Noob Nutrient Issues - Any advice appreciated

DanKill1

Member
Don't test the soil. Soil testers are useless. Know what is going in and test what is coming out if you're in this situation and don't listen to people on the internet diagnose your pictures until you are certain.
Exactly what I've been using...thanks for that...I will toss it.
 

Sheesh420

Member
Like the previous poster said, pH tester $20 and you can't go wrong. Go get some pH down and up... don't use lime or lemon if you don't have to.

Also, it is the law in most states that municipal water supplies must provide info to consumer on what is found in their water. Most of them have web sites that will tell you everything including chlorine and chloramine levels. Not many use Chloramine in my area.

You can get some stuff from laguna and tetra pond koi pond companies that will instantly remove all chlorine (check the bottle for chloramine). It's safe for fish and plants and it's about the only thing that will remove chloramine if you have it in your tap supply. Chloramine will not evaporate from water like chlorine does so be careful. It is safe to use and it requires only a couple drops per 5gal treatment so a bottle lasts FOREVA.
 

DanKill1

Member
Like the previous poster said, pH tester $20 and you can't go wrong. Go get some pH down and up... don't use lime or lemon if you don't have to.

Also, it is the law in most states that municipal water supplies must provide info to consumer on what is found in their water. Most of them have web sites that will tell you everything including chlorine and chloramine levels. Not many use Chloramine in my area.

You can get some stuff from laguna and tetra pond koi pond companies that will instantly remove all chlorine (check the bottle for chloramine). It's safe for fish and plants and it's about the only thing that will remove chloramine if you have it in your tap supply. Chloramine will not evaporate from water like chlorine does so be careful. It is safe to use and it requires only a couple drops per 5gal treatment so a bottle lasts FOREVA.
Thanks...Chloride level 117 ppm Chlorine 2.1ppm and chromium less than 10 ppbillion...are these ok? Will the let stand overnight method work?
 

Sheesh420

Member
Yeah let it sit for at least 12-24 hours to let the chlorine evaporate. You can let it sit for much less (a few hours)if you place an air stone or small fish pump in the container for that time.
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
No I believed you. Just new here work with me;)
Just razzin ya man.
You are doing fine.
You need to be able to take info given, and use your common sense to differentiate the Bullshit from the good, but it makes it a little easier when more than one person says the same thing.:mrgreen:
 

Sheesh420

Member
Nice call Bakatare!

Dan - So probable diagnosis is high chloride count/pH and we're going to do better at pH testing and chlorine removal before we see recovery pics?

Btw hit those plants with some super thrive if you can... it will help them recover sooner. About $10-20 for a small bottle and last really long. You can use in soil and/or spray feeding as instructed on the bottle... and you really can't use too much... but don't try.
 

DanKill1

Member
Nice call Bakatare!

Dan - So probable diagnosis is high chloride count/pH and we're going to do better at pH testing and chlorine removal before we see recovery pics?

Btw hit those plants with some super thrive if you can... it will help them recover sooner. About $10-20 for a small bottle and last really long. You can use in soil and/or spray feeding as instructed on the bottle... and you really can't use too much... but don't try.
Ok..so based on all the responses....Im thinking mag deficiency due to PH. I will flush tomorrow after I let tap sit for 12 hours...6 gallon flush for 2 gallon pot using PH down if needed...last gallon to include 1/4 nutes....then wait it out? Sounds correct? I really appreciate all the help...
 

SxIstew

Well-Known Member
DO NOT ADD ANYTHING TO WATER YOU ARE FLUSHING WITH. you will make the problem much worse if you adjust the pH to much at one time. pH adjustment takes some time and patients. so just listen to what people are saying. I believe you were told to get pH + for future use. if your nute water is coming out to low, when you mix nutes again(after solving your problem) you MAY need to raise the pH slightly so that your plant has the proper uptake.
 

DanKill1

Member
DO NOT ADD ANYTHING TO WATER YOU ARE FLUSHING WITH. you will make the problem much worse if you adjust the pH to much at one time. pH adjustment takes some time and patients. so just listen to what people are saying. I believe you were told to get pH + for future use. if your nute water is coming out to low, when you mix nutes again(after solving your problem) you MAY need to raise the pH slightly so that your plant has the proper uptake.
My tap water is high Ph so I thought I would have to get PH down to make sure its in the proper range...I wont add anything including nutes...Lime not included or do I add it?
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
Ok..so based on all the responses....Im thinking mag deficiency due to PH. I will flush tomorrow after I let tap sit for 12 hours...6 gallon flush for 2 gallon pot using PH down if needed...last gallon to include 1/4 nutes....then wait it out? Sounds correct? I really appreciate all the help...
Actually, if it was me, I would flush with straight tap, nothing added, and add nothing until next time you water after letting it dry out good.
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
My tap water is high Ph so I thought I would have to get PH down to make sure its in the proper range...I wont add anything including nutes...Lime not included or do I add it?
Especially if you didn't mix in any lime when you potted, I think the 7.0 tap will be fine.
Like I said, my tap is coming out at 7.9, and the only thing I add is nutes when they are hungry.
 

Sheesh420

Member
Dan, the flush is a standard precaution to take when you don't know but find out what your runoff is first and then you at least know nothing's getting locked out and it's probably something you're doing with nutes that is causing a def/tox. Depending on your nutes, mixing 7.0 water and nutes is a crap shoot if you're not checking the pH before it goes it. My girls are happy at 6.2 to 6.3 going in and 6.5 coming out using promix and an organic/synthetic nute system, some in 3 gals and some in 5 gals.
 

DanKill1

Member
Dan, the flush is a standard precaution to take when you don't know but find out what your runoff is first and then you at least know nothing's getting locked out and it's probably something you're doing with nutes that is causing a def/tox. Depending on your nutes, mixing 7.0 water and nutes is a crap shoot if you're not checking the pH before it goes it. My girls are happy at 6.2 to 6.3 going in and 6.5 coming out using promix and an organic/synthetic nute system, some in 3 gals and some in 5 gals.
Man...you guys rock. I've checked the runoff before and it was lower than 6.5 coming out. Again I'm using a color scale so not exactly sure. So to clarify....run tap...6 gallons per plant after 12 hour dwell. Check soil ph then check runoff....leave nutes alone until needed. Sorry to keep asking but am I expecting change by the week or two weeks in? How do I know as all the affected leaves are dying off do I expect new growth? I'm going to keep asking gents...soaking up your knowledge.
 
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