I was born, so I'm personally not hopeful for the future

I'll tell you what I believe that can save the world! Click on the link below! Take your time and read it all, it might take a few days though!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

Nothing but crazy in that thread

 

[burgertime2010]

I will take a bite, faith is a celebrated mental condition. You can know only one external truth.....that you cant know. God as a concept is lazy, a remedy to the curious human to silence his own intellect about the nature of all that is. You are god? he hangs out in a chatroom with all the shit wrong with this world? he does not deserve worship. Worship yourself, serve others, teach your talents..

 

[Beefbisquit]

I know some of you are athiests but what do you put your faith and trust in? What are your beliefs?

I try not to have beliefs. Beliefs get rooted, beliefs cause hatred. I hold ideas, because ideas can change.

Science? Science cant save your soul, but you might believe it can. Or you might believe you dont need to be saved.

There's nothing to suggest that souls exist. When you can demonstrate that souls exist we can discuss how to save them. We don't need talk about how to save "Fuzzy-whats-its" either...

Dont get Me wrong, I'm a science aficionado but it doesnt explain spiritual things, IMO! (But spiritual things are subjective and science is objective.)

You are demonstrably not a science aficionado. Your statement about being scientifically minded, followed by a comment on 'spiritual things' is, in and of itself not scientific to its very core.

What do you believe to be absolutely true? Without a doubt, that "tickles" you?

I exist, and I know it's not possible to prove it but I also believe (on faith I suppose, but don't get too excited N420; it's non-equivocal faith) that you all exist too. For the sake of the argument, I'm going to assume you all exist or else it's this conversation is pointless.

We know Jesus or God can NOT be proven but what or Who can be?

If there is physical evidence to support someone's existence, it can be demonstrated that they exist. If there are multiple, non-contradictory pieces of literature, or documents that can have come from legitimate sources, they could also stand to prove the historical existence of someone. Using forensic evidence to determine if someone existed sometime in history is obviously much harder than if you have a living person or a body, or remains.

Is there anyone alive that is worthy of worshipping? Why worship a dead person? ya know?

No.

Do you believe Christ has come and is dead? Do you believe Christ is alive? Or do you believe Christ is coming back for us soon?

I think there might have been a person with the name Jesus, but I don't think he was a magical zombie jew who rose from the dead. Do I really need to answer the second part?

I actually believe I AM Christ, so I WAS dead, but I'm alive and I'm still coming soon. Lol, I'm serious!

I believe that you don't actually believe that. If you do, you should get some help. I'm serious.

If this was the making of a "modern Holy Book", what would you say to collaborate in the effort of making a "modern Bible"?

I've already taken the liberty of combining all of the useful knowledge of the bible into one sentence;

"Don't be a cunt."

What do you think is worth meditating on?

I don't meditate, but if I did it would probably be pornographic in nature.

Any religious convictions that are worthy of sharing?

I was raised a Baptist, and I went to bible camp and Sunday school at an early age until I was 10 when I figured out that it was a complete load of shit.

What do you worship?

Nothing.

Can you prove what you believe? What is the infallible evidence? And why should I believe that too?

It's not about proof. Proof implies absolute certainty. As I stated above; ideas are better because they can change without causing cognitive dissonance.

I hold many ideas to be true to different levels. It's a spectrum of likelihood. I know I exist, and for the sake of argument, I'm all but certain you all exist. I'm slightly less certain, but still virtually 100%, that evolution is true and that we orbit the sun. It goes on and on with a huge list of things that I am virtually certain are true and gets to things that I'm not so sure about like alien life, and gravity, and string theory, etc.

It would take an astounding amount of evidence to contradict the already astounding amount of evidence, in favor of the things I mentioned above to cause the slightest bit of uncertainty in those ideas I hold.

Whats some of the smartest things that you know that could enlighten knuckleheads like Me?

"I know that I know nothing." - Socrates

I'm Agnostic, but, as you all know, I believe that I AM the Son of God!

