Trichomes....cloudy to amber ration?

NietzscheKeen

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I've heard that many times, but is that coming from a reliable source or is it just people repeating what they have heard.
Have you experimented or had experiences with it to know if this is true? Or do you know anyone that has? Anecdotal evidence is acceptable, I feel, in these circumstances. Yeah?
 

NietzscheKeen

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I have harvested three plants. One was completely clear and the two others were just starting to become cloudy. The clear one got compliments on it. I've tried to get more info, but stoners can be morons sometimes, lol. They said it was better than midgrade, but not the high grade stuff. Chalk that up to my inexperience I'm sure.
I did notice that they thought buds from the same batch that had cured for a week or three longer were much stronger than the first. This is all the information I can offer right now. I will try to get some better reviews if anyone is interested.
 

Jeffdogg

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The two main components in the marijuana plant (that we know of) which cause its effects on humans are THC(Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD(Cannabidiol). Some people only pay attention to THC when talking about marijuana "potency" but the story is actually a little bit more complicated than that. As we are studying cannabis, we're learning that CBD actually plays a much bigger role in the overall cannabis experience than we originally thought. A recent study indicates that cannabis buds which are high in CBD do nott cause the memory impairment which is normally cited as the biggest side effect of smoking or using cannabis. This is big news for patients who would like to use cannabis but do not want any memory side effects. It's becomming apparent that in order to understand the whole picture about the effects of cannabis, we will need to learn about both THC and CBD.

THC is the main psychoactive component in marijuana buds. THC appears to help relieve pain and is neuroprotective(helps keep brain from degenerating over time). THC mimics the action of anandamide, which is a naturally occurring cannabinoid in the brain. THC is thought to be the cause of the following effects of cannabis: relaxation, euphoria, altered space-time perception and appetite stimulation. What does it mean when marijuana buds are "17%" THC? It means that of all the cannabinoids present in the plant, 17% of them are THC. Having a high THC content by itself does not necessarily mean that the marijuana is great. It's important to look at the whole experience caused by the plant which includes another substance known as CBD. You want to find a strain and prepare your plants to cause the effects you're looking for.
CBD was once thought not to affect the subjective affect of marijuana, but further studies have shown that it actually does have an affect. CBD appears to relieve convulsions, some types of inflammation, anxiety, and nausea. CBD has also been show to help stop the growth of cancer. CBD is also effective as an anti-psychotic for people suffering from schizophrenia. Marijuana buds that have a higher amount of CBD are associated with a more sedative (stoned couchloock, Jeffdogg saying this ) or calming effect. Cannabis buds that contain high amounts of CBD are a perfect treatment for insomnia or for treatment late at night.
The best results seems to come from using marijuana that has a mix of both THC and CBD. When used by itself, THC can cause disorientation and anxiety. CBD seems to prevent these effects. In fact, a new drug, Sativex, was recently released which contains 50% each of THC and CBD. Sativex seems to be very well tolerated so far and doesn't have many of the side effects associated with Marinol, which was made of 100% THC.
The cannabis strain that you're growing will largely determine the amounts of THC and CBD produced. The genes of a plant play a big role so it's very important to find a strain which has the effects that you are looking for. More and more seed banks online are offering information about both THC and CBD. When looking at seeds online (I highly recommend Attitude Seedbank), check if the product information for the strain says anything about CBD and THC content. If you're not sure which strain to get, I highly recommend any strain which has any sort of "Afghan" or "Afghani" in it's lineage. Afghan strains are generally easy to grow, have great yields, have high CBD content. Therefore cannabis strains that are part-Afghan are usually a great choice for beginning growers looking for a cannabis strain with great medicinal value.
Another way to help control the amount of THC and CBD in your plant is to choose the right time to harvest your plant. You can pick the right time to harvest if you watch the trichomes (also known as crystals or resin glands, basically, it's the glittery stuff your see on your marijuana buds). You tend to get the highest overall THC levels if you harvest your plant when all the trichomes are milky/white, or they are half milky and have translucent.

