The UK Growers Thread!

[The Yorkshireman]

not that i have enough to launder but isnt casino a good idea, lost about ten % of the cash to make it look legit then get paid with a cheque?

I'm afraid not mate, they'd bar you then report you for money laundering (or keep taking your money and just report you). That's the first thing they teach you to look for when being trained, my missus has been a senior cashier at a casino for 7 years (still is) and I was a manager for 7.

 

[iiKode]

yep that and shit luck

small amounts you dont sweat it , its about assets at the end of it all , the pigs take what they see as proceeds of crime so its yours to make there lifes as difficult as possible , so you need to think on cash jobs , that means market traders and taxi driving ( your too young but soon aye ) but anything that brings in a cash turn over that doesnt require a fuck load of receipts , if you dont have the paperwork to justify this isnt the end of the world and mr taxman shags you a little , this is a valid way of creating legality but you really need to be on the ball in all that you do , i have a scam but cant say online

fake id's and all that sorta shit, then keep it clear of anywhere you ever go, and you should be alright? then if ur looking at any time u dont wanna do fuck off, if u seem alright do the time come out and have something to start over, im still looking at about 2 years before i even think about any of that shit, just play it smart and get up to the top, hopefully when i move out i can get a 1200w flower room to keep my shit on the go, then after that can keep the paper coming in

 

[moggggys]

anyone know what the offshore bank accounts are and how to do it, sound like tony soprano but i never understood how that worked, bank cant be linked to you? the bank int in ur area so cant prove if ur doing anything criminal, or just different rules for different banks/countries?

k.... the taxman and general government departments have full access to any and all bank accounts , however in certain countrys they do not operate the same policy and so a request for info gets told to get fucked , there are only certain banks in the world who act like this the most famous is the swiz , however they charge for having an account so there is an erosion of any funds dropped into there , also there is a paper trail as money will be transferred from one account to another ( cops have to know the source mind ) that is unless your happy to fly over and deposit , only really worth having if your a serious player plus if theres an award against you then the court may chase the paper trail and fine you way more that whats in the account , an example is a fella who was a grower , had a half decent set up , cunts took his door off , they found he had deposited money in spain and transferred this to offshore , they stuck him in prison and gave him extra time unless he payed a decent fine into the treasury the dirty fuckers

 

[newuserlol]

I'm afraid not mate, they'd bar you then report you for money laundering. That's the first thing they teach you to look for when being trained, my missus has been a senior cashier at a casino for 7 years (still is) and I was a manager for 7.

my best mate W dragon was also a croupier for many years and hes seen it done many times.

 

[newuserlol]

only on for 2 mins lads got duties to perform lol

hope everyones all good,

the magic number in the casino used to be 10grand this amount or higher would have to be recorded, I've seen 9k being cashed in more times than I could count, go straight to the cash desk and buy in for cash chips, pick a percentage to lose and stick to it, spend several hours playing for low amounts and then cash out and leave with a cheque to be paid into your bank----clean legit money, if your going to do this don't be obvious and play red and black on roulette, mix it up black jack is your best odds and playing several games around the room makes it near impossible to see what your winning and losing in the pit.
Always go to a private casino as they're happy to take your money and generally don't give a shit as long as you lose a few quid 10% seemed to be the usual amount for the regulars when I was in the game and several would repeat the process nightly, just remember don't be obvious, use private not chain casions like grosvenor etc and never exceed 8k to be safe. really couldn't be any easier just a bit shit having to spend a few hours there and making sure you don't get carried away!!!!

bout time we see a post from u shitface lol

 

[iiKode]

k.... the taxman and general government departments have full access to any and all bank accounts , however in certain countrys they do not operate the same policy and so a request for info gets told to get fucked , there are only certain banks in the world who act like this the most famous is the swiz , however they charge for having an account so there is an erosion of any funds dropped into there , also there is a paper trail as money will be transferred from one account to another ( cops have to know the source mind ) that is unless your happy to fly over and deposit , only really worth having if your a serious player plus if theres an award against you then the court may chase the paper trail and fine you way more that whats in the account , an example is a fella who was a grower , had a half decent set up , cunts took his door off , they found he had deposited money in spain and transferred this to offshore , they stuck him in prison and gave him extra time unless he payed a decent fine into the treasury the dirty fuckers

yeah you cleared that up for me, best bet would be to open you own small buisness like a subway, or tanning salon, then nobody can tell you how much ur making, just put a fixed amount in everymonth, however much you need, then once youv had that for a bit, open another and so on, tanning salon, nail salon, anything small, anything that people use realy? so you cant be tracked and told you aint making that amount in that buisness?

 

[moggggys]

only on for 2 mins lads got duties to perform lol

hope everyones all good,

the magic number in the casino used to be 10grand this amount or higher would have to be recorded, I've seen 9k being cashed in more times than I could count, go straight to the cash desk and buy in for cash chips, pick a percentage to lose and stick to it, spend several hours playing for low amounts and then cash out and leave with a cheque to be paid into your bank----clean legit money, if your going to do this don't be obvious and play red and black on roulette, mix it up black jack is your best odds and playing several games around the room makes it near impossible to see what your winning and losing in the pit.
Always go to a private casino as they're happy to take your money and generally don't give a shit as long as you lose a few quid 10% seemed to be the usual amount for the regulars when I was in the game and several would repeat the process nightly, just remember don't be obvious, use private not chain casions like grosvenor etc and never exceed 8k to be safe. really couldn't be any easier just a bit shit having to spend a few hours there and making sure you don't get carried away!!!!