So, you don't know if god exists, but you have a messiah complex? Nice.

What do you know that could save the world?

That god probably doesn't exist, so everyone should stop fucking fighting about it.

I'll tell you what I believe that can save the world! Click on the link below! Take your time and read it all, it might take a few days though!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

If you want to read the rant about how I believe that I AM the Son of God, and ways to improve and save the world than click on the link above!

Lets make this an awsome thread and keep it clean, with lots of good information to try and make a worthy spiritual book about modern day man! You can share everything from your opinions, to science, to Scripture to prove your point! Whatever you want to do to prove your point! Whats worthy of a modern day Holy Book?

You can choose to answer one of these questions or all of them, its up to you, just keep it friendly!

What can you all teach Me?

~PEACE~

There are some great people here who have some invaluable knowledge. If you're willing to listen, you can learn a lot.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I try not to have beliefs. Beliefs get rooted, beliefs cause hatred. I hold ideas, because ideas can change.

Nicely put. I hadn't really thought about it like that.

 

[MISSPHOEBE]

There is nothing to believe in ........ except one thing..........

............................................................................


.............................GANJA!

 

[cannawizard]

i spoke to jesus when i was on DMT, and he said he doesn't know how he got caught up in any religion.. then i saw a mechanical dwarf~ the end

 

[Dislexicmidget2021]

I know some of you are athiests but what do you put your faith and trust in? What are your beliefs?


I put no sort of belief or faith in anything supernatural,If I were to believe in something it would be in my own capacity's and limits as a human being as well as the natural physical laws that govern life.

Science? Science cant save your soul, but you might believe it can. Or you might believe you dont need to be saved.

Youre right Science cant save souls,, "souls" are not tangible to observation or test.soul has not been substantiated on any sustainable level.

Dont get Me wrong, I'm a science aficionado but it doesnt explain spiritual things, IMO! (But spiritual things are subjective and science is objective.)
You a science afficionado?lol ,,,U may appreciate and like science,but you still dont seem to take into account the execution of its principles.
What do you believe to be absolutely true? Without a doubt, that "tickles" you?
I cant say that I believe in anything to be absolutely true.There are things that hold the highest probability to be true.But absolutes are another man made device that tricks the mind into beliefs.

We know Jesus or God can NOT be proven but what or Who can be?
Well a man named Jesus was crucified during the days of the Roman Empire,there are actual documents of his horrible demise that much can be proven but as for all of the other supernatural stuff that is described around the time of his death,I vest no thought into it.As far as God goes,there is still nothing of credible evidence.
Is there anyone alive that is worthy of worshipping? Why worship a dead person? ya know?
No,Just simply No.Worship is infatuative and obsessive as well as unhealthy for the mind.Showing great respect to someone is as far as I would go.
Do you believe Christ has come and is dead? Do you believe Christ is alive? Or do you believe Christ is coming back for us soon?
No.
I actually believe I AM Christ, so I WAS dead, but I'm alive and I'm still coming soon. Lol, I'm serious!
I dont think any reasonable mind will take you seriously when you say stuff like this,,,ever.
If this was the making of a "modern Holy Book", what would you say to collaborate in the effort of making a "modern Bible"?
Hold no bias opinions.Observe everything and question its function.Study and test assertions for consistency.Make no unmeritted assumptions.
What do you think is worth meditating on?
There are a great deal of things worth meditating on in life,not to sound selfish,but the most important thing to meditate on in life is yourself and how you perceive the world,I would say the search for true clarity of mind.
Any religious convictions that are worthy of sharing?
Religious convictions?I have none,I feel no need for any religion personaly.

What do you worship?Question already asked and answered.
Can you prove what you believe? What is the infallible evidence? And why should I believe that too?
I can not and will not tell you why you should believe in anything,though I suggest doing less believing and more atudy of the scientific method of observation.
Whats some of the smartest things that you know that could enlighten knuckleheads like Me?

Check your A.D.D. at the door when you go to a library.

