How to make real black hash ?

jamezsr

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some users say THC 95% others 99%
i test all the time my strains , black and blonde hash honey oil , wax and my blonde chatter
the most i got in strains buddha's sister 29% thc honey oil , wax and my blonde chatter up to 71% thc black and blonde hash 55% thc
so yesterday i asked the guy in the lab
is there anything has 95 or 99% thc
he said he never saw that or heard about it
 

Fenian Brotherhood

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So... You asked this guy who(obviously)Has Tested every single piece of Hash/Oil.. And because he hasn't seen it, or heard about it.. It must be true? Huh......


Well I can tell you this, in 2011 there was a Cup Awarded to the "Most Potent" Strain of that year.. Which was Silver Ghost Train or whatever the fuck? ANYWAYS, it tested at 28.7% THC....

During that Same Time, I Knew(Still Do) People that own their own dispensaries, and grow their own shit... Which was already in the High 30s percentile

Point is, just because it's not on record, or it's not in High Times(Haha) Doesn't mean it doesn't exsist
 

Sunbiz1

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A proper butane extraction yields the most potent stuff possible and since its a solvent (rather than mechanical) extraction it also is the most efficient extraction, capturing most available cannabinoids. Done right, this product isn't really "hash", but rather a viscous oil that many call "honey oil".

Dry ice kief done right is potent, and probably the most tasty of the products, since it retains the highest concentrations of terpenes, but its also a pretty inefficient extraction, with the possibility of leaf contamination if done too vigorously.

IMO, quality is more important than absolute potency.
TY,

I've experienced the agitating too harshly w/dry ice results, and a lot of instructional videos show folks shaking 5 gals like they are mixing paint. Once the green contaminates the kief, it's ruined...cannot be pressed and the obvious chlorophyll taste is awful. So, now I have been instructed to swirl the ice like cognac so ice never comes off the screen.
 

Jogro

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Originally Posted by Jogro
A proper butane extraction yields the most potent stuff possible and since its a solvent (rather than mechanical) extraction it also is the most efficient extraction, capturing most available cannabinoids. Done right, this product isn't really "hash", but rather a viscous oil that many call "honey oil".
No true at all. I.pull more doing icewax then i ever did with bho. With bho its a 10% return. With ice wax I get a 20% -25% return. But I do pure organics and use cmh led and par t5 and get the frostiest buds and leaves ever.
If you want to get a fair comparison of extraction efficiency, you have to do lab quantitative THC measurement. Its because even pure trichrome heads contain waxes, terpenes, and other things that aren't cannabinoids. Simple weight comparison doesn't tell the whole story.

Also, done right, a solvent based extraction will pull out all the cannabinoids available, including from broken trichrome heads, and within leaf material, something that can't be done with conventional mechanical separation.

Proper bho is too.much work and costly.
It wouldn't be if cannabis were legal, but otherwise, I completely agree with you on this, that's why I emphasized "proper" BHO.

As you say, its simply not possible/practical to do this at home, because chemically pure butane is effectively unavailable to the public, and most of the people playing with this aren't using lab grade equipment.

Incidentally, it is OK to run butane through reagent grade stainless steel; you don't necessarily need glass. Also, you can make just as good, if not better honey oil using hexane or CO2; butane isn't the only way to do a high-end solvent extraction, it just happens to be the most popular way for do-it-home tinkerers.

Like i said i get more with ice wax and I prefer ice wax over bho. Its much cleaner and healthier. Even dispensaires cannot legally sell bho due to the chemical content. My ice wax looks like bho and melts the same but its not. Ice wax is more potent and much tastier. Tastes like the buds. But better. Good water is free and you only have to pay for bubble bags once.
Well, just to be clear, CA has banned the unlicensed manufacture of ALL chemical extracts, not just those made with butane. That doesn't mean you can't SELL them, and my understanding is that these can still be found in some dispensaries (maybe they shouldn't be, but that's a separate issue). BHO is sold legally in WA dispensaries and other places, just not in CA. Bubble bags do eventually wear out, though good ones will last a long time.

