++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

hellraizer30 said:
Pic #2 looks like nute burn, theres a small amout of claw there.

this is how i look at it
tap water 160
add cal-mag to get 200
then add base at 1/4 strength
then roots excel

And see if theres a change.....

how long they been in the blocks?
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Thanks for the quick response!! I'm watering today so I'll give that a try. It is a new strain for me so I'm sure I'm going to run into this stuff till I get it figured out. I'm ocd when it comes to this and I want it perfect! I'd say they've been in the blocks about a month. Pic 2 is just a shitty pic. It seems to me that the new growth starts out a little pale and when it grows out like the stuff underneath it in the pics it starts browning. Thanks again bro!
 
ringlead3r said:
I say its a combo of N deficient and a ph issue because u didn't pre soak u blocks just a guess
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Always pre soak the blocks in 5.5. Not sure about the N deficiency. Probably not a ph issue since I use a hanna grochek meter and re check it with ph liquid. But who knows!
 
drgreentm said:
whats up guys, been getting pm's about the perlite grow so i figured i would post some pics from today so everybody can see how they are doing. they look great, they are about 28 days in today and the dm gold seems to be doing ok, not sure if its going to significantly increase the yield but they look healthy. someone asked me about watering and want to clarify i havent changed my watering schedule, it is the same as when i ran with hydroton. i water x3 within a 12 hour periode in flower of course, and water x4 in 24 hours in veg.
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I want to see a pic of ur roots on ur perlite flood table grow if u would I ran perlite and had a hard time watering 1 time a day without seeing overwatering
 
Hey what's up everybody, just wondering if I could get some help with some ph issues. I'm using the Titan ebb and grow 5 gal buckets. I'm having terrible ph fluctuation where my ph will go from 5.5 to 7.2 overnight. I'm using heavy 16 nutrients which is veg a and b, roots excel from house and garden, heavy 16 prime, and like 2 scoops of great white. First I was using airstones in my Rex but the guy at heavy 16 told me I shouldn't use any airstones just a recirc pump. Plants are like a foot tall and are looking kinda sad and its been a week since the transplant. Wondering what I can do to stabilize the ph.
 
GreenDyl said:
Hey what's up everybody, just wondering if I could get some help with some ph issues. I'm using the Titan ebb and grow 5 gal buckets. I'm having terrible ph fluctuation where my ph will go from 5.5 to 7.2 overnight. I'm using heavy 16 nutrients which is veg a and b, roots excel from house and garden, heavy 16 prime, and like 2 scoops of great white. First I was using airstones in my Rex but the guy at heavy 16 told me I shouldn't use any airstones just a recirc pump. Plants are like a foot tall and are looking kinda sad and its been a week since the transplant. Wondering what I can do to stabilize the ph.
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u might want to mention your ec/ppm levels for the op.
 
GreenDyl said:
Hey what's up everybody, just wondering if I could get some help with some ph issues. I'm using the Titan ebb and grow 5 gal buckets. I'm having terrible ph fluctuation where my ph will go from 5.5 to 7.2 overnight. I'm using heavy 16 nutrients which is veg a and b, roots excel from house and garden, heavy 16 prime, and like 2 scoops of great white. First I was using airstones in my Rex but the guy at heavy 16 told me I shouldn't use any airstones just a recirc pump. Plants are like a foot tall and are looking kinda sad and its been a week since the transplant. Wondering what I can do to stabilize the ph.
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Heavy 16 prime is some thick stuff! 16 can be tricky in a titan!

Unless your in soil or your brewing that great white i would switch to orca....
heres my thought on the titan or anyother like system.

you need to keep the water moving in the rez... I installed a pump the runs 15min every hour.
this pump pulls water up and then back to the res like a water fall.
keeping the water moving will help combat the bacteria, ph will raise
always in the event you have a outbreak.

heavy full line is dirty and more catered to dtw....
if you want performace and cleaness go with canna


also start brewing tea its a must! A simple aquashield/orca/ewc/mollases
tea wil kill it lol in a good way
 
I used the tea before I just feel like it didn't really resolve the ph issue, like the roots are super white there's no slime on them
 
I would seriously cut out all the other shit your adding except base nutrients.

Seriously, all that shit is completely unnecessary. I've been there. Roots excel, liquid light, great white, blah blah blah. End of the day? Fucking waste of money...especially if you don't know what your doing with it. Like running an airstone with roots excell....instant gunk! And ph FUNK.

Dump, rinse, refill with base grow nutes at 600-700. Leave them alone. I would be SHOCKED if you had root rot in ebb flow.
BTW..love great white...but you only need to add it once or twice if you have some medium for it to establish in.

Cheers
 
Wow, this is a great thread! I've been doing lots of reading and I finally have my very own DIY Ebb and Flow system set up and running. Everything is going really well. I'm subbed up here because there is so much good info here!

Here's my set up.

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Watch for floating hydroton but it sounds like your floading high enough! Getting water to the roots till they
get rooted in good is important. Once you see them get growing you could go back to 2in
 
hellraizer30 said:
Watch for floating hydroton but it sounds like your floading high enough! Getting water to the roots till they
get rooted in good is important. Once you see them get growing you could go back to 2in
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Thanks for the input. Um... I do have floating hydroton... is that bad? And I am starting to see little white tips starting to peek out of the rocks so my roots are def growing! When should I cut it back to 2"?
 
Belle of Buds said:
Thanks for the input. Um... I do have floating hydroton... is that bad? And I am starting to see little white tips starting to peek out of the rocks so my roots are def growing! When should I cut it back to 2"?
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I once had a 2x4 table setup with hydroton almost the same as you.. And when i flooded
i went to much and the net pots started to roll over :( was a pain in the ass till i backed
off the amount of water.


thats a concrete mixing tub right?
 
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