Prison experiences

doublejj

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.......do you guy's still think Prison Industries been abusing these poor souls, like "chickens in a cage", by making license plates?........btw I think KFC chickens receive a more humane death than these guy's victims received.....and there are over 700 "lifers" at Folsom........
 

doublejj

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Ok, next gut check time........He's up for parole hearing.....he's been a 'model inmate' for years....do you speak in his behalf? So he can get out & go home to his loving family & unsuspecting neighbors?.....do you help set this man free?.....how will you sleep if he returns with a new victim?......
 

doublejj

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SACRAMENTO — A janitor was found guilty Wednesday in the 1997 rape and murder of a popular high school senior, a crime that prompted California legislators to tighten employee screening and prevent hiring felons convicted of serious crimes.
Alex Dale Thomas, a convicted felon and Los Angeles gang member, now faces a Sept. 18 hearing to decide if he will be sentenced to death for the daytime slaying of Michelle Montoya at a rural Sacramento County high school.

Montoya, a popular 18-year-old at Rio Linda High School, was discovered dead in the wood shop, her throat slashed. Thomas, on parole for manslaughter at the time of the crime, was arrested by police within hours.
Somber friends and members of Montoya's family said they gained a small measure of vindication from the verdict by a jury in Sonoma County, where the trial was moved because of intense publicity about the case in the Sacramento media.
"Justice was served today," said Montoya's mother, Pam Schleeter. "But it's still a big hole in our hearts. It's still a loss. It still doesn't bring her back."
Schleeter said she believes in capital punishment and believes that her daughter's murderer "doesn't deserve to live."
"Michelle went through a lot at his hands before she died," Schleeter said. "She was my best friend, and he took her away from me."
The trial opened in early July with a surprise twist as defense attorney Bradley Holmes admitted that Thomas had killed Montoya, but argued that they engaged in consensual sex. The tactic was designed to keep Thomas off death row. If he had avoided the special circumstances crime of rape, Thomas would have at worst faced life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Thomas had worked at the school, which draws from a mix of rural and suburban communities in the northwest corner of Sacramento County, for three days before his arrest. Although he was a parolee at the time, he was allowed to start the job before a background check was completed.
A member of the 107th Street Hoover Crips gang in Los Angeles, Thomas also had served time for armed robbery at Folsom prison. In a job interview with school officials, Thomas covered a "107" tattoo on his forehead with cosmetics. He was hired under a state law that allowed districts to employ temporary and substitute workers for nonteaching positions before criminal background checks were completed.
The shocking murder on a school campus prompted the Legislature to push through new state laws banning the hiring of felons and requiring completed background checks of school employees before they go to work.
Schleeter said she has gotten some solace out of the legislation and the reality that it may help save other lives.
"Michelle is living forever through those laws, protecting other kids so no felons can work in the schools," she said. "But it's pretty bad you have to give up a life to pass a law."
 

Stillbuzzin

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Just to keep things in proper perspective, woody was correct....this was no kindergarten class. Most of these guys were well past dirtsurfr caliber.....I have a question for the group. What would you do if you found out one of your inmate workers, had committed some of the most heinous & vicious crimes imaginable?....let's say they have been assigned to your work crew, what would you do?...............there's an inmate at Folsom, that carjacked a young couple & their infant baby, for their car. He drove them to some rural property and shot & killed the husband as soon as he got out of the car, right in front of the wife. Then he put the baby into a microwave oven & video'ed her reaction as he turned it on and cooked her baby....He then raped & tortured her to death over the several days it took her to succumb...the detectives that investigated the case (and watched the videos) needed counseling...he cut a deal to avoid the death penalty. Because he was abused as a child & because they believe there may be more victims, they agreed.....he's doing life at Folsom........this is no kindergarten class, is right.....what would you do?.....
I know exactly who you are talking about. I want say in case you are gonna tell later
 

Stillbuzzin

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JJ you and I talked about a friend of mine who died at Flosom I have another friend who I suspect is their. I cant find him due to the crimes he commited. Did you know a man with the nickname Rivi??I will give you his full name if you think you know him,
 

benton OG

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I am very interested doublejj... keep em comming. The baby in the microwave thing made me want to smoke a joint badly...
 

doublejj

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JJ you and I talked about a friend of mine who died at Flosom I have another friend who I suspect is their. I cant find him due to the crimes he commited. Did you know a man with the nickname Rivi??I will give you his full name if you think you know him,
I remember bro.....but I can't say I know a Rivi.....let me think about it a minute.....do you have anything else about him, I might remember?......Let me give it some thought.....
 

