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[budolskie]

Boardwalk empire or the wire.

Balls goin one way Johnson goin the other.

he is also omar in the wire

 

[DoobieBrother]

that's crazy, so with cash you have to go in a pay money, then pump your gas and then go back and get your change....eh? wtf? lol.

And normally, in Oregon, it's unlawful for anyone but the gas attendant to pump the gas, but she didn't hesitate about handing it over to me.
I suspect either she's used to finicky cycle owners who despise getting gas on their fuel tanks, or riders who prefer to know how "full" the tank really is by filling the tank themselves, or her husband may be a rider, etc.., or motorcycles are exempt?
I just found this online news article about it, and need to read it...

http://www.ktvb.com/news/i-wonder/I-Wonder-Why-cant-you-pump-your-own-gas-in-Oregon-82256587.html
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by Don Day
KTVB.COM
KTVB.COM
Posted on January 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM
Updated Friday, Jan 22 at 5:53 AM



Why is it that only in Oregon they will pump gas for you but not in other states? Why is it required in Oregon?
- Danielle, Meridian

We’ve all done it. Hop in the car for a trip to Oregon, stop to get some gas, jump out and grab the gas nozzle.

Then you hear it. The notice from the gas station attendant: “Stop!” Stop… pumping my own gas?

The Beaver State is known for many things – a beautiful coast-line, great micro-brews and a ban on pumping your own gas.

Oregon State Code lays it all out in black and white: only trained employees of service stations are allowed to put so-called “Class 1 Flammable Liquids” into cars.

Not only is the prohibition the law of the land, but legislators in Salem put a laundry list of reasons why the ban was prudent into state code. The list isn’t a short one:

• People with training in pumping are better at keeping down fire risk
• It is nearly impossible to enforce safety standards on the driving public
• Seniors and disabled drivers can’t get adequate help at self-serve stations, and are instead forced to find a full-service outlet and pay a higher price
• Oregon’s rainy climate leads to more slick spots at gas stations, meaning higher liability insurance rates
• Decreased maintenance of pumps because they aren’t regularly monitored
• Self-service contributes to unemployment – especially among young people
• Exposure to toxic fumes is a health hazard
• Toxic fume exposure is heightened for pregnant women
• Gas drive-off thefts are cut down with the law
• Children are sometimes left unattended when customers go to make payment

Oregon law also makes it clear that just because it works in places like Idaho or most of the rest of the country, doesn’t mean it is the right call for them. Reference is made to “other states” four separate times in the law – including notes on the inability to enforce safety standards, lack of support for senior citizens and even the disappearance of auto-repair shops at gas stations.

While the law puts forth lots of reasons – what’s the real root of the rule?

"It's one of those things where I think tradition plays a huge role,” Marie Dodds with Oregon’s AAA said. "Keeping prices down was the original reason.”

Dodds says times have changed in the decades since the law was enacted.

“Our gas is no more expensive than Washington or California."

But if you are itching to grab the gas nozzle in Oregon – don’t look for it to happen any time soon. Dodds says the issue has gone to voters several times, and residents always say they like the system the way it is. She says the fact that Oregonians get their gas pumped without paying more is a benefit.

“If it doesn't cost anymore and we can still have it pumped, why not? Once you're here for a while and you get used it you don't want it to change."

One thing drivers in Oregon never have to do is get out of the car on a rainy or cold day to put gas in their vehicle.

"I think it's one of those things that people who come to Oregon have trouble believing it. It boils down to Oregon likes to be a little bit different sometimes,” Dodds said.

If you’ve ever been embarrassed because you tried to fill your tank in Oregon – you’re not alone. Oregonians sometimes have the opposite problem.

"Sometimes I visit another state and sit there for a second and go 'oh wait', before I get out and start pumping."

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First time I'd pumped my own gas in the 6-3/4 years since moving back from Alaska.
Made me feel like a grown up again.

But, unfortunately, there is a brand of humans out there who would rather steal some gas and risk injury or jail rather than just pay for it like everybody else has to.
Ah, well, I was in no hurry.

Oh, and according to the tracking number, the service/repair manual for my scooter arrived at our postal box at the UPS Store yesterday, so today I pop down and pick it up and study the diagrams to see exactly what I'm dealing with.

 

[whodatnation]

Got it, thats who I thought it was

[video=youtube;zweq4ZabNd8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zweq4ZabNd8[/video]

 

[whodatnation]

LOVED the wire. I wish treme was as good.


[video=youtube;h2us0OaFUR8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2us0OaFUR8[/video]

 

[budolskie]

the wire is one my favs whodat m8 seen it about 5 times haha and could watch it again

 

[209 Cali closet grower]

thanks guys, just glad it happen now then later. haters alway expose them selfs! my falt for letting this happen, but there will be no next time! anyone i don,t know realy, i already cut them off. sucks i can,t trust no one anymore.

also got more bb gear outside. and my cherry pie out there. time to get razer wire to warp my plants in!!

 

[DoobieBrother]

And here is why we proud few in Oregon who traipse the world in the wind and with the rubber side down get to pump our own righteous fuel for our own damn selves:

REGULATION OF GASOLINE DISPENSING
Statute: ORS 480.330
Title: Operation of gasoline dispensing device by public prohibited; aviation fuel exception.
Text:
An owner, operator or employee of a filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids, except aviation fuels, are dispensed at retail may not permit any person other than the owner, operator or employee to use or manipulate any pump, hose, pipe or other device for dispensing the liquids into the fuel tank of a motor vehicle or other retail container.

