Anyone have any real knowlege with suboxon ???

[Mr.Vega]

Mr. Vega, I appreciate all ur knowledge on the subs, I left early Fri. & have tried it with the 8 twice a day like they sent me home on because of my insurance not wanting to pay for what I was on in there for my short few days. The 8 twice a day didn't work, but Im trying 8 three times a day now & it seems to b working out ok. I hear u when u say its one or the other, & ur completely correct. Once a tecato loco, always. But Im giving this a go & selling off all my patches & hydros just to further help... By the way I just love ur profile pic, maybe if they quit raiding our apt. complex I will get to keep mine going all the time so Im not going thru dry times.

no prob...and thank u

 

[MrEDuck]

When I stopped noticing if I took it or not, somewhere around a 0.05-0.10mg/day, I don't recall exactly. I made a solution of known concentration and diluted it when it got hard to measure.

 

[beuffer420]

I've taken subs before but for me I found methadone worked great in my case but over a 200 dollar habit a day(been clean for five years now.)

one thing you have to keep in mind is, it's gonna hurt to get off anything your that acquired to. Shit there's somedays I still feel like I'm in withdraw and haven't taken any opiates in five years. Keep your mind positive and really, you have to want to b off this stuff it's a battle most def.

just work the decrease and you'll b fine. May not feel the best but you still aren't gonna b in straight withdraw. I pray for all of you still suffering and hope you can fathom the power to overcome! There was a day when I had accepted I was gonna die of overdose, still not sure how it happened exactly but my thoughts changed and I overcame.

You will thank yourself when you can sleep and wake up without having to have a dose to make you even get out of bed

 

[tyedyed60]

I hear u beuffer, its a bitch no matter what ur drug is & yes after the physical its a constant mental battle the rest of ur life. Today has been rough so I was doing 12mg 3 times a day cause if I only did it twice like they want I was back sick again. It really sucks that my apt complex keeps getting raided cause they always want to hit my place cause I have a life tail & I cant get another crop going cause it aint worth it. In all honesty, herb actually helped me better than all the pain meds I was taking, but here in bum fuck Mo. it aint legal. Hell I now wish I never left Cali. My hats off to all of u doing & going thru this & keep on keeping on...

 

[Mr.Vega]

I hear u beuffer, its a bitch no matter what ur drug is & yes after the physical its a constant mental battle the rest of ur life. Today has been rough so I was doing 12mg 3 times a day cause if I only did it twice like they want I was back sick again. It really sucks that my apt complex keeps getting raided cause they always want to hit my place cause I have a life tail & I cant get another crop going cause it aint worth it. In all honesty, herb actually helped me better than all the pain meds I was taking, but here in bum fuck Mo. it aint legal. Hell I now wish I never left Cali. My hats off to all of u doing & going thru this & keep on keeping on...

subs stay w for a long time...I feel u may b wasting them by taking 12mgs 3 times a day...I do it sometimes searching for a hi but subs dont work like that...u should really only dose once a day and take all that ur gonna take that day in one dose...even if its 24mgs thats fine dose the 24 then re dose 24hrs later...otherwise ur fkn w ur system...imo

 

[Mr.Vega]

I hear u beuffer, its a bitch no matter what ur drug is & yes after the physical its a constant mental battle the rest of ur life. Today has been rough so I was doing 12mg 3 times a day cause if I only did it twice like they want I was back sick again. It really sucks that my apt complex keeps getting raided cause they always want to hit my place cause I have a life tail & I cant get another crop going cause it aint worth it. In all honesty, herb actually helped me better than all the pain meds I was taking, but here in bum fuck Mo. it aint legal. Hell I now wish I never left Cali. My hats off to all of u doing & going thru this & keep on keeping on...

subs stay w u for a long time...I feel u may b wasting them by taking 12mgs 3 times a day...I do it sometimes searching for a hi but subs dont work like that...u should really only dose once a day and take all that ur gonna take that day in one dose...even if its 24mgs thats fine dose the 24 then re dose 24hrs later...otherwise ur fkn w ur system...imo

 

[HeartlandHank]

You will thank yourself when you can sleep and wake up without having to have a dose to make you even get out of bed

...taking a leisure shit every morning with coffee and a cigarette. Peeing a steady stream. Being able to drive for more than 20 mins without nodding off. A sex drive.