doublejj

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Back in 1992 Edward James Olmos filmed a movie about prison life at Folsom: "American Me". It was filmed in and around the prison factory & the #3 building housing unit at Folsom. For the movie they brought in a few actors, but most of the inmates were played by actual inmates as extras..... The movie company wanted to use 2 of the cells on the ground floor as the primary cell scenes. This is where it's started to get a little weird..... The inmates that lived in those cells were "OG's"; lifers. They would only agree to move out if they paid them as extras during the entire filming...but that's just the start.....The cells were "Too real looking"(dingy), so they painted them before filming. They were actually using dozens of inmate "extras" when they all went "on strike" about 1/2 way thru filming......The rest of the inmates in the building didn't like it that their cells weren't also painted!...after a couple of days delay in shooting, the film studio agreed to pay the tab to have all the cells painted!..........The movie was about inmate Rodolfo Cadena & 'La Eme' the Mexican Mafia...and it's roots in Folsom Prison.......Well the Eme weren't too please with the movie when it was released & they murdered several people involved with the film soon after it came out...........The real Mexican Mafia continues to revere Cadena and was enraged by the film, as the Cadena character is portrayed as having been raped as a juvenile ward of the court at the beginning of his foray into the criminal justice system and ultimately stabbed to death by his own followers at the end of his criminal career. Eme godfather Joe "Pegleg" Morgan allegedly attempted to extort money from Olmos, the director and lead actor of the film. An Eme member-turned-informant raised the possibility of putting out a contract on him... Court documents show that Olmos was a victim in one extortion count contained in a 33-count federal indictment. According to reportage by CBS News weekly 60 Minutes, three consultants on this film were later murdered because of the depiction of a homosexual rape scene which offended the Mexican Mafia's internal code of "ethics." The first killing occurred 12 days after the movie's premiere when one of the film's consultants Charles "Charlie Brown" Manriquez, who was a member of La Eme, was slain in Ramona Gardens, L.A.'s oldest public housing project. Another well-known person of East Los Angeles and paid consultant to the film, 49 year old grandmother Ana Lizarraga commonly known as "The Gang Lady", was murdered when she was gunned down in her driveway unloading groceries. A federal indictment accused La Eme of ordering the 1992 murder of Ana Lizarraga..........like I said....No good deed, at Folsom......
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;uS-kGp0Fjho]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uS-kGp0Fjho[/video]
 

srh88

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Never did, the one thing I did to pass the time was help guys get their GED.
And read alot of books.
thats where i got my g.e.d.... i told the C.O's i was taking the courses outside before i got booked.. i did awesome, but my reading and thinking really was way better after a little in jail.. spades, chess and books.. lots of quick thinking.. my essay question was, "Why do you think people should stay busy?".. something along those lines. pretty funny getting that question in jail.
 

doublejj

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Back in the 1990's the suits & lawyers in CDCR Hdqrt in Sacramento decided it would be a good idea to integrate the level #4 prison yards. The yards had been kept segregated because at this level, they just don't mix well. So they penned "The Integrated Yard Policy". Everyone in the prison knew this was a bad idea but they started it at level #4 Corcoran Prison. What ensued was mayhem....By the time it was rescinded, there were over 50 inmates shot, 13 killed, & 8 CO's were brought up on murder charges in Federal court....for enforcing the "Integrated Yard Policy". The CO's were all acquitted because the were only following orders to mix the yards. It was fucked up for everybody. Sometimes the guy's at the top can paint you into some pretty dark corners......................................................................... Trial of Guards in Brawls, Killing at Corcoran Opens


April 15, 2000|From Associated Press


FRESNO — Eight prison guards purposely invited violent brawls by putting rival gang members together in a cramped recreation yard and waiting for them to fight, a prosecutor told a federal jury Friday.
"This unit had over five times more fights than every other unit and every other shift," Assistant U.S. Atty. John Conklin said in his opening statement.

Four of the guards from the maximum security Corcoran State Prison between Fresno and Bakersfield face possible life sentences for the shooting of an inmate during a 1994 brawl.
The other four face up to 10 years in prison if convicted of conspiring to deny prisoners the right to be free from cruel and unusual punishment in connection with another melee.
"The defendants had a duty to prevent these fights from occurring and they did not," Conklin said.
When sending rival inmates into the yard together, the guards knew the prisoners were bound by an unwritten code of conduct to attack or face retaliation from their own gang, Conklin said. "You will learn that these fights were anything but voluntary," he said.
Defense attorneys said the guards were simply following a well-known prison system practice called the "integrated yard policy" that ultimately led to the prisoner fights.
The policy required guards to place inmates from different races and different geographic locations in exercise yards together.
"Every time every inmate went to the yard, there was the possibility of a fight," defense attorney Michael Rains said during his opening statement.
Rains is representing Officer Christopher Bethea, the man who fired the shot that killed inmate Preston Tate during a brawl on April 2, 1994.
In addition, the defense will argue that inmates in Corcoran's notorious Security Housing Unit are the "worst of the worst" and can't be trusted to mingle with other prisoners without fighting...............and integration sounded like such a good idea!
 

dirtsurfr

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.......do you guy's still think Prison Industries been abusing these poor souls, like "chickens in a cage", by making license plates?........btw I think KFC chickens receive a more humane death than these guy's victims received.....and there are over 700 "lifers" at Folsom........
Oh heavens NO!! How many guys did you meet in Vietnam that was there for a bag of weed or a roach??
What was the offer?? 2-3 years prison or 2 tours in Vietnam?? Shit noting wrong there.
They are as corrupt as the criminals.
Fighting fire for $5 a day
Working a 8 hr day for a Dollar??
It's all about taking advantage of your fellow man. Bring back the death penalty.
 

doublejj

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JJ you and I talked about a friend of mine who died at Flosom I have another friend who I suspect is their. I cant find him due to the crimes he commited. Did you know a man with the nickname Rivi??I will give you his full name if you think you know him,
He's in Florida state prison, trying to get his sentence reduced for cooperating with authorities.......he's one bad motherfucker......
 

doublejj

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Just to set the record straight, in 25 years inside folsom I never hung paper on any inmate for lightweight rule violations (drugs, pruno, tattoo, gambling)...ect. we didn't have time for that lightweight shit. It would be like handing out speeding tickets at the Indi500, it's all you'd have time to do & never get anything else done. If I took the time to write you up.....you really fucked something up!...my inmates all knew that & they would clown an inmate & give him NO sympathy if I had to hang paper on him. It was usually only after several warnings, & I hardly ever wrote any rule violations....I had some control over minor rule violations.....now if your gonna stab someone right in front of me......I have to report it.......the inmates knew how far they could push me.......
 
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