Riot seeds

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Jogro

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damn what a contrast ....bodhi has 12 beans for 65 while riots is 160 for 6...
Best way to normalize this is to look at per-ceed cost.

Riot is charging over $20/bean for his feminized ceeds. Note that typically feminized ceeds cost double what regulars do. IMO, they "shouldn't", but they do.

Bodhi is charging $5.40/bean.

Sannie has some good lines for $30/ 10 pack, or only $3/bean, and he typically throws in a few freebies too, at least offsetting shipping charges.
 

colonuggs

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shit I remember on the Farm about a year ago....some starfighter seeds went for $350 a bean


I have a cut to one from a bro in Michigan :) Some serious Creeper weed....he paid like $200 a bean... got 4


 

eyeball696

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damn that sucks hes a cocksucker scamming thief...i was just looking at his site and he got some crazy shit! too good to be true...even swerve is on this thread talking shit about riot. riot must be a bitch is swerve is serving him. lol
Wow that many jealous people in here? I run a lot of riot strains. So fucking what if he's not on attitude or single seed. You sub par growers are just to ignorant to know there is hermie tendencies in s1 genetics. YouTube purple bubba crack and other strains. Some people don't even know what a female hair or male sack looks like anyway. Only a small % of growers even know what's really going on. The others are lead around by people claiming to be the shit or to have the shit. Either way my genetics come from Cali & not no Cali connection. Just like Matthew Riot say
"Fuck the haters" or in another words.
You will never have what I have..
 

dat130ysmurf

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what did u try smurf?
Haven't actually gotten to try any riot gear myself yet.....I've browsed his gear a bit and it all looks dank, but as stated by other's that's a HIGH ticket for a FEW beans, and most of what I seen that I would consider is out of stock...until I do get a chance to try his gear I'll be watchin grow logs of his gear at "the other site"
 

colonuggs

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Wow that many jealous people in here? I run a lot of riot strains. So fucking what if he's not on attitude or single seed. You sub par growers are just to ignorant to know there is hermie tendencies in s1 genetics. YouTube purple bubba crack and other strains. Some people don't even know what a female hair or male sack looks like anyway. Only a small % of growers even know what's really going on. The others are lead around by people claiming to be the shit or to have the shit. Either way my genetics come from Cali & not no Cali connection. Just like Matthew Riot say
"Fuck the haters" or in another words.
You will never have what I have..
UMMM.... actually Riot's gear was on Attitude's menu......they were selling his beans

Guess why its no longer is...peoples feedback and issues with the gear.....the Tude dropped him
 

gudkarma

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^ not really

subcool told the management @ the tude' something like : if they keep carrying riot gear he was gonna ditch them.

ceeds vs tga thongs :-)

i think riot was planning to market something with sub genetics or maybe even had a [pollen chuck] project with sub & put that out via the 'tude.

more genetic thievery on the part of , & as bodhi noted , "one of the good guys in the game".
 

colonuggs

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hahaha...subcool everyones gear is always better than the next guys :) none of these guys were even around a couple years ago...

anybody who is a breeder starts with other peoples gear to make beans......you cant say they dont
 

gudkarma

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& i'll never ride the wave.
& always have my own opinion.
& always grow even if the internet went black tomorrow.

y'all can have ur own opinions.
i say, its respectable wither way.
long as your data is proper.

i grew dude.
some people supporting this guy (riot) , never even cracked his beans.
 

greenghost420

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basically if i grow riots gear, ill most likely buy beans from whoever he stole that current cross/s1 from. i saw sub was mad that he was selling a hermie prone strain tga tested and failed. how nice to know that he prob charged up thru the ass compared to sub...
 

blissfest

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No such thing as stealing someone's gear, they sold it to me, and nobody owns it anyway, LOL!

Some of these so-called breeders that get butt hurt over someone using their so-called genetics is fuckin laughable. Where do you think they got their shit from, someone else, LMFAO!

I am using Rare Dankness, Bodhi, DNA, Reserva Privada, Raskal, and Alien's gear to make a lot of crosses and S1's in the near future.

Plus I have 3 of Riot's cookie crosses and if I find an excellent plant I will use that too.
 

eyeball696

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basically if i grow riots gear, ill most likely buy beans from whoever he stole that current cross/s1 from. i saw sub was mad that he was selling a hermie prone strain tga tested and failed. how nice to know that he prob charged up thru the ass compared to sub...
Stole???
What did he break in his room steal his genetics? Please your a moron for even talking. Call your mom
 

eyeball696

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Ok ill entertain this one alitttle longer. Explain how. He break into his house or collective? NOBODY owns a plant . What now because I sell black cherry soda clones I should kick back some to subcool?
 