How much "safer" wax is vs BHO is also debatable, I think. Yeah, chemical residues probably aren't good for you, but if the BHO is made right (again. . . that's key. . .most people doing this are using sh#$ty lighter fuel butane, not pure butane) it shouldn't contain anything particularly toxic, and if there are any chemical residues at all, they should be in negligible amounts. IMO, by far the biggest danger with BHO is in the making of it.

All that said, I still agree with you. I also have no use for BHO and strongly prefer bubble/ice hash. IMO, if you're going to be making concentrates at home, water hash is by FAR the way to go. You'll do it safer, probably cheaper, and end up with a tastier better product.
 

bass1014

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nice harbor freight tools 6 ton shop press.. i have the same one .. but i don't press my hash. i do dry ice with a 220 micron bubble bag and never press it.. stays very blonde and taste just like the fruity herbs that i grow.. pressed my first few batches and it was turning colors and started to have a nasty taste to it so i just leave it nice and fluffy.. stays blonde and still taste like my weed.. keep in a mason jar for storage.. all that black chemical crap is for the birds, its stinks and taste like shit when burnt.. sticky,hard to handle and just plain nasty.. thats what the inside of your lungs look like..
 

jamezsr

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nice harbor freight tools 6 ton shop press.. i have the same one .. but i don't press my hash. i do dry ice with a 220 micron bubble bag and never press it.. stays very blonde and taste just like the fruity herbs that i grow.. pressed my first few batches and it was turning colors and started to have a nasty taste to it so i just leave it nice and fluffy.. stays blonde and still taste like my weed.. keep in a mason jar for storage.. all that black chemical crap is for the birds, its stinks and taste like shit when burnt.. sticky,hard to handle and just plain nasty.. thats what the inside of your lungs look like..
first its not 6 ton but its from harbor freight
doing kief with 220 micron means its all grass that's why taste like your weed
now i believe that all your black chemical is crap
good luck
 

suTraGrow

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some users say THC 95% others 99%
i test all the time my strains , black and blonde hash honey oil , wax and my blonde chatter
the most i got in strains buddha's sister 29% thc honey oil , wax and my blonde chatter up to 71% thc black and blonde hash 55% thc
so yesterday i asked the guy in the lab
is there anything has 95 or 99% thc
he said he never saw that or heard about it
Hmm, i call BS, if you got your stuff tested they would give you a data report sheet.
Can you post that? So in other words.
;)
pics or it didnt happen.jpeg
 

hyroot

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If you want to get a fair comparison of extraction efficiency, you have to do lab quantitative THC measurement. Its because even pure trichrome heads contain waxes, terpenes, and other things that aren't cannabinoids. Simple weight comparison doesn't tell the whole story.

Also, done right, a solvent based extraction will pull out all the cannabinoids available, including from broken trichrome heads, and within leaf material, something that can't be done with conventional mechanical separation.


It wouldn't be if cannabis were legal, but otherwise, I completely agree with you on this, that's why I emphasized "proper" BHO.

As you say, its simply not possible/practical to do this at home, because chemically pure butane is effectively unavailable to the public, and most of the people playing with this aren't using lab grade equipment.

Incidentally, it is OK to run butane through reagent grade stainless steel; you don't necessarily need glass. Also, you can make just as good, if not better honey oil using hexane or CO2; butane isn't the only way to do a high-end solvent extraction, it just happens to be the most popular way for do-it-home tinkerers.


Well, just to be clear, CA has banned the unlicensed manufacture of ALL chemical extracts, not just those made with butane. That doesn't mean you can't SELL them, and my understanding is that these can still be found in some dispensaries (maybe they shouldn't be, but that's a separate issue). BHO is sold legally in WA dispensaries and other places, just not in CA. Bubble bags do eventually wear out, though good ones will last a long time.

How much "safer" wax is vs BHO is also debatable, I think. Yeah, chemical residues probably aren't good for you, but if the BHO is made right (again. . . that's key. . .most people doing this are using sh#$ty lighter fuel butane, not pure butane) it shouldn't contain anything particularly toxic, and if there are any chemical residues at all, they should be in negligible amounts. IMO, by far the biggest danger with BHO is in the making of it.