The picture above shows a close-up of the trichomes of a White Rhino cannabis bud. The trichromes are a mix of clear and milky/white in this picture. You can also see that there are lots of new white pistols/hairs. Some people might like to harvest at this point. Personally, I would wait another month or for the buds to mature before harvesting. I'm looking for amber trichomes and all brown hairs. Buds which are harvested later (3-4 monthes into flowering) tend to have higher levels of CBD and are better medicine for relaxation and treating insomnia.
If you wait to harvest your plant until 50% or more the trichomes are amber colored, then you will get a final result that has a bit less THC, but more CBD. A simpler method to determine when to harvest is to just wait until the buds have only 10% or less total white pistols/hairs. You will notice that your cannabis buds keeps growing more and more white hairs over the course of the flowering stages, but eventually (it feels like forever) the buds will stop growing new white hairs and 90% or more of the hairs will have darkened. It's hard but waiting to harvest until your cannabis plant has run it's whole life course will maximize your CBD levels. This often means keeping your cannabis in the flowering stage for a full 3-4 months. Many growers like to harvest earlier than that, but if you allow your cannabis to run its full course, you will maximize your CBD levels and your yields.



Nuff said yet?


http://www.growweedeasy.com/how-do-THC-and-CBD-relate-to-cannabis-potency
 

simisimis

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ThC reach's a point of degradation, thats when the trichs start turning amber, the THC then starts breaking down to CBD (which give you the couch lock high) It will get stronger the longer you let the trichs turn amber.
lol dude... wtf? THC does NOT degrade into CBD. THC degrades into CBN... CBD is in genetics.
of course harvesting is a personal preference and there is no one truth in the world. but i thought u guys were debating about peak thc level and studies have shown that THC passes peak potency when trichs turn cloudy, and degrades when amber...

my guess this strong "all cloudy plus some amber" position is comming from those who like that sleepy mellow feeling u get from CBN. some people smoke to get high, some - to get stoned..
 

BackyardBuds

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lol dude... wtf? THC does NOT degrade into CBD. THC degrades into CBN... CBD is in genetics.
of course harvesting is a personal preference and there is no one truth in the world. but i thought u guys were debating about peak thc level and studies have shown that THC passes peak potency when trichs turn cloudy, and degrades when amber...

my guess this strong "all cloudy plus some amber" position is comming from those who like that sleepy mellow feeling u get from CBN. some people smoke to get high, some - to get stoned..
Actually, I started this thread to get some ideas, info and others personal preferences on when to harvest. I certainly wasn't expecting the discussion to go in this direction. Needless to say, I think I got the info I was looking for. Ultimately, it seems that everyone can agree that harvesting during a certain point in the plants window of peak potency and/or maturity comes down to our own preference.

To those of you that were respectful to each other and myself....Thank you for your insight!!
 

Kite High

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The two main components in the marijuana plant (that we know of) which cause its effects on humans are THC(Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD(Cannabidiol). Some people only pay attention to THC when talking about marijuana "potency" but the story is actually a little bit more complicated than that. As we are studying cannabis, we're learning that CBD actually plays a much bigger role in the overall cannabis experience than we originally thought. A recent study indicates that cannabis buds which are high in CBD do nott cause the memory impairment which is normally cited as the biggest side effect of smoking or using cannabis. This is big news for patients who would like to use cannabis but do not want any memory side effects. It's becomming apparent that in order to understand the whole picture about the effects of cannabis, we will need to learn about both THC and CBD.

