Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

[GandalfdaGreen]

I am posting up a some pictures here to show what teas can do for overall health. Last Sunday these plants were less than half this size and suffering from a P deficiency and a high soil mix ph from my dumbass using too much dolomite in their mix. I ordered diamond mylar, which will be here this week, so I can set up a proper veg area. I want to throw these into flower in a week or two and cut clones. I am looking for a few top shelf females to keep as mothers.

Take a close look at the last two pictures. This one PE female is showing signs of what I think is light burn. If its not light burn then its a sign of P def, which I dont see that being possible since I used Budswell 0-7-0 in the last two teas. It is the only plant showing these symptoms. I found a picture of light burn in JC Stitch's book Marijuana Garden Saver and this looks identical. I was also thinking that the plant may have run into a patch of "hot mix" in its container. I really spend time mixing the blend but there may have been more of something in that 1 spot. This last part came after some OG so I apologize if it does not make sense.

My little hydro project is still in play. I started it yesterday using clones from VISC test gear and includes Infinity, THC, 420, and Sin. The strains in the soil mix include Kali Mist, PE, Blue OG, BB's Engineer's Dream S1 purple pheno, Bubblegum, Kali Bubba, Lemon Kush, Green Poison, Power Skunk, and a few others. I added dolomite, azomite, mycos, azos, EWCs, 3 types of bat guano, Seabird guano, and a bunch of perlite. Soil base was FFHF.

They are under 650 watts of MH. They have been under 400 watts of Mh for 10 days and I added a 250 MH last night. They were under a TEK 2 T5 light prior. Without running downstairs, I think the seeds were placed into germination 5 weeks ago this weekend.




The 3rd picture in the top row and the first picture in the bottom row are 2 examples of the Kali Mist . They are 90% sativia. They are not burned from the teas at all. Thanks for looking. I am trying to learn as much as possible about organics. I am finishing up Teaming with Microbes and I just ordered Soma and the Rev's books about organically growing MJ. I have only been using teas a week and I have never witnessed growth like this before under any circumstances. Take care.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Here are the teas results in the flowering room. 2 x 400 watt HPS and 1 Tek 2 with 3000K bulbs. All VISC test gear. Infinity, 420, THC, Sin, and GSpot. Medium is FFOF, FFHF, Perlite, Azomite, EWCs, dolomite, bat and bird guano, Mycos, and Azos. I used plain water for the veg. The Veg mix was the same mix minus the higher P guano. After the tea last week things really stretched and popped. They were flipped 12 days ago. The first two pictures are the seedling/cloning chamber. I run 2 Tek 2 lights in there. Right now, since I had no need to use one, I threw it into the bloom area for additional lighting. I have run 2 teas through these in the past week. Thanks for looking guys. Take care.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

This is where the plants in veg right now will end up. 1000 watt hps. I run a portable AC when its hot in July and August to keep things nice.



I like to call my basement "The Garden of Weeden". I call dibs on that name forever.

 

[hyroot]

Welcome to the world of true organics . Toss those bottled nutes

Check this thread

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html


Your girls look great. Healthy and happy. Good job grower.


Happy growing.

 

[Ninjabowler]

Nice use of space. Kill it

 

[mycomaster]

Wow, just beautiful Gandalf. Like someone else said great use of space, and the teas are just amazing I forgot how good they work. I brewed up a tea over the weekend for my girls in flower with some bat guano and other goodies. I've also decided to start using E.J. Meta-K for my potassium needs in the future since it's so dang hard to find amendments with a decent amount of K in them. I know green sand, but there's not too many more. I was using the Meta-K for all my seedlings along with silica to strengthen them up and I was also using high amounts of P to get the roots in order and when I Xplanted the root system had exploded along with the plants being as rigid as telephone poles. Quite happy with the results for sure. Everybody looks just amazing bro! Peace out.

EDIT: Sorry no rep bump, but it won't let me!