I'm Agnostic, but, as you all know, I believe that I AM the Son of God!
Ya,,,,,Agnostic Son of God,,,,right......And I am one of the elves from the North pole.
What do you know that could save the world?
We have the ability to think for ourselves.People should strive to excersize the mind and improve their own thinking process.This meaning dont be a lazy minded person it leads to acceptance of BS from all directions.
I'll tell you what I believe that can save the world! Click on the link below! Take your time and read it all, it might take a few days though!
ya,been there plenty enough. Im not going to revisit it.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Nicely put. I hadn't really thought about it like that.

Can't remember where I read that.... stuck with me though!

 

[tyler.durden]

Can't remember where I read that.... stuck with me though!

That line of of thinking is directly from the Book of Zaehet Strife

 

[Beefbisquit]

That line of of thinking is directly from the Book of Zaehet Strife

 

[tyler.durden]

^^ I like Chris, hard to believe that's really his quote based on the interviews I remember. I've seen similar sentiment elsewhere, but I read it most in Z's posts. It seems like a matter of semantics between these two words 'belief' and 'idea'. We all hold both: ideas (thoughts and conceptions) that we like to play around with and to which we subjectively ascribe a certain degree of validity, and beliefs, i.e. ideas we hold to be true at the present time. I think we all believe that the sun will come up tomorrow morning, or that when we drop something heavy it will fall toward the ground, even though there is the possibility that these things may not happen. It seems to me that some people prefer to say that they hold ideas, but not beliefs. I think that would be a difficult, if not impossible, way to live. It seems that some of these people fear committing to the fact that they hold beliefs, as they could then be wrong. I don't have a problem being wrong, I simply feel the sting and then adjust my viewpoint accordingly. Your thoughts?

 

[Zaehet Strife]

I couldn't have said it any better myself Tyler. I feel the same way about that, as i feel about the fallowing quote from one of the most influential people in my life;

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs and different degrees of certainty about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything and there are many things i don't know anything about."

Am i required to believe or even have an idea that i don't know something if i don't know it? Do you have to become conscious of knowing you don't know something in order to not know it?

I don't think so, i think we don't know a lot of things, regardless if we are aware of it or not.

But think about it, if you are an american and you grew up in america, how were you raised if you went to a public school? That being wrong is bad. Being wrong will get you laughed at by everyone that surrounds you. Being wrong will get you criticized, chastised, made fun of. Society has molded us into animals who are aware that being wrong... is not a good thing, and can embarrass us, it can hurt us physically and mentally depending on the situation.

It is no big surprise to me, that so many people hold onto beliefs as tight as they possibly can... because to be wrong about something, can be the most embarrassing, hurtful and painful thing in our lives, especially if it is an idea that dictates how we live our lives or an idea that gives us a sense of purpose and meaning in our lives.

In short, in order to escape the pain of accepting that we might be wrong about our supernatural beliefs (beliefs in which no physical proof can be shared with one another)... we are required to pretend that we are certain of them. And I, for one, am so tired, just so tired... of pretending.

 

[Beefbisquit]

^^ I like Chris, hard to believe that's really his quote based on the interviews I remember. I've seen similar sentiment elsewhere, but I read it most in Z's posts. It seems like a matter of semantics between these two words 'belief' and 'idea'. We all hold both: ideas (thoughts and conceptions) that we like to play around with and to which we subjectively ascribe a certain degree of validity, and beliefs, i.e. ideas we hold to be true at the present time. I think we all believe that the sun will come up tomorrow morning, or that when we drop something heavy it will fall toward the ground, even though there is the possibility that these things may not happen. It seems to me that some people prefer to say that they hold ideas, but not beliefs. I think that would be a difficult, if not impossible, way to live. It seems that some of these people fear committing to the fact that they hold beliefs, as they could then be wrong. I don't have a problem being wrong, I simply feel the sting and then adjust my viewpoint accordingly. Your thoughts?

It was from the movie Dogma... lol Not actually Chris Rock's opinion, but the opinion of Rufus, the 13th apostle.