THC is the main psychoactive component in marijuana buds. THC appears to help relieve pain and is neuroprotective(helps keep brain from degenerating over time). THC mimics the action of anandamide, which is a naturally occurring cannabinoid in the brain. THC is thought to be the cause of the following effects of cannabis: relaxation, euphoria, altered space-time perception and appetite stimulation. What does it mean when marijuana buds are "17%" THC? It means that of all the cannabinoids present in the plant, 17% of them are THC. Having a high THC content by itself does not necessarily mean that the marijuana is great. It's important to look at the whole experience caused by the plant which includes another substance known as CBD. You want to find a strain and prepare your plants to cause the effects you're looking for.
CBD was once thought not to affect the subjective affect of marijuana, but further studies have shown that it actually does have an affect. CBD appears to relieve convulsions, some types of inflammation, anxiety, and nausea. CBD has also been show to help stop the growth of cancer. CBD is also effective as an anti-psychotic for people suffering from schizophrenia. Marijuana buds that have a higher amount of CBD are associated with a more sedative (stoned couchloock, Jeffdogg saying this ) or calming effect. Cannabis buds that contain high amounts of CBD are a perfect treatment for insomnia or for treatment late at night.
The best results seems to come from using marijuana that has a mix of both THC and CBD. When used by itself, THC can cause disorientation and anxiety. CBD seems to prevent these effects. In fact, a new drug, Sativex, was recently released which contains 50% each of THC and CBD. Sativex seems to be very well tolerated so far and doesn't have many of the side effects associated with Marinol, which was made of 100% THC.
The cannabis strain that you're growing will largely determine the amounts of THC and CBD produced. The genes of a plant play a big role so it's very important to find a strain which has the effects that you are looking for. More and more seed banks online are offering information about both THC and CBD. When looking at seeds online (I highly recommend Attitude Seedbank), check if the product information for the strain says anything about CBD and THC content. If you're not sure which strain to get, I highly recommend any strain which has any sort of "Afghan" or "Afghani" in it's lineage. Afghan strains are generally easy to grow, have great yields, have high CBD content. Therefore cannabis strains that are part-Afghan are usually a great choice for beginning growers looking for a cannabis strain with great medicinal value.
Another way to help control the amount of THC and CBD in your plant is to choose the right time to harvest your plant. You can pick the right time to harvest if you watch the trichomes (also known as crystals or resin glands, basically, it's the glittery stuff your see on your marijuana buds). You tend to get the highest overall THC levels if you harvest your plant when all the trichomes are milky/white, or they are half milky and have translucent.

The picture above shows a close-up of the trichomes of a White Rhino cannabis bud. The trichromes are a mix of clear and milky/white in this picture. You can also see that there are lots of new white pistols/hairs. Some people might like to harvest at this point. Personally, I would wait another month or for the buds to mature before harvesting. I'm looking for amber trichomes and all brown hairs. Buds which are harvested later (3-4 monthes into flowering) tend to have higher levels of CBD and are better medicine for relaxation and treating insomnia.
If you wait to harvest your plant until 50% or more the trichomes are amber colored, then you will get a final result that has a bit less THC, but more CBD. A simpler method to determine when to harvest is to just wait until the buds have only 10% or less total white pistols/hairs. You will notice that your cannabis buds keeps growing more and more white hairs over the course of the flowering stages, but eventually (it feels like forever) the buds will stop growing new white hairs and 90% or more of the hairs will have darkened. It's hard but waiting to harvest until your cannabis plant has run it's whole life course will maximize your CBD levels. This often means keeping your cannabis in the flowering stage for a full 3-4 months. Many growers like to harvest earlier than that, but if you allow your cannabis to run its full course, you will maximize your CBD levels and your yields.



Nuff said yet?


http://www.growweedeasy.com/how-do-THC-and-CBD-relate-to-cannabis-potency
apologies but CBD does not come from thc degradation and CBD REDUCES the effects of thc by blocking it from attaching to the receptors. I have a real hard time giving your words any merit when such a blatant erroneous claim is asserted.

Terpenes influence the high beneficially. CBD hurts the high but has some effects some enjoy. But when to harvest for CBD content and when to harvest for thc content do not usually coincide as evidenced in my lab results.
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-267/NM_BD16_12_28_12.pdf

http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-259/NM_Z74_11_16_12.pdf
See it is a particular scientific set of of facts. And surely you can see I can prove I know what I am saying with results from what I grew. Not what somebody else said.
 

simisimis

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Actually, I started this thread to get some ideas, info and others personal preferences on when to harvest. I certainly wasn't expecting the discussion to go in this direction. Needless to say, I think I got the info I was looking for. Ultimately, it seems that everyone can agree that harvesting during a certain point in the plants window of peak potency and/or maturity comes down to our own preference.