 

[prosperian]

It's great when you try something new and it works. And it's hard to go wrong when you go back to the basics of pure organic growing.

Rep bump!

 

[Daniel987]

Hard to beat the quality and simplicity of organics. I am planning on setting up a no-till grow, i love the idea of not having to mix new soil every grow.
Your girls look very healthy, they look like there liken your teas!

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Thanks guys. I'll keep posting here with updates when changes occur. I am going to work some Progress Earth stuff into the teas soon and I'll post up my thoughts of them when I do. Take care guys.

http://progressearth.com/

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I want to get your thoughts on my next moves. My main goal to accomplish out of my current veg is to assess the plants and choose the perfect specimens for mothers. I expect that only 3 max will make it. I would love to put these into flower in 1 week. I have many sites available right now to clone from on each plant and grow into potential mothers.

Since the plants will be about 16-18" at the time of being put into 12/12 next week, would it be smart to not top them now? I did not get around to topping them based on the P deficiency and my attempt to kill them with excessive dolomite a week or so ago. The plants will be under the 1000 watt hps so smaller is better to keep things under control throughout the flowering. In 7 weeks I will be able to use the 2 400 watt hps also. I have read on RIU that Kali Mist has been flowered at 2 weeks old to control height. I never did that with my KM. I always flowered at 5-6 weeks. Other than the OG Kush making this tough to read for you, does this sound like a logical way to move forward?

 

[mycomaster]

I've only ever grown Kali Mist from clone, and the mother is a very short pheno of the strain. If you get a shorter pheno I would seriously consider her as the keeper if she produces nicely for you. With one week left it's a pretty tough decision, to top or not to top. I would hate to see you take my advice and diminish your crop in any way, but I think I would do a quick top and maybe let them veg a couple of extra days. If you do top they should have enough time to recover and put on a little length, and then with the stretch after the flip they should fill out nice and fill in with flowers. Of course by doing that it would make the tops a little thinner and need support when they do fill in. It's all personal preference brother. I like to top and make bushes by main-lining in my own form and keep a flat even canopy of flowers. I in no way have the expansive grow area you do though so I might do things alot differently if given the chance. There's just something enchanting about a large tree of cannabis. I like my bushes too, there's just something about the 6 footers and up though, you know. That's why I do my outside grows each year, there's just nothing like walking up on a tiny forest of giant cannabis plants. A little risky growing outside where I am, maybe. Worth it, definitely considering the amount of meds I can pull outside in a season with such large plants. My buddy doesn't want me to take pics, which I can understand for sure, but after the harvest I'll show some and show you want you can do outside with organics. We've been working in manure and all sorts of goodies like straw and alfalfa meal and all our trimmings without any sugar, along with compost and other stuff. It just keeps getting better after every season. Last year at the end of the season I put 3 lbs of mycos down before tilling it all under for the winter, and covering it all up with fall leafs. When we removed the leafs in preparation of the soil for the season there was a myco web that would have made Subcool jealous. I almost refuse to flower a plant before the poor thing is 4 weeks old, I don't think the plant will fully express itself with such a short life. For example my Skunk#1 was over 2 months old before flowering and it is so fragrant and is flowering rather quickly, putting trich's on quite fast. The other strain I have going is from the same breeder as the Kali Mist I believe and I vegged it just as long as the Skunk#1 and it is also maturing very quickly, putting on some purple now and filling out just as fast. The Menage a Trois is a little more dense than the Skunk#1 though having more indica in her. I hope all this hash babble makes some sense to someone else. Take it easy man I'm sure you'll make a good decision regardless of any non-sense people write in here. Peace out.

