Open Show & Tell , Outdoors 2013

Jozikins

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anyone else get hit with these pesky little fuckers
lol, me and tws were giving everyone the heads up last week. I already sprayed for them :) hit them with spinosad or bt and the chewing should slow down by the next day, and depending on which one you used they should be dead pretty quick after that. it's important to reapply after it rains if you don't have a green house, it'll wash off. I like spinosad best because I don't have to cover up like I do with BT.

oh and thanks for the rep!
 

jbrown3

Active Member
so neem wont do the trick with the little ones tho? should i jump on that BT quick? i used the neem last night and it rained lightly today, you think i could spray again tomorrow night?
 

Jozikins

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the plant absorbs the neem through the leaves so you're fine on that. but bt specifically targets them and works faster. it also kills eggs, which may hatch after your buds are nearly done and burrow their way out.
 

ant88

New Member
i use half a dried chili pepper,four drops of dawn concentrate dish liquid and water in a spray bottle (windex) after every rain for all my pest problems. (it even worked on spider mites and melee bugs!)
 

TWS

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Spinosad and BT are both bacteria and systemic ? But Spinosad kills bees if one cares ? I would alternate CP ( a cater pillar killer) and neem . Caterpillars you have to start early. I've seen them and more then usual cabbage moths most of the season, had some early damage.
 

TWS

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As my second OD grow I find myself a lot bigger then what I would prefer . Some say not a bad thing but with height restrictions and security reasons (rough town) it makes for a lot of work . Now one always wants to get a good start because your anxious and some things can go wrong but I think I'm gonna wait a lot later next year. I really only have 4 or so plants of the manageable size I would like. The rest are going ape shit ( more Paranoia... lol ). If I would of not topped, lst , supper crop , tie over and just plain break branches/large tops off most of my grow would be really Fing huge. Boy how I wish I could just let em go.
As I venture into the organic side knowing very little ( there's a lot to understand ) from what I've read here and some great mentors . I'm not sure if cutting out my bucket bottoms was a good idea . Top dressing instead of mixing has been a joy . :weed: With that said, I very happy with the way things have been going and raised the greenhouse roof :weed: the best I could with out being a blow it .:hump: The full moon has been great,, :joint:
 

TWS

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i use half a dried chili pepper,four drops of dawn concentrate dish liquid and water in a spray bottle (windex) after every rain for all my pest problems. (it even worked on spider mites and melee bugs!)
it works on mites cause of their exoskelton, not sure about caterpillars besides maybe a deterent
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
i use half a dried chili pepper,four drops of dawn concentrate dish liquid and water in a spray bottle (windex) after every rain for all my pest problems. (it even worked on spider mites and melee bugs!)
SKeeetttchhhhhh!
Don't knock it 'til you try it. I've used all sorts of crazy concoctions like that, and they work pretty bad ass. All the bugs go flying off your plant at a million miles per hour once you hit them with something like that. I like Spinosad best still.
 

Jozikins

Well-Known Member
Spinosad and BT are both bacteria and systemic ? But Spinosad kills bees if one cares ? I would alternate CP ( a cater pillar killer) and neem . Caterpillars you have to start early. I've seen them and more then usual cabbage moths most of the season, had some early damage.
I don't know if either are systemic, but I did do a little research on the bee thing...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15366583
I guess it's bad news for bees in the first 3 hours, but poses very little risk after that if the sprays aren't heavy doses. I guess I'll alternate BT/Neem for a while because I want to encourage as much bees up here as possible! I need those bees to pollinate my veggies!

