Dots forming on leaves.

Jroller420

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I have two separate rooms one for veg and one for bloom. In the bloom room I have an auto-flower and two cherry pie strains. Both cherry pies started forming these little dots on some of their leaves. At first I just thought maybe it was from me spraying just some regular water on them. So I stopped spraying them and just gave them their nutrient water in the soil. But still on some leaves the dots kept forming. Their not on all of the leaves just some but I still wanna make sure it's nothing serious. Any ideas of what it could be?
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justugh

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i know this one ...........u are in the early stages of a deaf in something

u have red stem ...............are u in veggie or flower

red stem is a sign of lacking in something NPK one of those .................u need to test the soil ph to make sure it is not lock out........ lower then 6 or higher then 7 is bad perfect is 6.3 to 6.7

if it is veggie u need more N................. if it is flowering it could be anyone one of the 3 i normally mix half grow and half bloom/ calmag+ / and bio bud/budcandy

odds are the soil might have been off in something every strain likes different there is no one product that covers everything
 

Jroller420

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The two cherry pies are in flowering now just starting to show pistils. The water I give them though has all the nutrients they should need though and my other plants are doing fine. Maybe just not watering those two enough? I use Botanicare. Bloom, liquid karma, cal-mag, sweet, a little hydroplex and silica blast.
 

justugh

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nothing has everything ......the best we can do is get close ...............to get everything we need a lab and chemical break down of several grows


if it is just starting to flower u are low on N u need some grow in there for little bit longer if it is in there increse the lvl by say 15% more for 3 waterings i am assuming u water every 48 hours roughtly with something around 22 28 fliud oz
 

Jroller420

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Okay I'll start giving them a little bit of the veg water for like a week or two maybe and see how it goes. Did I put them in the bloom room too soon? Is that why the dots started to appear? Or is it just a normal thing to sometimes happen?
 

justugh

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no this is normal for frist time growing

u went strait to the bloom instead of tapering off the grow with a mix of bloom
ummmmmmmm quick break down
nothing but water
grow at low lvls
grow at medium lvls
grow full str
grow at 50% bloom at 50%
grow at 25% bloom 75%
bloom
bloom
flush
cut

this is for auto plants 10 week plan .....and rem autos do not like 100% str when i say full str i mean 75% of what ever product formula u have been fallowing .......u could use this on a photo that is 10 weeks full power
 

Jroller420

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Okay the two Cherry Pies are actually not auto-flowering but that's still very good to know because the Red Poison that I still have going is auto-flowering. So I'll start giving that some of the veg water too along with the Cherry Pies. After the Red Poison though I am done with auto-flowers. I like to be able to control when the plants bloom a lot more and plus I can't clone autos. Thanks again for all the help you're the shit. You must be a long time grower to have all the knowledge you seem to have.
 

justugh

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alll come one autos u can controll

with autos u top them it sends it to a very nice bush pushed me back to veggie for 10/14 days ..............when u get to flowering u can clip fan leaves it will alter the time that it completes in do to the lower engery

photos require to much time and effort ................i have done the math once u under the strain u could use a auto water feeding system and just a timer for the lights ......no changing bulbs no changing times .........u master the nutrients and the clipping topping and training........i have found auto plants with 300 g yeailds of 17% thc and a new one of 350 to 400 grams 18% .......and the best of all the part u need one fricken tent one freaking light and fan system so the cost of running and the time u spent is reduced

as for old time grower (weed not really) i am a old stoner with hippies as buddies (50 70 year old hippies been doingit for years) i know how to garden from childhood (redneck skills) and the rest is just sheer learning trail and error i am one of those werid ppl in my head recalls almost everything anything i have heard read watch or learned is in there ..........i am the amish fucker given time i can do anything asked too for 4 months i did nothing but read all the books on growing weed i gathered them all up from the internet and since then i been combing sites for about 7 hours a day reading and learning ..............it is all sceince and math in the end then doing my own exps ......so far i in the middle area if they say u get 10 to 20 grams i got 15.5...........my next one is due in 7 days i should hit near a oz since it was a bigger pot and i altered the lighting for it
 

Jroller420

Member
I honestly didn't know you could delay the flowering like that but still you can't clone them. Once I get a strain I want to be able to keep it and not have to start from seed all over again. Just my preference I guess but I know a lot of people use only auto-flowers.