 

[mr west]

Subbed ill read up laters)))))

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

Awesome set-up and oh so lush green. Thanx for the link bro

 

[M1dAmber]

Looking super good. I am subbed up to this thread.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I lollipopped the plants that I flipped 2 weeks ago. Things look really green and healthy. I took a little of the mix off the top of the of the containers so that i will be able to water them more efficiently. I also moved half of the plants into another bloom area for better light and air circulation. At the next watering I am going to give them ph adjusted Sensizym. After reading some of Uncle Buck's stuff, I am going to add half strength of Peruvian guano 12-11-2 to all my teas. I want to keep growth strong throughout the bloom. My diamond mylar should be here in the next few days too. For those of you who have not tried to go organic yet, I really suggest you give it a try. The plants seem to love this whole soil food web concept. Take care. I'll post more when things come up.

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/sensizym/sensizym_product_information.php



Take a look at the second picture. The leaves have always had a funny texture to them. No problem with the plant at all. It is just as vigorous as any of the others. The leaves have a tougher texture to them. I have read that this could be a trait expressing a high CBN profile. I will post up better pictures in better light later. Take care.

 

[M1dAmber]

For those of you who have not tried to go organic yet, I really suggest you give it a try. The plants seem to love this whole soil food web concept.

Solid, healthy, happy looking plants, Gandalf!

Yeah man, I have been growing organically for 3 years, and I really don't see how anyone can grow any other way. Teas are a bitch to clean up after sometimes, but other than that organic growing is the bees knees!

Thanks for the great photos, keep us updated.

 

[mycomaster]

All the girls are looking amazing. I like how all the cords are off the floor away from water " Safety first, then teamwork" I've always had water from the waist down and electric from the waist up, good rule of thumb when you can. I also like the tubs and the cleanliness and organization, keeps headaches to a minimum. I have to agree, my plants just love 100% organic and being able to re-use your soil and it just getting better is a pretty nice upside as well. The soil i just bought will be my last hopefully, with everything I already have cooked and everything that's composting, I should be set. I also just stocked up on amendments and am ordering progress earth re-charge I think it is so I will be set now that I think of it. I've also been doing some reading on Veganics and think I might give it a small test run and see what comes back. I think I will run a Skunk#1 that I've worked with quite a bit and is a really nice plant. I know what to expect in pretty much every area with nute needs, trich production, and over all yield. I should be able to do a fair comparison I would think, plus I'll be running another one right with it in regular amended organic soil and see what they do. They might not go into flower at the same time but they will get the same time in flower regardless. Then I'll test both and report. Growing your own meds is rewarding in so many ways. Take it easy bro and the girls really do just look crazy beautiful. Peace out.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I have a sample of a vegan compost tea mix that came with my 5 gallon vortex brewer. It is actually enough to last several brews. It is a cool little unit but the one I made for myself works really well too. I am going to throw some of the synergy vegan mix into the brewer in a week or so. The mix contains: compost, EWC, humus, decomposed wood chips, kelp powder(Ascophyllum Nodosum), Alfalfa flour, Amaranth flour, Oat flour, Quinoa flour, Spelt flour, and insect frass. I love this whole new world of growing. Thanks for looking everyone. I look forward to our trip together and I hope we all learn some cool stuff on our path. Take care.

 

[Natural Gas]

Wow...Super Thread Gandalf...I will be following...FWIW

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Here is an update. They are at the beginning of week 3 since the flip to 12/12. The trichomes started to show up a few days ago. The scents range from sweet tropical fruits to earthy sourness. The tropical fruits are the Infinity, 420 strains. The sour earthy scent is the THC strain. Things are moving along well. They love to drink. I am going to be very cautious with watering. I think I could water every 2 days but I am going to go for every 3 and see how things progress.

They are all uniform in growth in their respective strains. I have always found the VISC gear to be this way. The THC will be a heavy yielder as usual. The THC is a cross of Fucking Incredible x Super Skunk. The Infinity and 420 is Burmese x Fucking Incredible. I gave them Sensizym only the last watering. They are really starting to dig into blooming now. I love this time of the cycle. I apologize for the pictures under the hps. I am going to start to take the photos in natural light only starting now.