As my second OD grow I find myself a lot bigger then what I would prefer . Some say not a bad thing but with height restrictions and security reasons (rough town) it makes for a lot of work . Now one always wants to get a good start because your anxious and some things can go wrong but I think I'm gonna wait a lot later next year. I really only have 4 or so plants of the manageable size I would like. The rest are going ape shit ( more Paranoia... lol ). If I would of not topped, lst , supper crop , tie over and just plain break branches/large tops off most of my grow would be really Fing huge. Boy how I wish I could just let em go.
As I venture into the organic side knowing very little ( there's a lot to understand ) from what I've read here and some great mentors . I'm not sure if cutting out my bucket bottoms was a good idea . Top dressing instead of mixing has been a joy . :weed: With that said, I very happy with the way things have been going and raised the greenhouse roof :weed: the best I could with out being a blow it .:hump: The full moon has been great,, :joint:
Your plants are amazing dude, but it would def be a better idea to start in late May next year. But post up pics of the new raised roof I wanna see that shit. What do you think of top dressing with this seabird guano as far as growth is concerned? I think this shit is fucking gross, I put some in a batch of tea and nearly puked when I got a full open-mouth inhale of the shit-cloud that blew into the air.
 

Lemon king

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It's happening to me this year, brandywines took forever to start to flower, and I hope I get a crop. One of my problems was the flowers they were producing weren't getting pollinated. The bees keep coming later and later every year up hear at my altitude. They should have been buzzing around since mid June. Problem for me right now is that my Squash and Pumpkins are too close to my Pole Beans and Tomatoes, and those bees just can't resist those giant orange blossoms on my Pumpkins and Squash. Pole Beans are still pretty popular with the bees though... I should take garden pictures today. Anyone want some males? I got some males that are nearly in full blossom right now. Phantom Cookies, Qush, Qrazy Train, and I think even a Jedi Kush, pretty sure both ended up being female though, I'll check.

Speaking of pollen, I'm getting some Tahoe OG pollen, I don't know if it's selfed or BX, but I'm so fucking excited to dust that on all my OG hybrids. Cheeseburger, Pakistani Punch, Pink Lemonade, and Girl Scout Cookie are all getting hit with it. Pakistani Punch is already flowered enough to hit with pollen, I fucking love this 6/7 week strain, massive yields of devastating old school kush.
whens the update??
 

MojoRison

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I'm still developing into a "grower" and the one thing that gets my mind going every time is how you guys can get your main stocks so frick'n big, some of those have got be bigger then my forearm lol...kudos to all
 

TWS

Well-Known Member
I don't know if either are systemic, but I did do a little research on the bee thing...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15366583
I guess it's bad news for bees in the first 3 hours, but poses very little risk after that if the sprays aren't heavy doses. I guess I'll alternate BT/Neem for a while because I want to encourage as much bees up here as possible! I need those bees to pollinate my veggies!


Your plants are amazing dude, but it would def be a better idea to start in late May next year. But post up pics of the new raised roof I wanna see that shit. What do you think of top dressing with this seabird guano as far as growth is concerned? I think this shit is fucking gross, I put some in a batch of tea and nearly puked when I got a full open-mouth inhale of the shit-cloud that blew into the air.
You mean pop seeds in late May ? Cause I went outside in ground On Mothers day/mid may. It's kinda Risky but I was thinking , Pop seeds May first and go out June to mid June ? I'll show you the raised roof later. I used some small buckets and did like a tent effect. Stretched the shit out of my Ag plastic. I mighta gained 2 more feet in the center where I need it. After this Im SOL. I like the seabird quano even though it's pretty foul. ( lol. no pun ) It has both high N & P . I quit making teas when they stopped selling it for a while because of all the mammal deaths over in Piru. I use Mexican and seabird with alfalfa top dress for vegg with some molasses, floralucious plus and dry kelp waterings , calmag and micros as needed . For flower I use seabird and Jamaican with some Indonesian Thrown in there in late flower for a boost. I got a lot of catching up to read here on the thread. Your Patio is looking bomb, I will have to take a better look, and my pumpkins suck too. Get em as big as pot you have.
 

jbrown3

Active Member
well i got a netting completely covering my grow so no bees are in there to hurt. so spinosad is the best, even better than safer caterpillar killer
 
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