To those of you that were respectful to each other and myself....Thank you for your insight!!
I'd say personal preference comes after you understand how that THC, CBD are working with your body. Then, you get the knowledge about the timing of those cannabinoids and there you have you personal preference when to chop.
People are very helpful around here and everybody has their own or their friends opinion which they want to share. Stick around, read, read, read and eventually you will see what is true and what are "undying hypes".

And if simple thread turns into debates it's even better, cause only from discussions you get to see the whole picture or sometimes even get more confused if people start fighting instead of debating lol, cause everyone seems to be trying to defend their truth not even hear the other.
Sorry if my input seemed offensive to anyone, it wasn't.

Happy growing, cause it's not only about smoking ;)
 

Jeffdogg

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lol dude... wtf? THC does NOT degrade into CBD. THC degrades into CBN... CBD is in genetics.
of course harvesting is a personal preference and there is no one truth in the world. but i thought u guys were debating about peak thc level and studies have shown that THC passes peak potency when trichs turn cloudy, and degrades when amber...

my guess this strong "all cloudy plus some amber" position is comming from those who like that sleepy mellow feeling u get from CBN. some people smoke to get high, some - to get stoned..
Am i not allowed to place the wrong letter on there? Me putting that in so late at night being half burnt out? Notica i stopped replying shortly after that? Thx for that though, must be nice to not make any mistakes ever :)
 

simisimis

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Am i not allowed to place the wrong letter on there? Me putting that in so late at night being half burnt out? Notica i stopped replying shortly after that? Thx for that though, must be nice to not make any mistakes ever :)
hehe yeah man, that's why my reaction was a bit overwhelmed, did not expect you to say that, just wanted to make sure some newbies will not go out of this thread parroting that, cause I've seen that already quite a few times..
About not making mistakes I have no clue how to do that, I myself usually spit out wrong word because of not doublechecking if that's correct.
Cheers
 

NietzscheKeen

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In regards to THC and CBD, I saw a lame documentary where doctors gave a lady thc and cbd and she had a pleasant high. Later they gave her pure THC and she had a horrible time. It seems that either moderate levels of pure THC or higher levels or THC with moderately low levels of CBD would be ideal.

A few years ago I was listening to Science Friday and the guest mentioned CBDs reducing the "high" that the thc gives, which is why many legit doctors that support medical cannabis also recommend I higher cdb level, to reduce the effects of the "high" associated with cannabis.
 

Jeffdogg

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hehe yeah man, that's why my reaction was a bit overwhelmed, did not expect you to say that, just wanted to make sure some newbies will not go out of this thread parroting that, cause I've seen that already quite a few times..
About not making mistakes I have no clue how to do that, I myself usually spit out wrong word because of not doublechecking if that's correct.
Cheers
Its cool bud, this is a marijuana growing forum most of us are fucked up most of the day, in other posts i made in the past it is said correctly mate.. Thats exactly what happened to me, it was late and was burnt out and didnt double check lmao. Stoners aren't perfect :D
 

Jeffdogg

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Actually, I started this thread to get some ideas, info and others personal preferences on when to harvest. I certainly wasn't expecting the discussion to go in this direction. Needless to say, I think I got the info I was looking for. Ultimately, it seems that everyone can agree that harvesting during a certain point in the plants window of peak potency and/or maturity comes down to our own preference.

To those of you that were respectful to each other and myself....Thank you for your insight!!
When it comes down to it bro its your decision, all you can do is hear us out and go with what sounds good to you or research into what we said and do some trial and error. IMO I love trial and error, it seems to surprise you in bad ways sometimes but others in really good ways and in the end its more satisfying getting a hands on conclusion to your question then reading about an answer :)
 

Jeffdogg

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apologies but CBD does not come from thc degradation and CBD REDUCES the effects of thc by blocking it from attaching to the receptors. I have a real hard time giving your words any merit when such a blatant erroneous claim is asserted.

