Skywalker OG, Hempy Bucket Grow, Area-51 LED's

[The Dawg]

Thanks for subbing up Brotha Dawg! We got a real party now. Thanks for the info on that... I've had mixed inputs regarding light height with these. I accidentally let the plants get to within 15" the other day with no ill effects but quickly backed them off to ≈17". I've been checking leaf tops with an IR temperature gun and seeing ≈82°. These do radiate some energy don't they.....

Whats Up Brother.I Dont Find That These SGS's Run Hot.I Have No Problem Running My Temps At 75 Or 79.Of Course Im A Firm Beliver In Passive Cooling And It Helps To Have Central Heat And A/C.In My SGS Tent I Have 4)10 Inch Fans Blowing Up Into my Canopy.I Also Have A TD-Slient 150 Running On Low.
May I Suggest Adding Fans To Your Grow Area.

 

[The Dawg]

Brotha Dawg, if your watchin, note that my previous post of the root zone did not mention "root porn". You "own" root porn Brotha Dawg.....I only wish I could run DWC in my hot climate....maybe I'll give it a jab during winter one year.

Thank You Brother.I Do Love Root Porn But Im A Provert Go Figure.Now If We Can Get Your Canopy Temp Down To 79 That Would Mean Your Res Temp Would Run 74 At Its Highest Point And With The EWC Tea This Makes Growing Hydro In The Summer A Breeze

 

[prosperian]

Hey jela, subbed the thread. I just installed the same LED panel on my current grow (post #575). Been reading up on your results with the hardware. Nice job.

 

[MrEDuck]

Nice looking grow man, I'm subbed. You answered the question of if plants would totally outgrow my space in 2gal buckets.
I've gotta say in reading the hempy threads you all do seem like nice folks. Definitely helped my decision to make teh switch.

 

[jela10]

Whats Up Brother.I Dont Find That These SGS's Run Hot.I Have No Problem Running My Temps At 75 Or 79.Of Course Im A Firm Beliver In Passive Cooling And It Helps To Have Central Heat And A/C.In My SGS Tent I Have 4)10 Inch Fans Blowing Up Into my Canopy.I Also Have A TD-Slient 150 Running On Low.
May I Suggest Adding Fans To Your Grow Area.

Dawg, here's my situation....it's currently 110° outside...it's usually 115-117° right now so I feel blessed. I have central A/C but the room my tent is in is at the end of a long run of duct-line through the attic so that room runs warmer ≈81° ambient in the hottest part of the summer. I have a 160CFM exhaust fan setup as passive, exhausting to the roof top, that will literally suck the tent walls in to near-collapse if dialed up on high. My climate is so arrid, when I put an oscillating fan blowing directly on the plants canopy they get wind burned and ugly really fast so I oscillate it at the bucket level to keep air circulating at the plant bases and aid transpiration of the coco. If I crank up my exhaust, the make-up air is drawn through our kitchen of all places...at a vent duct behind the microwave oven. Then the kitchen gets too hot. If I crank down the AC to drop the 81° ambient in the warm room, it runs full time without stopping. I've chased this round and round but somehow grow good plants with canopy @ 82° - 87° (tis the reason I'm in hempy buckets actually). I see chillers that I could run for recirc in a DWC setup, but that would sit outside the tent and it's exhaust would increase the ambient temp there too. I'm kinda screwed unless it a cooler time of year when temps inside drop to to the 70's (Nov-March).

 

[jela10]

Day 4, they hit 26" today. New growth tips popping multiple heads now...lots of spikes at the nodes but not one flower yet. Now is when you hope like hell the mother plant was a female. It was from femmed seed. They are drinking like fish..they'll need feeding by EOD based on bucket weight so a 3day water frequency will be there schedule for the rest of flowering. One thing I've noticed with rockwool as the res medium.... I can take then down till that bucket is really light without signs of leaf droop. Gives those roots a dose of air...which they love. I get a nice growth spurt on the next feeding.

 

[prosperian]

Looking really good Jela. I like your two panel setup. Check back with you later.

 

[whocares100]

Jela how u feeling about the lights right now? Enough coverage? and temps good? And what about the sound?

Prosp, I checked your grow and will be watching it too, I like the lights...

 

[prosperian]

Whocares100 There is a big difference between my 400w HID and the LED panel. Obvious differences, room temp is 72-73 degrees and limited exhaust running at 30% power to circulate air. Before with two ventilation systems, I was around 80 degrees and lots of noise from both fans running 100%.

Too early for me to tell about growth differences. The plants were under the HID for couple months. Moving over to LED has not phased them negatively at all. I'm seeing nice new growth over the last 5 days since installed.

 

[whocares100]

Prosp, They were under HID before? cool.... How far along are they? I moved mine from CFL to HPS and I'm seeing a world of difference, I think tweeking each grow area to make it the best is the key...