Jogro

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Wow that many jealous people in here?
Honestly, I couldn't care less about Riot or his gear. If he can get suckers to pay $23 for his S1s or mutts, good for him.

Not wanting to pay 2-3x the market price for his ceeds doesn't make me "jealous", it just makes me "sane".


I run a lot of riot strains. So fucking what if he's not on attitude or single seed.
Good for you.

I agree his current distribution isn't necessarily a reflection on the quality of his genetics, but you do raise a good point.

If Riot is cutting out the middlemen and selling his beans directly to the public (which he is) rather than through banks, then his gear should cost quite a bit LESS than the competition, not more.

You sub par growers are just to ignorant to know there is hermie tendencies in s1 genetics
Your juvenile insults aside, I've grown Sickmeds Green Crack S1 multiple times now, and never seen so much as one banana.

But if, as you say, S1s are hermie-prone, then why on earth should anyone pay top dollar to Riot for these?

Just like Matthew Riot say "Fuck the haters" or in another words. You will never have what I have..
Now THAT'S funny, coming from a guy who sources all his genetics from other people!

What exactly is it that Riot has that nobody else has? Blue Dream S1s that don't compare to the original and go hermie at the drop of a hat?

Looks to me like the guy has the same Green Crack, OG Kush, GSC, GDP and other "name" clone strains that all the breeders and lots of private growers have.
 

racerboy71

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Hey eyeball while I tend to agree with you about no one owning genetics.. would you mind keeping the personal insults to yourself please and thank you.. :)
 

Jogro

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Ok ill entertain this one alitttle longer. Explain how. He break into his house or collective? NOBODY owns a plant you fucktard. What now because I sell black cherry soda clones I should kick back some to subcool? Your a real retard and not just like the ones in movies
Ever heard of "honor"? There is a code of ethics that applies here, though clearly not everyone chooses to follow it.

You can sell all the cuts of "Black cherry Soda" you like, so long as you say they're "Black Cherry Soda". But if you call these cuts "eyeball pie" and claim you've bred the line yourself, you're crossing the line. No, you won't go to "jail" for this, but that doesn't make it right or ethical, and you shouldn't be surprised if the original breeders give you the hairy eyeball if you choose to do this.

Should you be paying royalties to Subcool for selling cuts of his strain?

Legally speaking, you aren't obligated to; at least not now because these sorts of strains can't be patented. But if you were talking about, say, a specially bred strain of tomatoes or some other plant Subcool potentially could have patented it, and if so, damn right you'd owe him royalties if you were selling seeds or clones of his creation.

Ditto for trademark. Right now, illegal drug strain names aren't able to be trademarked under Federal case law. Therefore anyone can call anything they like "Subcools Black Cherry Soda" (legit or not) and sell it, and there isn't anything Subcool can legally do to stop it. But just because you "can" do this, doesn't make it right.

If you tried this with "Dr. Brown's Cherry Soda" (ie the actual beverage) mixing up your own version of their drink and calling it "Dr Browns", they'd have a legal course of action against you. Why shouldn't this be true with cannabis strains that people have spent time and money developing?

On breeding, obviously EVERYONE has to start somewhere, and since cannabis has "only" been selectively bred by humans for 10,000 years, everyone is going to be starting with a line worked for centuries by people before. Unless you're literally going to feral or wild cannabis strains to start with, ALL breeders MUST start with other people's lines.

But there is a "right" way and a wrong way to go about this.

Its perfectly fine to start with other people's genetics, cross them, make your own line and sell the ceeds. The honorable ones who do this will correctly attribute the parents, if asked. Its perfectly fine to sell S1s of "clone only" lines too, especially when in many cases the origins of those lines are uncertain (so you can't really attribute them even if you wanted to).

What's NOT OK, is to take someone else's highly worked or inbred line, from a project they may have worked on for several years at great expense and/or personal risk, knock off a few bags of F1 ceeds, then sell the resultant beans as the same "name" line, or (maybe worse) just rename the line and take credit for developing it. Of course there are plenty of "breeders" who do this very thing every single day, but its about as close to theft of intellectual property as you're going to see in this game.

Again, just because there is no law against it, doesn't make it "right".
 
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