Terpenes influence the high beneficially. CBD hurts the high but has some effects some enjoy. But when to harvest for CBD content and when to harvest for thc content do not usually coincide as evidenced in my lab results.
http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-267/NM_BD16_12_28_12.pdf

http://library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1102675987015-259/NM_Z74_11_16_12.pdf
See it is a particular scientific set of of facts. And surely you can see I can prove I know what I am saying with results from what I grew. Not what somebody else said.
See thats not what this is about, its not about proving nothing because YOU cant prove crap. Your doing the same thing as me and linking and quoting other people you never met a day in your life. So lets take you theory with that Dr. guy. Well its on paper so HE MUST BE RIGHT. Well it also says on paper that marijuana is bad for your health and kills too, and Dr.'s say that so that must be true as well. My info came from REAL GROWERS not some random doctor trying to get a name.


And regarding the CBD thing its as i said to another person who completely understood.

Am i not allowed to place the wrong letter on there? Me putting that in so late at night being half burnt out? Notica i stopped replying shortly after that? Thx for that though, must be nice to not make any mistakes ever


I know you wont cause you would rather try to attak me cause i go against your beliefs but thats perfectly fine as I said before WE all are entitled to OUR OWN OPINIONS. And dont go saying that Dr. fact crap unless your will to tell us that Marijuana is IN FACT DANGEROUS to our health.... Lets let the OP decide instead of attacking people and trying to start a fight because we believe some Dr. is the god's gift when it comes to THC potency....


The OP is an intelligent person unlike some, he came to the conclusion that there can quite possibly be a window of peek potency from when trich's go translucent to the point of deg.
Thats what we call having an open mind. Not being narrow minded listening to some random Dr. and believeing that is the only acceptable answer..

Ive seen plenty of people exactly like you in these forums which is why i'm going to stop here. I knew better yesterday but still tried to help the OP by letting him see things differently. But you, your like talking to a chic that talks on the cell phone 24/7, you cant.... Nuff said and take care. :hug:
 

GrowinDad

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Forgettng about "flushing" meaning large amounts of water at any point grow to fix lockout, but rather to mean not adding nutes to your water for hte last week or two before harvest... And I have no opinion but am currently in the boat of "what do I do" as Harvest is about two weeks off for me at most :-). But I am using Dyna-Gro Their goal is to sell nutes. If there was no purpose in running the last two weeks without nutes, then why would their feednig chart recommend you don't use their product the last two weeks.
 

NietzscheKeen

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See thats not what this is about, its not about proving nothing because YOU cant prove crap. Your doing the same thing as me and linking and quoting other people you never met a day in your life. So lets take you theory with that Dr. guy. Well its on paper so HE MUST BE RIGHT. Well it also says on paper that marijuana is bad for your health and kills too, and Dr.'s say that so that must be true as well. My info came from REAL GROWERS not some random doctor trying to get a name.
Well, you typically don't manage to get a Dr. in front of your name if you are sloppy orlack academic and intellectual integrity, so I'd tend to believe the report. I haven't seen the ACTUAL report and sometimes people misunderstand the findings.

I'm kinda thinking THC and CBD levels may fall into the typical sine wave pattern. For instance Red= THC, Blue=CBD, etc.

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Jeffdogg

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Well, you typically don't manage to get a Dr. in front of your name if you are sloppy orlack academic and intellectual integrity, so I'd tend to believe the report. I haven't seen the ACTUAL report and sometimes people misunderstand the findings.
Yes your correct, but at the same time look at all the reports by Doctors claiming how dangerous marijuana is. I'm not saying the dudes wrong, just simply trying to give an example of why you shouldn't just go by that Dr.. How many years experience has this Dr. had cultivating marijuana. What strains has he grown? Also we need to keep in mind 1 extremely important thing. His results are based off marijuana with a THC value of 6% and BELOW (which he believes is a "high THC contect, you fucking kidding me 6% wont even get my dick hard..) meaning a low strain and most likely not a hybrid with vigor. How will they compare to a strain with a THC% of 20+? The strains are very different these days to where he only tested one. Theres lot of variables that can make his conclusion swing either way.

Also in his report and I quote

c) Cannabinoids decrease with aging of glands.
Not all of them.....

