LEDs Stripping Back the BS. Vegging 6 Clones under 22 Watts
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PetFlora
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I have been thinking about the 22w Utilitech under canopy: it looks more like 4500-5000K than 3000K- more yellow than red
Yesterday morning I decided to replace it with one of the Cree WWs
It could be my imagination, but it sure seems like there are considerably more pistils in < 20 hours of light
Pics tomorrow
Yesterday morning I decided to replace it with one of the Cree WWs
It could be my imagination, but it sure seems like there are considerably more pistils in < 20 hours of light
Pics tomorrow
burnedout1958
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Done brother. I must have misunderstood what it was about, and just got excited, my wife and I have freaks about LED's for 10 years now, gone thru mani iterations of the off shelf types. I love this thread. good post
PetFlora
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Thanks for pulling it and for the nice comments
I went way down that DIY led road. It taught me a lot. If I had the skillz and the tools to build/trouble shoot, I would have built a couple by now
But I do know how to rewire a fixture to retrofit for led tubes, and so far, the tubes + the globes are rockin it
I went way down that DIY led road. It taught me a lot. If I had the skillz and the tools to build/trouble shoot, I would have built a couple by now
But I do know how to rewire a fixture to retrofit for led tubes, and so far, the tubes + the globes are rockin it
burnedout1958
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I have gone thru about 4 or 5 set of bulbs in the house , the first 2 or 3 sets were spot style that went into the recessed cans in my ceilings and the track lighting I put in the kitchen. right now using cree style spot lights all over, when we first did this our electric bill went down 60 to 70 per month. only have one CFL left in the kitchen and my wife wants one of these http://www.lightingquote.com/ATG-Electronics-iBright-E58i-T8-LED-Tube-HO-Version/ it's plug and play flourescent replacement for the same fixture, just have to disconnect the ballast and feed it straight 120
captainmorgan
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Pet,I made 4 of these the other day with Cree 2700k and placed them in between my plants in my larger cabinet for under canopy supplemental lighting.
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PetFlora
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I was able to buy iBrights direct from ATG @ $35, minimum order $100. Pretty sure I can hook you up
burnedout1958
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ok will contact you, when I'm ready thanks
PetFlora
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CM, why no signature link to your thread? HEY EVERYBODY, YOU GOTTA CHECK OUT WHAT CM IS DOING WITH CREE GLOBES
Chronikool
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How many days 12/12 is this? Pulling around 120 watts?
PetFlora
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Now if I made a spread sheet this could be quickly answered. Maybe one day. Anybody have a template?
Ah, there's my diary.
I added the 4 led tubes on 6 /19-20, but flipped to 12/12 on 6/4. So for 15 days they were only under globes. As soon as I essentially doubled the lumens the plants began to fatten up
Ah, there's my diary.
I added the 4 led tubes on 6 /19-20, but flipped to 12/12 on 6/4. So for 15 days they were only under globes. As soon as I essentially doubled the lumens the plants began to fatten up
Chronikool
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Oh yip...so day 42. (ish) Sorry i was asking about the CURRENT power used....i counted 120 watts (roughly) But you take out globes and change them all the time... so thats a guess 
PetFlora
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Sometimes, I completely miss something that could be significant
Case in point:
I originally bought 3 WW and one NW led tubes
If you recall one WW had ~ 8 unlit diodes in the middle. While waiting for the replacement, I added the NW, which has been there ever since.
It finally dawned on me, I'm guessing 90% WW is much better during flower than 100% NW. Swap done.
The plants definitely look more green, the color in the tent looks more yellow/red
If they seem lacking in blue, I can simply add a couple NW globes to the vanity fixture
Case in point:
I originally bought 3 WW and one NW led tubes
If you recall one WW had ~ 8 unlit diodes in the middle. While waiting for the replacement, I added the NW, which has been there ever since.
It finally dawned on me, I'm guessing 90% WW is much better during flower than 100% NW. Swap done.
The plants definitely look more green, the color in the tent looks more yellow/red
If they seem lacking in blue, I can simply add a couple NW globes to the vanity fixture
PetFlora
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I have been having pH issues with one of the plants. Odd as they get the exact same everything. So check your dwc rezes twice a week (or more) during flower.
It occurred to me to flush the plants, which is super easy with the net pot lids. Simply have 2 more buckets filled to the cover the roots, toss the air stones then put plant on top
While flushing, I decided to take new pics. Fresh nutes 1000ppm @ 6.0. PPMs up from ~ 850 to enhance bud swell. Will back down to ~ 800 next time (5-7 days)
Comparing trics to same clones harvested under 324w of HOT5s using UVL RedLifes + ZooMed Flurosuns+ Coral Waves, even though the total led wattage is 1/3, trics are more plentiful
Also note a dried bud pic from my HOT5 grow of the same clones. 177gm wet (including main stalk)is 24gms dry- minus the stems, so ~ 20gms. OUCH
It occurred to me to flush the plants, which is super easy with the net pot lids. Simply have 2 more buckets filled to the cover the roots, toss the air stones then put plant on top
While flushing, I decided to take new pics. Fresh nutes 1000ppm @ 6.0. PPMs up from ~ 850 to enhance bud swell. Will back down to ~ 800 next time (5-7 days)
Comparing trics to same clones harvested under 324w of HOT5s using UVL RedLifes + ZooMed Flurosuns+ Coral Waves, even though the total led wattage is 1/3, trics are more plentiful
Also note a dried bud pic from my HOT5 grow of the same clones. 177gm wet (including main stalk)is 24gms dry- minus the stems, so ~ 20gms. OUCH
PetFlora
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It seems sampling this currently curing harvest makes me chatty lol
Since raising the lights 2 days ago, it occurred to me that I was still using one NW, although it was on the outside, where the flaps are mostly open
1/3 WWs was defective as new; 10 diodes in the middle were not working. The replacement has been in the box for 3 weeks. Why dumb-ass, WHY?
Anyway, I put it in place of the NW, meaning that all ~ 110w in the tent is WW.
Using my hand as a guide, it seems the sweet spot is ~ 4" below the bulbs, so I lowered them, and moved the plants & lights as far back so I could to take advantage of any reflected light.
Also hoping this will make it easier for my DIY swamp cooler to keep temps under 80 inside the 2 x 4 tent
As I recall these look similar in size and shape as their sisters did under the HOT5s. However, it seems like the led clones are way ahead tric wise, not sure about bud size though it is early, only now developing calyxes
Since raising the lights 2 days ago, it occurred to me that I was still using one NW, although it was on the outside, where the flaps are mostly open
1/3 WWs was defective as new; 10 diodes in the middle were not working. The replacement has been in the box for 3 weeks. Why dumb-ass, WHY?
Anyway, I put it in place of the NW, meaning that all ~ 110w in the tent is WW.
Using my hand as a guide, it seems the sweet spot is ~ 4" below the bulbs, so I lowered them, and moved the plants & lights as far back so I could to take advantage of any reflected light.
Also hoping this will make it easier for my DIY swamp cooler to keep temps under 80 inside the 2 x 4 tent
As I recall these look similar in size and shape as their sisters did under the HOT5s. However, it seems like the led clones are way ahead tric wise, not sure about bud size though it is early, only now developing calyxes
PetFlora
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I may make a new thread for this, but I had a brain fart and wondering whether anybody has tried insulating their tents. 4 X 8 sheets of foil backed foam are available at Lowes/HD, plus they will cut them for for you
Best part is they are totally reversible and inexpensive
Best part is they are totally reversible and inexpensive