My massive yield...3 gallon pots

Kite High

Kite High

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I dont guesstimate yield. I am superstitious about that. Lol. Heresmokethis there's 3 400 watt hid, I described it earlier.

SkunkdOc, I feel the LEDs makers are finally on the right track with whites as I disagree with the end spectrums solely as plants use the entire visible as well as a tiny bit of the non visible spectrums. I sought to create full sun emulation hence the cmh and UVB sources. Seems to be working
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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I am only asking because you have a lot of juice in a unique configuration. I guess I was wondering how much diference it would be from 3x600w on tables. In terms of yeild only.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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Kite High said:
I dont guesstimate yield. I am superstitious about that. Lol. Heresmokethis there's 3 400 watt hid, I described it earlier.

SkunkdOc, I feel the LEDs makers are finally on the right track with whites as I disagree with the end spectrums solely as plants use the entire visible as well as a tiny bit of the non visible spectrums. I sought to create full sun emulation hence the cmh and UVB sources. Seems to be working
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The original idea was to make the lights as efficient as possible by eliminating any spectrum's/ wavelengths that would produce minimal growth
the idea of mimicking the sun is a nice one but this was not the original intention of leds when they were first marketed
in order to maximize efficiency the correct wavelengths in correct proportions would need to applied, eliminating any wavelengths that would not be efficient
that has been ditched in favor of "covering all bases" using white light, i am not suggesting that using white light will not grow nice plants or that using white light is not a good idea

it would seem the led makers have given up on finding the correct ratios of individual wavelengths, that is the point of led's in the first place, they are able to produce single or very narrow ranges of wavelengths

i think its going to take sometime before i am convinced

peace
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Their research has shown them full spectrum equates to best growth. They found in their errors of chasing blues and reds that it was not efficient but rather full spectrum emulating sunlight is the most efficient. Which was obvious to me as nature wastes not and these plants made the most efficient use of the full spectrum on their own merit so of course it produces the best plants along with efficiency.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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Kite High said:
Their research has shown them full spectrum equates to best growth. They found in their errors of chasing blues and reds that it was not efficient but rather full spectrum emulating sunlight is the most efficient. Which was obvious to me as nature wastes not and these plants made the most efficient use of the full spectrum on their own merit so of course it produces the best plants along with efficiency.
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That sounds dubious, or maybe some led makers are just far behind
if this was the case we would have 1 model of led light, using full spectrum white leds only
there are still 100s of models using reds n blues etc

full spectrum may of been better than any combination they were able to come up with, so they gave up sounds more correct
a plant does not need as much green light as it does blue and red, i am not convinced the sun has a perfect spectrum but certainly a good model to follow
i am not arguing against white light , or full spectrum being better or not just their original led concept that as you say was wrong

if low pressure sodium were able to produce more reds instead of yellow in a very narrow band im sure folk would be using them too
as well as full spectrum

peace
 
Kite High

Kite High

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There's no way to say that anything other than the emulation of sunlight approach is better as remember plants for millions of years have used its spectrum solely so they are most efficient at using it. Logical no?
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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skunkd0c said:
That sounds dubious, or maybe some led makers are just far behind if this was the case we would have 1 model of led light, using full spectrum white leds only there are still 100s of models using reds n blues etc full spectrum may of been better than any combination they were able to come up with, so they gave up sounds more correct a plant does not need as much green light as it does blue and red, i am not convinced the sun has a perfect spectrum but certainly a good model to follow i am not arguing against white light , or full spectrum being better or not just their original led concept that as you say was wrong if low pressure sodium were able to produce more reds instead of yellow in a very narrow band im sure folk would be using them too as well as full spectrum peace
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I remeber in middle school that when combined two specific colors will produce white light, and all colors do as well. Perhaps, that may account for something.
 
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Vincent VonBlown

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Cinderella, should yield very heavy for the bud size if you get a good one, that's really resinous... I know our hybrid Cindy/Wonder yields insanely well for the size of buds it produces.
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Vincent VonBlown said:
Cinderella, should yield very heavy for the bud size if you get a good one, that's really resinous... I know our hybrid Cindy/Wonder yields insanely well for the size of buds it produces.
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Well then it should do great as they are all really resinous
a sample and not even the most resinous...but all at least this much or better
And Heresmokethis please forgive the intrusion
 
Doer

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Kite High said:
Their research has shown them full spectrum equates to best growth. They found in their errors of chasing blues and reds that it was not efficient but rather full spectrum emulating sunlight is the most efficient. Which was obvious to me as nature wastes not and these plants made the most efficient use of the full spectrum on their own merit so of course it produces the best plants along with efficiency.
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Yeah, it seems to be all about delivering the energy flux in the correct freq, though. The intensity of full spectrum sunlight takes more than a few watts. :)

LEDs before now have seemed so dim but they have gotten a lot better. I just got a shop light in some kind of high intensity LED. They don't even look like lamps. They appear to be small gold, flat topped buttons.

So, my test for my 1000w HPS is if have to squint. After about a year it seems, almost suddenly that the light seems, not dimmer, but just less intense in the squint test.

As I get it, we are harvesting that lamp for its frequency intensity in those reds. Its gone in about a year. But, it would make a dandy street light for another 5 years, probably. I need to figure out a way to get more use out of these.
 
Kite High

Kite High

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Doer said:
Yeah, it seems to be all about delivering the energy flux in the correct freq, though. The intensity of full spectrum sunlight takes more than a few watts. :)

LEDs before now have seemed so dim but they have gotten a lot better. I just got a shop light in some kind of high intensity LED. They don't even look like lamps. They appear to be small gold, flat topped buttons.

So, my test for my 1000w HPS is if have to squint. After about a year it seems, almost suddenly that the light seems, not dimmer, but just less intense in the squint test.

As I get it, we are harvesting that lamp for its frequency intensity in those reds. Its gone in about a year. But, it would make a dandy street light for another 5 years, probably. I need to figure out a way to get more use out of these.
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burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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Doer said:
Yeah, it seems to be all about delivering the energy flux in the correct freq, though. The intensity of full spectrum sunlight takes more than a few watts. :) LEDs before now have seemed so dim but they have gotten a lot better. I just got a shop light in some kind of high intensity LED. They don't even look like lamps. They appear to be small gold, flat topped buttons. So, my test for my 1000w HPS is if have to squint. After about a year it seems, almost suddenly that the light seems, not dimmer, but just less intense in the squint test. As I get it, we are harvesting that lamp for its frequency intensity in those reds. Its gone in about a year. But, it would make a dandy street light for another 5 years, probably. I need to figure out a way to get more use out of these.
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Perhaps a potentiometer could be added? I have a hps ballast that does...I don't know shit about that technology but my taser has an led and it gets dimmer as the batteries drain. I wonder if it could be rigged to work the other way.
 
blindbaby

blindbaby

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no. just the fact, that i used the organic bone/kelp meals. ruined my plants. but, only two more of these to harvest, and the chemically fed ones, look so super. all green. no burn. no singe. no droop. but, my "chemicals" are just the fox farm. this next round, im using the canna. and as i have stated before, it dosent seem to matter, in my grow, what ferts i use. its other things, and techniques, that seem to increase harvest...but, im only like 40 months in. im still a newbie-holio. and i admit it. its this site, and all the nice peeps, that make my day. thanks all!
 
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