Cannabinol (CBN) is the primary product of THC degradation, and there is usually little of it in a fresh plant. CBN content increases as THC degrades
Does it not? Ok so theres one thing he was incorrect about im not gonna nit pick his study for the rest. Im just showing that just because it is a Dr. does not make it true. As I said theres plenty of Dr.s to this day Proving marijuana is dangerous to our health, I was reading one study where a doctor claims he is linking marijuana use to testicular cancer. So he must be right as well.

Men who smoke cannabis are at greater risk of testicular cancer, a new study suggests, but men who use cocaine may be at a lower risk from the disease.
Researchers have found a link between recreational cannabis use and an increased risk of developing subtypes of testicular cancer.
The findings say not only should marijuana users consider the risk in smoking the drug, but also doctors who administer it for therapeutic purposes in young male patients.

To see if recreational drug use might play a role, Doctor Victoria Cortessis, at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California looked at the history of recreational drug use in 163 young men diagnosed with testicular cancer and compared it with that of 292 healthy men of the same age and ethnicity.

The investigators found that men with a history of using marijuana were twice as likely to have subtypes of testicular cancer called non-seminoma and mixed germ cell tumours.
These tumours usually occur in younger men and carry a somewhat worse prognosis than the seminoma subtype.
The study's findings confirm those from two previous reports on a potential link between cannabis use and testicular cancer.
Dr Cortessis said: 'We do not know what marijuana triggers in the testis that may lead to carcinogenesis, although we speculate that it may be acting through the endocannabinoid system - the cellular network that responds to the active ingredient in marijuana - since this system has been shown to be important in the formation of sperm.'




But then theres another study proving marijuana bring cancer cells back into remission

Biochemist Dennis Hill, who cured his stage 4 prostate cancer with Cannabis oil, explains how it works
This article was recently mentioned in the Metro Times Detroit
Most recent update from Dennis Hill (2.28.13):

  • My progress is good. Asked my doctor the meaning of my last three PSAs. He said: The PSA has not risen over 2.4 in nine months, we can presume the cancer is in remission. Music to my ears. Cannabinoid extract wins again. Huzzah!
Previous update (12.8.12):

  • After six months using cannabis extract, a prostate biopsy confirmed the cancer was gone, in February 2010. Twenty months later, biopsy showed cancer had returned. I have reinstated cannabis extract and PSA is declining. I expect the cancer to be gone soon, just as it did previously.
On the need to decarboxylate medicine:

  • “My co-op hash oil had not been decarboxylated. THCA does not fit the CB-1 receptor that is required to send seramide to the work of apoptosis.” (This is why the cancer made a reappearance)How to decarboxylate
Retrospective on Cannabis and Cancer – Dennis Hill
Three years ago, after a prostate biopsy, I was given the diagnosis of aggressive Stage III adenocarcinoma. I didn’t know what to do. The urologist made appointments for me to start radiation, and maybe chemo. Then a friend told me cannabis cures cancer. It just so happened that the first human trials of cannabis treatment of astrocytomas (inoperable brain cancer), were published with encouraging results. So I decided; rather than die from the medical treatment, I would do the cannabis cure. Now… where to get some. There was no dispensary in the area, but a friend made me cannabis butter, so I took that, up to tolerance. In three months the primary cancer was gone, only minor metastatic lesions were left. At that point I found a supplier for Rick Simpson oil and killed off the metastases in the next three months. Now I just take a maintenance dose of locally produced hash oil that is 1:1 THC:CBD with about a 30% potency. This will certainly keep me clear of cancer, anywhere, for ever.
My point in telling this story is the fact that in the face of advanced aggressive cancer, all I had was very weak cannabutter, but it was enough to eliminate the primary tumor. Now there are strains of 95% THC. But is this necessary? If you have cancer and want to pursue the cannabis treatment, any at all will be good. More important than extreme potency, is balance between THC and CBD. If you can get high potency, great. If not, common potencies will work perfectly.
Finally, if you choose cannabinoid treatment, start small, then increase dosage as rapidly as tolerable. To kill cancer you have to hit it hard, be conscientious about your treatment. Cannabis does no harm to the body, it is a metabolic support for the immune system.


Summary:
Here are the basics, based on my own experience with cancer and cannabis oil extract.