All that said, I still agree with you. I also have no use for BHO and strongly prefer bubble/ice hash. IMO, if you're going to be making concentrates at home, water hash is by FAR the way to go. You'll do it safer, probably cheaper, and end up with a tastier better product.

co2 extraction wax and ice wax/ bubble hash is actually legal to sell in dispensaries. of the ones that are still open.. bho on the other hand is illegal to sell period. water freezes into ice is a chemical change but that does not make it a chemical.
terpenes actually can effect thc production and cannebinoids etc....
i do agree with everything else.

happy hash making
 

suTraGrow

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I explained how i make it and how much it was tested
now it will make no difference to me if you believed me or not and i will not lose sleep over it
In that case I put bud in a tube, blast it with butane, purge and vac the product and get 99.99.999% THC product

I also explained how i make it and how much it was tested at, does that mean its true?
 

jamezsr

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In that case I put bud in a tube, blast it with butane, purge and vac the product and get 99.99.999% THC product

I also explained how i make it and how much it was tested at, does that mean its true?
we are not in a competition over here and there are no reason for me and anyone to lie over here
i said before leafing topping the indoor plant will harvest in most plants about a lb and lil over
to many folks laughed and some of them do not even think i should leaf out the plant
so i created this thread to prove i am right
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/670921-how-get-best-your-plants-3.html
so now i cant prove to all ignorants like you that i am great grower and one from the best
and from you to believe that it will take 4 months more
just follow the thread
 

suTraGrow

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we are not in a competition over here and there are no reason for me and anyone to lie over here
i said before leafing topping the indoor plant will harvest in most plants about a lb and lil over
to many folks laughed and some of them do not even think i should leaf out the plant
so i created this thread to prove i am right
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/670921-how-get-best-your-plants-3.html
so now i cant prove to all ignorants like you that i am great grower and one from the best
and from you to believe that it will take 4 months more
just follow the thread
So these yielded over a pound and they are all indoor, doesn't means you're a great grower, average at best... maybe.IMAG0113.jpgIMAG0084.jpgvanilla 2.jpgvanilla.jpgvanilla 3.jpg

Still doesn't change the fact, that your full of shit on the 50%-60% with your black hash :)
 

jamezsr

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So these yielded over a pound and they are all indoor, doesn't means you're a great grower, average at best... maybe.View attachment 2712988View attachment 2712989View attachment 2712990View attachment 2712992View attachment 2712993

Still doesn't change the fact, that your full of shit on the 50%-60% with your black hash :)
there are great difference between picking up a plant that harvested one lb from the net and the making from all your plants to harvest each one lb and prove that step by step
now please go away i have no time for an idiot
 

suTraGrow

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there are great difference between picking up a plant that harvested one lb from the net and the making from all your plants to harvest each one lb and prove that step by step
now please go away i have no time for an idiot
Picking up a plant from the net... Those are all home grown by me, I suggest you go over my previous grows. ;)
Jealousy is a curse, ignorance is bliss.





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AliCakes

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Frenchy is the man when it comes to hash. Watch his videos and follow, step by step. You will never look for black/finger hash again. The stuff you showed in the OP is very unpure and will not compare.

Leave BHO alone. Commercial grade butane (even stuff that has been filtered multiple times) also includes isobutane, ethanethiol, propane, and benzene; and many brands contain added products meant to clean/condition the inside of your lighter. Impurities are left behind and BHO use has been linked to the hardening of heart valves. (If you insist on BHO find a way to source pharmaceutical solvent grade butane, and vacuum purge it.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ActUTTHsGOM
 

suTraGrow

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Impurities are left behind and BHO use has been linked to the hardening of heart valves. (If you insist on BHO find a way to source pharmaceutical solvent grade butane, and vacuum purge it.)
Very curious, were exactly did you get this piece of information?
 

AliCakes

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I heard it from a mmj patient about a year ago. He had to have two heart valves replaced and the doctor told him that chronic benzene and other contaminant exposure from BHO was the most likely cause.
 

Kervork

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So that's like third hand info. He would get 10 times more pumping gas into his car. Funny but butane MSDS lists nothing about any benzene. If the doctor said that he was pulling it out of his ass without any scientific proof to back it up.

That black hash looks like the crappy iso we used to make in the old days following the anarchist cookbook's method of boiling in alcohol for an hour. All the chlorophyl makes it look green. Uck.
 
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