 

[MrEDuck]

It's amazing how awesome that list can be when you kick!

 

[racerboy71]

I've been weaning off of done for a few months now..
Was only at a high of 50 MG's a day, now down to 15.. came down 1 mg per week.. I stopped @ 15 as I was starting to feel it a bit as I came straight down with no breaks..
Been at 15 now for a few months now and am about ready to start coming down slowly again as I'm feeling good and haven't used in the 12 years I've been there ..
I don't really see an issue coming off completely so long as I take my time coming down and stop for a bit if I start to feel shakey at all as I'm in no rush..
I think a big part of it's simply going to be mental though..

To the op.. good luck m8! You've got this.

 

[Mr.Vega]

I've been weaning off of done for a few months now..
Was only at a high of 50 MG's a day, now down to 15.. came down 1 mg per week.. I stopped @ 15 as I was starting to feel it a bit as I came straight down with no breaks..
Been at 15 now for a few months now and am about ready to start coming down slowly again as I'm feeling good and haven't used in the 12 years I've been there ..
I don't really see an issue coming off completely so long as I take my time coming down and stop for a bit if I start to feel shakey at all as I'm in no rush..
I think a big part of it's simply going to be mental though..

To the op.. good luck m8! You've got this.

yeah man dont rush it...jumping off at even 1mg is ruff...it is mental but w opiates the physical is very real....good luck man....i tried to kick done too fast n cldnt but I did dose myself down to a low enuf dose to switch to subs....I could deal w most of the wds...the uneasyness/shakyness..sweating..shitting...complete miserable depressed feelings of hopelessness...all a walk in a park to an old dope head like me...the motherfucking son of a bitchin RLS...OMG it drove me crazy...id tear up a bed in 30mins n my wife would b on the couch (how fkn cold is that by the way?..im withdrawaling n floppin like a fish outta water convulsing in the bed n she goes n sleeps on the couch)...I fought it for amonth n it never got bttr only worse it seemed...thats when I got on subs...I jumped off done at 30mgs..stupid I knw...it was a finacial thing tho..and my foolishness thinkin I could battle the wds w weed and xanies...nope...I could sit n smoke an eighth n cldnt get hi...it was like I was trippin or somthin..cldnt sleep...it was a nightmare.

 

[Indagrow]

I found once you withdraw it's much better to just battle the mental aspect of it.. The physical lingers but it's really those pseudo "lower back pains" that will get you in the end. If you have a stable life emotions wise and don't need to quell your problems with opioids it is a lot easier. I haven't touched an opioid since 5/3/13 and I went from 3 bags of brown a day to nothing. It was hell, and rightfully so that shit is the devil and if your going to dance with it you need to feel its wrath. Once I experienced coming off I realized how sick the drug actually is, my body felt like that no for something I had taken but for simply not taking something (which scared the shit out of me). A lot of my friends are hooked on subs and personally I think it's even worse than the drug itself. Only because people say its,okay, insurance helps pay for it, and it makes you feel like you don't have a problem. I recommend cold turnkey but everyone is different, defiantly do a slow taper if you have to use subs otherwise you will have bad days and just move back up which seems to be what you are doing with the 3x a day. Best of luck to you tyedye the best days are ahead of you man you got this!


p.s. that Passages Malibu center makes me want to start up again just so I can quit there haha the commercials look far to nice, the president Pax sounds fake too hahah

 

[tyedyed60]

Hey Mr. Vega, I hear ya. I did the same thing with done, I was supposedly on over Cali's state limit at 80 mg juice everyday & for a long time still shooting on top of it. Im trying ur idea today of one dose only & going a 20 but I split the doses an hr. apart to b safe because if I were to catch a good high I may do something stupid !!! But thus far its not really too bad, but now all my junkie friends r better friends because they all want these strips rather than their mores. That's another thing that sucks about living here in the Ozarks (BFE) theres NO heroin, or coke, u would have to drive to St. Louis, or Kansas city to find any. Here everyone's into this new go fast or pills & I don't know if that's a good thing or it sucks. Hell I have been back here way too long, I need to move back to Cali where at least I can have my perpetual herb garden going & enjoy life in the sequoias or on the beach again. Well everyone have a great day & keep on keeping on

 

[Mr.Vega]