I love Kevin Smith! Another quote from the movie;

Bethany: You knew Jesus?
Rufus: Knew him? Shit... Nigga owes me 12 bucks.

 

[Beefbisquit]

You dont have to put your faith in anything, the question was for people that do. Plus, there are many other questions that I asked in the first post!

I dont know what I put My faith in... I'm kinda a "Christian" that does NOT believe in Jesus because I believe He is dead. I actually believe that I AM Christ Myself! I'm skeptical about Christianity because it has been largely debunked in My opinion but I believe in some of the spiritual things in the Scriptures of the Bible! I'm a little Agnostic too because I cant prove Gods existance but I believe in a God but I've never met God personally, so I cant be sure!

So I'm kinda on the fence. I want to believe in facts and not fairy tales!

~PEACE~

I think you and this guy should have a deathmatch to decide who is Jesus, once and for all. He already has followers and a compound, what do you have?

I mean, what could be more Christian than a bloody, gruesome battle?

 

[Nevaeh420]

I think you and this guy should have a deathmatch to decide who is Jesus, once and for all. He already has followers and a compound, what do you have?

I mean, what could be more Christian than a bloody, gruesome battle?

I dont have anything special. I own a house and a vehicle and some toys and tools. I dont have much.

The difference from Me and the "other" Christ POSERS is that I'm not trying to start a cult. I dont want a cult. Dont get Me wrong, I want "followers" but I'm not worthy to be worshipped. The "followers" that I want are just people that will share in My goal of setting up a utopia here on earth. I have spoken what I want to do, in the link below, to set up Gods Kingdom on earth!

https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/600992-i-found-like-dozen-videos.html

In the above link, I talk about how I want to terraform this sad planet into something real special. Its a long read, it might take a few days to read all the content and to watch all the videos but I guarantee you will learn a bunch of novel inventions on how to implement Gods Kingdom.

Another difference between Me and the Christ posers is that I dont tell anyone in person about My personal beliefs. I believe I have some wonderful notions that could save the world and make it a trillion times better and I felt that I had to share it with someone so I made a thread with most of My beliefs and notions about Gods Kingdom.

It may just be My Messiah complex, but I do believe that if My ideas get in the right hands than the ideas could terraform this planet and setup a utopia for all people. I'm just trying to reach a few people that are in positions to do something about the atrocities present in the world today. Whats a better way of reaching people than through the world wide web? My goal is to make everyone very rich and optimize resources and get rid of pollution and build as many mansions as possible, whether they are on LAND, UNDERGROUND, SKYSKRAPERS, UNDERWATER, FLOATING ON THE OCEAN, UNDER THE OCEAN FLOOR OR IN SPACE!

Basically I just want to help. I dont want a cult and I dont want to be worshipped because I'm not worthy of it, but I do want to help in My pecular way. My Messiah complex could just be a delusion but read that link above from "cover to cover" and than let Me know where My bad intentions are. I'm not claiming to be infallible, rather far from it, but I do have some exceptional notions about how to heal the land and people.

It might all be a delusion that I can actually help the world but what if I had some real power to implement My notions like A ONE WORLD ONLINE GOVERNMENT? What would happen if the people had 99% of the power to choose and vote on legislation via their computers from home or where ever? What if we, the people, could vote on every law? This idea alone would revolutionize the planet as we know it!

I'm NOT Jesus and I dont want to be, but I do believe God is My Daddy! I do believe that I AM the Son of God! But thats just My belief and it might never turn into something other than a strange belief.

I'm the least among you all and I'm very humble but why cant the world go with the best ideas exclusivly and implement only the best? Get the best and forget the rest! I want the best for Myself and every creature, thats all. I see injustice all around and someone needs to do something about it all. Wheres a better place to preach peace than on the internet?




~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

I think you and this guy should have a deathmatch to decide who is Jesus, once and for all. He already has followers and a compound, what do you have?

I mean, what could be more Christian than a bloody, gruesome battle?

This guy gets winner...

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