And kind of going back to my previous problem with the small plant....Every time I transplant I'm gonna start using a little bit of rooting hormone with every plant. That way hopefully I don't run into anymore stunted grows and I'm hoping it may even help encourage them to grow a little faster and/or bigger....
 

justugh

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and my final push for auto

photo plant to get something good and worth all the cost u have to run it 4 to 5 months so in a year u could do 2 or 3 grows
auto plants u can do 2 months to 3 months so that is 6 to 4 grows a year

u learn more with autos to be a master grower for your strains will take less time then it does on photos
 

justugh

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that is one of the issuses stop trasplanting the shock to the plant is not good if u are going a plant for years ok but i think personally it is the stuipiest thing to do

with a little more time u can make a pot with a layer system (working on the design now need to run the next set of plants to see results ) but it is in there from seed to cut ........less shocking less trouble and with feminized seeds this is best no hemi no males..............most of the troubles with short plants and stunting is do to ppl messing up some important factor due to first time

order a 10 seed pack ..........if one plant makes u a QP u grow 5 that is 1.25 lbs for a person using personal use that is more then enough for a year ........the other 5 u can grow sell and order 50 seeds of it and some others

stoners are soical ppl i know u got stoner buddies once they try something u made they will want becuase it is not cut down steped on mexican stuff ( u still have all the tris and hairs and see crystals so big u nut your pants) they will beg u .....i am going on the rule if they want it i will do it i figure out how much it cost me to grow one plant ....around 70 85 bucks ....i tell them 300 a oz and they love me
 

Jroller420

Member
I understand and in the long run it is more worth it. Eventually I may switch to just auto-flowering but for now I'm just sticking with what I have. And the one major thing that worries me about doing nothing but autos is that you have to keep buying seeds and every time you do it's a risk of getting caught.

And about the transplanting.... I know it's not good that's why I try to only do it once, twice tops just to get them in their bigger pots. And so far transplanting hasn't harmed any of my plants not even in my first grow a year ago. The only plant it may have affected was the auto Cream Caramel that wouldn't grow.
 

justugh

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at this point and time i do not think the postal inspectors really care anymore with so many states saying it is legal

and the way i look at it this system of the world we have is not going to be around much longer anyways (watch the news and tell me getting better or worst and i mean the news as in bbc and all those networks not just usa)

as for the plants u have never done a seed to cut in one pot u will notice a different if u try one some time
 

justugh

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i just got a better responce to jiffy plug in pot filled in FFOF(fox farm ocean forrest) then i did my orgrinal jiffy plug in my own mix
 

jamezsr

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I have two separate rooms one for veg and one for bloom. In the bloom room I have an auto-flower and two cherry pie strains. Both cherry pies started forming these little dots on some of their leaves. At first I just thought maybe it was from me spraying just some regular water on them. So I stopped spraying them and just gave them their nutrient water in the soil. But still on some leaves the dots kept forming. Their not on all of the leaves just some but I still wanna make sure it's nothing serious. Any ideas of what it could be?
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check the back of the leaves and see if you can see spider mite eggs even if you are spraying
the leaves look weak
 

justugh

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i thought the same thing untill i sawl the stem on the leaf ....that is dark dark red almost purple
 

Jroller420

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I've been giving the Cherry Pies some Veg water and they seem to have been doing better but now some brown/orange dots are showing up on some of the leaves. I thought it may have been from the leaves getting too close to the light especially because at first all the leaves I found were very close to the light. But then I checked again and I noticed what looked to be the same dots forming on a much lower branch on the other Cherry Pie(two total). Any ideas?
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Jroller420

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The first two pics are the Cherry Pies. The end of the leaves on these along with the leaves on the Red Poison pics below are turning downwards and I was just curious what might do that as well?
All three plants are in the bloom room on a 12/12 light cycle and it's a 400 watt hps.
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Alexander Supertramp

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i know this one ...........u are in the early stages of a deaf in something

u have red stem ...............are u in veggie or flower

red stem is a sign of lacking in something NPK one of those .................u need to test the soil ph to make sure it is not lock out........ lower then 6 or higher then 7 is bad perfect is 6.3 to 6.7

if it is veggie u need more N................. if it is flowering it could be anyone one of the 3 i normally mix half grow and half bloom/ calmag+ / and bio bud/budcandy

odds are the soil might have been off in something every strain likes different there is no one product that covers everything
Wow, just wow...'Heres your Sign' You truly do not have a clue do you. Quite trying to sound like some super grower before your really fuck somebodies crop up.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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The rusty spot indicate a Calcium deficiency. The tips turn down and leaf margins beginning to roll indicate they are on the verge of Nitrogen toxicity.
 
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