The new growth is in the whole plant or just in the lighted areas? or an increase in buds? And with lower temps are u still ventilating or just using the fans on the lights as air flow...sorry for so many questions...

I'm just trying to figure out if this would be a good 1 cabinet item, so I could just use the light with the fans going and vent it without all the other fans and stuff going, it would make for a better stealth cabinet...

 

[jela10]

Day 5, Still no signs of sex, just prolific growth. I let them get within 12" of the lights all day yesterday with now signs of stress...temps in the tent are 85° max up near the top...81° @ canopy but 82° on the floor. I'm loving the panels, whisper quite, lots of light and the girls are loving them. I measured from the floor today and with the canopy at 36" it's time to start thinking ahead for some support structure. I bought some 3/4" PVC and will be building a trellis similar to SCROG net...that floats higher in the tent. When these get to be monsters with heavy colas I don't want them falling over. I hate having to tie things here and there and run last minute stakes in the buckets..tomato cages...uggh..you know the hassles.

 

[whocares100]

Looking goo Jela, I'm enjoying this grow...

 

[Mad Hamish]

NICE. Subbed up. Looking nice and tidy bet it'll turn out phenomenal.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Day 5, Still no signs of sex, just prolific growth. I let them get within 12" of the lights all day yesterday with now signs of stress...temps in the tent are 85° max up near the top...81° @ canopy but 82° on the floor.

I read on the forums today that a slightly lower temp at the canopy is a sign of good and rapid transpiration Cool to see somebody mention it same day. Helps it stick in the stoned mind lol.

 

[jela10]

Looking the pictures above and my gravity feed watering setup...the two lines below the "Tee" are going to need lengthening for these two girls so I can separate them more...expecting some big'ns. Her'es a shot of the base stem which is just now as large as the 1/2" feed tubing on the watering halo's. These stems will approach the 1" mark by grows end. Also, the start of my 3/4" PVC trellis....I'll drill holes in it tomorrow for the plastic coated clothesline. Thx for the tip Watts!

 

[Mad Hamish]

I see another problem: They're not in MY tent lol... Really looking killer mate.

 

[jela10]

I see another problem: They're not in MY tent lol... Really looking killer mate.

Mad H., welcome over, hope you enjoy the ride. You may change your mind when this tent gets packed. It could get to be a real jungle. I'm really worried....this is my first venture with cloning my own...usually I grow 5 seeds and pick the best pair. These would be ≈14" on day of flip. Here I started at 20" from clones. I always plan for 3X stretch although it could be only 2X with Indy doms.

Day 6, found some pistols "looping" out of their familiar tea pots on both plants. No males thank goodness. Won't be long I'll have to start plucking upper fans that cover cola producing bud sites. Time to start drilling the trellis. I think I'll set the initial height to 36". I'll drill index holes in the legs so it can be raised. Wood dowels telescope nicely in/out the PVC.

 

[prosperian]

Prosp, They were under HID before? cool.... How far along are they? I moved mine from CFL to HPS and I'm seeing a world of difference, I think tweeking each grow area to make it the best is the key...The new growth is in the whole plant or just in the lighted areas? or an increase in buds? And with lower temps are u still ventilating or just using the fans on the lights as air flow...sorry for so many questions...I'm just trying to figure out if this would be a good 1 cabinet item, so I could just use the light with the fans going and vent it without all the other fans and stuff going, it would make for a better stealth cabinet...

No prob, happy to share what I'm doing. My plants have been under 400w MH for about 7 weeks of veg before I purchased the LED panel. Most of the new growth is on the top and sides.

The room is staying below 73 degrees with the LED lights on. I don't use a fan on the canopy with LED, but it's was definitely needed with HPS.

I run constant room ventilation for negative pressure in the room. If I turn the ventilation off in my closet, the house a/c will suck from the attic and pull the closet odors into the house. I'm looking into a flapper on the exhaust port to prevent this so I can shut the system off on a timer.

You should see some amazing results with the HPS. The plants love being blasted with that light and it's so much more powerful than cfl.

 

[psilocybindude]

Those girls are really looking like they are enjoying being under those leds, love the glow too no more orange or raver light tints, i cant wait till those get cheaper so i can pick some up...

 

[jela10]

Wow, poked my head in after the dark period today and they've really stretched...did some light supercropping on the upper growth tips 4" down. Not a complete stem snap, just some squeezing/rotation till you feel several veins pop. It slowed them down in veg...going for another round since its safe in the first week of flower. Got the trellis drilled and threaded with the vinyl coated clothes line. You can't stretch fence on a PVC frame but I think it's tight enough to keep plants upright. Maybe psilo can teach me some SCROG one day with it used in that manner.