I found once you withdraw it's much better to just battle the mental aspect of it.. The physical lingers but it's really those pseudo "lower back pains" that will get you in the end. If you have a stable life emotions wise and don't need to quell your problems with opioids it is a lot easier. I haven't touched an opioid since 5/3/13 and I went from 3 bags of brown a day to nothing. It was hell, and rightfully so that shit is the devil and if your going to dance with it you need to feel its wrath. Once I experienced coming off I realized how sick the drug actually is, my body felt like that no for something I had taken but for simply not taking something (which scared the shit out of me). A lot of my friends are hooked on subs and personally I think it's even worse than the drug itself. Only because people say its,okay, insurance helps pay for it, and it makes you feel like you don't have a problem. I recommend cold turnkey but everyone is different, defiantly do a slow taper if you have to use subs otherwise you will have bad days and just move back up which seems to be what you are doing with the 3x a day. Best of luck to you tyedye the best days are ahead of you man you got this!


p.s. that Passages Malibu center makes me want to start up again just so I can quit there haha the commercials look far to nice, the president Pax sounds fake too hahah

U cant quit cold turkey when u have to work for a living...nobody can work goin thru real deal wds...and im on subs and I know I have a prob...ive straight up told my doc im addicted to subs obvi very physically but also even more mentally...its my daily get up n go to work...2strips a bowl of dank coffee n a cig n im out the door...every livin day of my life....I KNOW KNOW KNOW KNOW that when he starts tapering me n it gets to a low dose ima have issues w it....I know opiate addiction maintenance drugs are the worst road to take but what choice do I have..or most ppl...normal ppl cant afford $300 a day on dope forever n quittings no option...cant work sick...so what do u do???...methadone or subs...now its all to late once u realize this...so u just move on n roll w the punches as they come...what choice do u have?...lay down n give up?...life of an addict.

 

[HeartlandHank]

I've been weaning off of done for a few months now..
Was only at a high of 50 MG's a day, now down to 15..

Damn Racer, 15mg is very good. Way down.

 

[Mr.Vega]

And its way worse than just some minor lower bk pains...im not tryin to b mean but idk what kinda wds uve been having...lucky fucker.....thats like day two....try day oh say 16-18-20.....comin off a real dope life....I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

 

[woody333333]

And its way worse than just some minor lower bk pains...im not tryin to b mean but idk what kinda wds uve been having...lucky fucker.....thats like day two....try day oh say 16-18-20.....comin off a real dope life....I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

seems like youre full of excuses............but thats how it works........ u wont quit til youre ready

 

[aknight3]

i took 15mg when i first got off dope....im down to 2mg per day, it saved my life...what do you need to know about it? ive been on it for a year.

 

[Indagrow]

And its way worse than just some minor lower bk pains...im not tryin to b mean but idk what kinda wds uve been having...lucky fucker.....thats like day two....try day oh say 16-18-20.....comin off a real dope life....I wouldnt wish it on anyone.

I did 1.5 grams of quality dope a day at a minimum for two solid years.. I'm three months clean and the lower back pains are just your mind saying its okay.. It's you rationalizing getting high as not folding to a simple substance but rather that you have a need to do it.. And it's okay. Well it's not.

I was not working while withdrawing because well.. I did to much dope to have a job haha. I'm a pretty strong minded individual so I was able to tell myself not to be a fucking pussy and handle the withdrawals otherwise its going to be a life of pain rather than this period. I don't have heavy wd symptoms anymore, I obviously get multiple triggers daily there is no escaping that,and pretty sure it's forever. But I'm okay with that, when it came down to it I was ready to quit and did so. You have to be ready..it appears you are not sir. Best of luck to you!

 

[Mr.Vega]

seems like youre full of excuses............but thats how it works........ u wont quit til youre ready

They arent really excuses theyre just my reality....I function perfectly well...I work a full time overtime job...house truck wife all that shit...child sppt....I didnt have all that when I was on real dope and in the couple years ive been on sub ive acquired a "life"...other than being in n out of jail rehabs n hotel rooms....so actually from where ive been to where I am im doin awesome...not too many ppl have tread thru the waters I have n turned it around...extremely small percentage.

 

[Mr.Vega]

I have no desire to take suboxon out of my life in fear of goin bk to where ive been....call it a crutch or whatever...I know what it does for me at this point in my life n id be afraid to not have it.