On June 11, 2001, Oregon motorcyclists won the right to pump their own gas.

Governor John Kitzhaber signed House Bill 3885 into law, which gives motorcyclists the choice of fueling their own bikes.

Oregon and New Jersey are the only two states which prohibit "Self-Serve" gas pumps, and now motorcycles will be the only class of vehicle allowed to actually dispense fuel into their own tanks in Oregon, effective January 1, 2002.

HB3885 passed with very few opposed in both the House and Senate, and most lawmakers agreed with BikePAC and Oregon's motorcyclists that the special fueling requirements of various bikes made the rider the expert at fuel dispensing.
This bill also removes a liability for gas station owners who permitted the common sense practice of allowing bikers to fuel their own.

REGULATION OF GASOLINE DISPENSING
Statute: ORS 480.349
Title: Use of gasoline dispensing device by motorcycle operator
(1) As used in this section, "motorcycle" has the meaning given that term in ORS 801.365.

(2) Notwithstanding ORS 480.330 and 480.340:
(a) Upon the request of an operator of a motorcycle, the owner, operator or employee of a filling station, service station, garage or other dispensary where Class 1 flammable liquids are dispensed at retail shall set the fuel dispensing device and hand the discharge nozzle to the operator of the motorcycle.
(b) An operator of a motorcycle who is handed a discharge nozzle under paragraph (a) of this subsection:
(A) May dispense Class 1 flammable liquids into the operator's motorcycle.
(B) Shall, after dispensing the liquids, return the discharge nozzle to the owner, operator or employee.

(3) The owner, operator or employee who is handed the discharge nozzle shall return the nozzle to the pump or take any other actions necessary to ensure safe completion of the fueling operation.
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"The reality is that while most gas station attendants hand the nozzle to you, they nearly always allow you to put the nozzle back in the pump yourself. The actual practice at the pump is not quite as restrictive as the word of the law."

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Got it, thats who I thought it was
[video=youtube;zweq4ZabNd8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zweq4ZabNd8[/video]

couldn't believe the way he went out in the wire. but it fitted well eh.

LOVED the wire. I wish treme was as good.

me too i had high hopes.

the wire is one my favs whodat m8 seen it about 5 times haha and could watch it again

likewise that and the sopranos i've done about 3 or 4 times.

http://www.awesomestories.com/assets/chalky-white

 

[kushking42]

ive only seen a few episodes of treme but i really like it. the wire is the best ive seen on tv. david simon: genius

 

[budolskie]

Haven't yet seen the sopranos that is going on my download list for when I finish shameless, can't wait for next sons of anarchy

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

i can't watch anything with ron pearlman in it since seeing police academy mission to moscow. he was even cheese in aliens. hellboy was ok as he wore that much prosthetic you couldn't tell it was him lol.

sons of anarchy seemed really off. i mean how many biker gangs have a tech hacker nerd in the ranks. lol

 

[whodatnation]

Any serious organized crime enterprise has a few geeks in it... Its the 21st century after all. ADAPT OR DIE.



sopranos rules all.

 

[Javadog]

i can't watch anything with ron pearlman in it since seeing police academy mission to moscow. he was even cheese in aliens. hellboy was ok as he wore that much prosthetic you couldn't tell it was him lol.

sons of anarchy seemed really off. i mean how many biker gangs have a tech hacker nerd in the ranks. lol

Ron is definitely a *working* actor. He seems willing to do anything.

He has done gems as well. "Quest For Fire" for one. "The City of Lost Children"
was whacko but I liked it.

JD

 

[Guzias1]

that's crazy, so with cash you have to go in a pay money, then pump your gas and then go back and get your change....eh? wtf? lol.

these cray things happen to me a couple times a week

how do you obtain gas??

 

[Guzias1]

People drive off without paying has created this problem. borrowed from uncle ben's forum 600w digital ballast $84.99 to 99.99 http://tools.woot.com/offers/ipower-grow-light-ballast-build-your-own-kit#read-more cof

i picked up one of these things, ballast died first, then shortly after the bulb.. these things are sooo cheap, maybe worth it to buy 2 up front (just in case one fails for back up) OR, just go drop the $ @ the hydro shop which backs a worthy return policy..

i tried to save $ going the cheap ballast/bulb route, and i now feel i have invested more $ due to that initial reasoning, i feel i have dropped more dough..

maybe some of yall gots better luck though

 

[whodatnation]

That's how it works when you get cheap shit.... End up spending more in the long run, but you gotta be able to know your not paying top $ for something that looks nice but runs crappy. I don't care what the hell it looks like as long as it works like its supposed to and is durable.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

just replaced one blown bulb in the twin cooltube and looking at the other bulb it's just about ready to go too fucking pain in the arse taking those things apart in situ i tell you. i wouldn't care but it's too hot to run them both at the same time

 

[MrSkyhighatrist]

Anybody that is interested in my thread should check it out!! lol

 

[DemonTrich]

not much to say, let the pics say the words. and they smell really GOOD!!!!

and the little seedling straggler that is makin a come-back. she is like that nursery rhyme of the little engine that could. or however that tale used to go about the train and the hill.

 

[DoobieBrother]

Just got my service/repair manual for my scooter in the mail!
Definitely NOT a crappy Hayne's or Chilton's manual that you would normally buy off the shelf at a car parts store: this is a complete, OEM, Honda service manual that you would see the mechanics referencing back in the shop at a Honda dealership.
Now to check it out and see what's what.
Then I start making calls about some transmission upgrades to squeeze out a little more speed and oomph.