aha , not sure if times have changed but still

any amount can and will be reported , if its considered an unusual amount then theres a legal duty to report it , this is generally triggered at 2 grand but can be lower or higher , this is for all cash handling be it the casino or bank , if you crack the 10 grand its then compulsory that its considered for investigation , this is home office guidelines that everyone has to adhere to , this is why HSBC are in the shit as they didnt bother when it came to transactions in jersey and Guernsey thinking the were nt 10% part of the uk ( wrong oops )

 

[W Dragon]

bout time we see a post from u shitface lol

lol off up to bedd with the misses in a couple of mins just came on and seen ya casino comment and thought i'd elaborate considering how easy it is mate, I know i can go into a few casino's now depending on their discretion and I'll be doing it myself to justify some of our larger purchases

 

[W Dragon]

aha , not sure if times have changed but still

any amount can and will be reported , if its considered an unusual amount then theres a legal duty to report it , this is generally triggered at 2 grand but can be lower or higher , this is for all cash handling be it the casino or bank , if you crack the 10 grand its then compulsory that its considered for investigation , this is home office guidelines that everyone has to adhere to , this is why HSBC are in the shit as they didnt bother when it came to transactions in jersey and Guernsey thinking the were nt 10% part of the uk ( wrong oops )

Your right mate but this is generally only done when some changes their amount drastically I.E going from 50quid a night to 5G, the chain casino's are generally quite shitty as they don't need the money like the smaller private casino's that rely on regulars and the small amounts that add up, I've seen it happen blatantly on many occasions and heard and been told not to worry about it as it pays our wages and we wasn't doing anything wrong in taking their money, as a croupier your job is to take their money not be concerned with how they earn it.

 

[moggggys]

yeah you cleared that up for me, best bet would be to open you own small buisness like a subway, or tanning salon, then nobody can tell you how much ur making, just put a fixed amount in everymonth, however much you need, then once youv had that for a bit, open another and so on, tanning salon, nail salon, anything small, anything that people use realy? so you cant be tracked and told you aint making that amount in that buisness?

yes and no , you dont want to be lashing out cash to cover rent on a place you dont use and the red tapes a proper cunt , much better to aim at something that requires little paperwork , imagine if you will your a taxi driver , its cash all the way , you have a car that your paying for so a loan that reduces the tax bill plus the general wear and tear on the cab , you have to pay rent on the radio etc unless you get an opperators licence at which point the paper trails is full of lovely receipts ( phones etc ) , you pop out and buy a car which shows your paperworks correct and do go through with a licence and taxi plate , then its a simple case of paying an accountant once a year and the tax man , you drop cash into the bank to cover everything and no-one knows any different

but making up a job and being ``moblie `` is where its at , think chippy van etc etc , car valetting ,,, the list goes on

 

[IC3M4L3]

il take w dragons word

and like any of us have that kind of money to launder, il tell u how i launder my money

the wife gets it,, thats it really once thats happend its gone lmao

 

[W Dragon]

@moggs as you said mate the only amount that was compulsory was 10k when I was there anything less was simply ignored

 

[newuserlol]

imc your inbox is full i carnt message you delete some mate.

 

[imcjayt]

done.........

imc your inbox is full i carnt message you delete some mate.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

my best mate W dragon was also a croupier for many years and hes seen it done many times.

Years ago you might have got away with it maybe but not any more, since the "proceeds of crime" bollocks they went silly and wrote certain responsibility's into the casino's licensing objectives.
You have to provide ID when you hit £1000 these days and that's collective, they may well let you keep visiting and paying (they want the money after all) but trust me they inform the authorities as to your actions.

 

[iiKode]

yes and no , you dont want to be lashing out cash to cover rent on a place you dont use and the red tapes a proper cunt , much better to aim at something that requires little paperwork , imagine if you will your a taxi driver , its cash all the way , you have a car that your paying for so a loan that reduces the tax bill plus the general wear and tear on the cab , you have to pay rent on the radio etc unless you get an opperators licence at which point the paper trails is full of lovely receipts ( phones etc ) , you pop out and buy a car which shows your paperworks correct and do go through with a licence and taxi plate , then its a simple case of paying an accountant once a year and the tax man , you drop cash into the bank to cover everything and no-one knows any different

but making up a job and being ``moblie `` is where its at , think chippy van etc etc , car valetting ,,, the list goes on

ahha, so in reality of this little story, you will have a taxi thats never used as a taxi, but you say it is, then you can whip up 900 a night no problem, esp on the weekend, and nobody knows any different, it goes through the books and is classed as legal, not to shabby, actually, very smart.

 

[iiKode]

il take w dragons word

and like any of us have that kind of money to launder, il tell u how i launder my money

the wife gets it,, thats it really once thats happend its gone lmao

lmao yeah woman can "launder"that money real good, i gave my mam a ton last round, next day she asked, well told me to give her some more, ended up getting the telle jus to shut her up

 

[iiKode]

Years ago you might have got away with it maybe but not any more, since the "proceeds of crime" bollocks they went silly and wrote certain responsibility's into the casino's licensing objectives.
You have to provide ID when you hit £1000 these days and that's collective, they may well let you keep visiting and paying (they want the money after all) but trust me they inform the authorities as to your actions.

i know it might sound like a movie here, but thats where fak id's come into play, you can open another bank account just for that, then when u get nicked, you are identity x, that only grows and has no money.

think about it like you are giving the money to a completley different person, but that other person is you, you get nicked with ur plants, sombody else (you) has all that hard earned cash stashed away

 

[moggggys]

il take w dragons word

and like any of us have that kind of money to launder, il tell u how i launder my money

the wife gets it,, thats it really once thats happend its gone lmao

£200 today for ``stuff``

stuff turned out to be make up and a dress from next

 

[newuserlol]

man this being off the booze is sending me abit crazy i dont want to wind anyone up or act a twat lmao