  • Get Rick Simpson formula oil; including the important decarboxylation step to convert THCA to THC.
  • If possible, use 1:1 THC:CBD, as THC kills the cancer, CBD kills the cancer’s ability to metastasize.
  • Take as much as possible; the way to kill cancer is to hit it very hard. Start very small to acclimate to the oil properties, then keep increasing the dose as tolerable.
  • Take a large dose before bed, then a lighter dose during the day, to keep the pressure on the cancer.

This is how I managed my prostate cancer to have a successful resolution. ~ Dennis Hill (4.11.13)
See we all have doctors saying one thing or another. I'd rather trust the info of a fellow grower who has had years upon years upon years of experience instead of a couple doctors trying to play Mr.Wizard with a drug they never even smoked..


As i said before the best way to solve this is either have someone buy a home test kit and journal it up. Or we can just let the OP decide instead of going to war to prove who is right and who is wrong.
 

Kite High

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See thats not what this is about, its not about proving nothing because YOU cant prove crap. Your doing the same thing as me and linking and quoting other people you never met a day in your life. So lets take you theory with that Dr. guy. Well its on paper so HE MUST BE RIGHT. Well it also says on paper that marijuana is bad for your health and kills too, and Dr.'s say that so that must be true as well. My info came from REAL GROWERS not some random doctor trying to get a name.


And regarding the CBD thing its as i said to another person who completely understood.

Am i not allowed to place the wrong letter on there? Me putting that in so late at night being half burnt out? Notica i stopped replying shortly after that? Thx for that though, must be nice to not make any mistakes ever


I know you wont cause you would rather try to attak me cause i go against your beliefs but thats perfectly fine as I said before WE all are entitled to OUR OWN OPINIONS. And dont go saying that Dr. fact crap unless your will to tell us that Marijuana is IN FACT DANGEROUS to our health.... Lets let the OP decide instead of attacking people and trying to start a fight because we believe some Dr. is the god's gift when it comes to THC potency....


The OP is an intelligent person unlike some, he came to the conclusion that there can quite possibly be a window of peek potency from when trich's go translucent to the point of deg.
Thats what we call having an open mind. Not being narrow minded listening to some random Dr. and believeing that is the only acceptable answer..

Ive seen plenty of people exactly like you in these forums which is why i'm going to stop here. I knew better yesterday but still tried to help the OP by letting him see things differently. But you, your like talking to a chic that talks on the cell phone 24/7, you cant.... Nuff said and take care. :hug:
Blah blah blah.
 

Kite High

Well-Known Member
Yes your correct, but at the same time look at all the reports by Doctors claiming how dangerous marijuana is. I'm not saying the dudes wrong, just simply trying to give an example of why you shouldn't just go by that Dr.. How many years experience has this Dr. had cultivating marijuana. What strains has he grown? Also we need to keep in mind 1 extremely important thing. His results are based off marijuana with a THC value of 6% and BELOW (which he believes is a "high THC contect, you fucking kidding me 6% wont even get my dick hard..) meaning a low strain and most likely not a hybrid with vigor. How will they compare to a strain with a THC% of 20+? The strains are very different these days to where he only tested one. Theres lot of variables that can make his conclusion swing either way.

Also in his report and I quote



Not all of them.....



Does it not? Ok so theres one thing he was incorrect about im not gonna nit pick his study for the rest. Im just showing that just because it is a Dr. does not make it true. As I said theres plenty of Dr.s to this day Proving marijuana is dangerous to our health, I was reading one study where a doctor claims he is linking marijuana use to testicular cancer. So he must be right as well.



But then theres another study proving marijuana bring cancer cells back into remission



See we all have doctors saying one thing or another. I'd rather trust the info of a fellow grower who has had years upon years upon years of experience instead of a couple doctors trying to play Mr.Wizard with a drug they never even smoked..


As i said before the best way to solve this is either have someone buy a home test kit and journal it up. Or we can just let the OP decide instead of going to war to prove who is right and who is wrong.
I already posted lab results but you ignore them in favor of a request to do home testing. Oh yeah that's better. Have a wonderful existence on your lil planet.
 
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