Other Side of the Fence...Where the Grass is Always Greener

[Sativied]

No update of my current grow. Plants not happy. It's... too... hot... Getting a chiller in about an hour.

But, while going through an old journal from me from 6 years ago I found my first scrog attempt Note how I was chicken and only put only about 40% of the grow closet in scrog.


Edit, I messed it up eventually though, did too much weaving, abused them too long into 12/12. Eventually ripped them out like an angry child. Stopped growing after that until last year.

 

[Pinworm]

Here is the link to P's thread where you can check out his awesome stuff.
You won't believe how clean his grow area is!
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/654674-im-ready-blue-og-white.html

Yowzers. Talk about a professional OP. Thanks for the link, my friend.

 

[Bakatare666]

Yowzers. Talk about a professional OP. Thanks for the link, my friend.

No prob.
He's got some awesome stuff, and I hate the way he is so organized, it makes mine look like a dump.

 

[hbbum]

But, what we all want to know is.. Is that tape still on the ceiling or was there a "cover up"?

 

[Bakatare666]

But, what we all want to know is.. Is that tape still on the ceiling or was there a "cover up"?

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Ya, I forgot about the tape.
At least it wasn't from a ceiling fan.View attachment 2755061

 

[Slipon]

lol

whats up guys/galz ?

been busy and not much on, been working on my house and grow room

and actually bump in to a mystery that give me a bit of headache

maybe some of you guys have a wive or opinion on where I go "wrong" or miss to see ???


I`ll try to keep it short and simple

I got a 3x7x7 grow room

and a 6 inch ventilation with a filter on it

sumthing like this



up to now I just had 3x4 inch passive intake holes with a pice of 4" ducting on each and it work fine to give me a bit of under pressure in there (the zipper door is pulled in a few inches) seems logic a 6" ventilation need about 12" of passive holes even with a filter on it

well here is the deal

I have a old 5" ventilation

like this one




beleive the 6 ince out take ventilation is rated at 340 cfm (filter will make this less I know)
and the 5" canal ventilation is rated at 220 and 280 (two settings)

I have used the small 5" on 280 before on one of my 4" intake holes to drag in fresh air with some ducting from a open window 5-6 meters away
did notice that my zipper door did`t move more then a inch in, after that, but still some under/negative pressure

well logic as the 5" of course deliver more air and I also believe my other two 4" passive intake hole`s did`t drag much air in after fitting my 5"

now to day I wanted to make a box, to cover all my 3 passive intake holes and deliver the fresh air to the box with some new 6" ducting and my 5" canal ventilation with out the ends on (fit the ducting with out)

and what do I get a zipper door that act like a sail but now with over pressure if you like, pushing air out

had to set the 5" on 220 and even that was`t enough, had to cut a 4" hole in the end of the box (and fit some tube`s/bend`s for light proofing) to let a bit of the "fresh" air out that way

now I just have under pressure with my zipper door pulled in 1/2 a inch

Im lost, I don't expect any of you guys/galz being able to come up with a answer/solution

and its not that I need one, I think ? as my 6" outtake run as normal and I do have under pressure, Im sure I should just be happy I only need to run my 5" on low, and that I don't even need extra passive intake hole´s, actually a "relief" hole to let just a bit of fresh air out of the box or I have nighter over or under pressure

just don't make sense to me, and I keep trying to find the answer, I know its hidden in the "air being delivered to the box with the passive intake hole`s located" just don't see how I suddenly cant run it on max any more and even on low have less under presure then before, before with two passive intake holes as well ???

if I look at it in another way, it don't make sense either, how can a 5" canal ventilation that is rated at 70-80% of the 6" deliver more air on low then the 6" can handle (even with a filter on it)


guess I will have a hard time falling a sleep to night wondering what Im missing here, cant find the logic

 

[prosperian]

Hey guys! How's it growing on the other side ?: Just thought I would drop by to say hello, and drop a few pics of a few of the strains I am running. .

Me likey purple voodoo. All the girls looking happy Dank.

Here's another photo update on a couple of my girls. White Russian and Bubba Kush at 4 1/2 weeks since the flip.
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Always exciting to see the frosty coat all over the leaves. Mouth drool.

I've been thinking about putting up some netting, and checking out different ways I could go about it. It looks like you took a shelf section, modified it, and strapped netting down on it. Is that what I'm seeing? (Also, I hit up this page almost every time I log on - your guys' pics are amazing! keep it up)

Hey Pin. Pretty much nailed it. Not a lot of modification to the wire shelf, but enough to open up the holes. Took a grinder attached to my drill to smooth down the cut edges. Thanks for the feedback and keep us posted on what you're up to.

Yowzers. Talk about a professional OP.

Thanks bro, just don't tell the other guys the duct tape is still hanging from the ceiling.

Here is the link to P's thread where you can check out his awesome stuff.
You won't believe how clean his grow area is! https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/654674-im-ready-blue-og-white.html

Gracias Bak, if I can help other growers the way you helped me, well, that's good karma.

No update of my current grow. Plants not happy. It's... too... hot... Getting a chiller in about an hour. But, while going through an old journal from me from 6 years ago I found my first scrog attempt Note how I was chicken and only put only about 40% of the grow closet in scrog. Edit, I messed it up eventually though, did too much weaving, abused them too long into 12/12. Eventually ripped them out like an angry child. Stopped growing after that until last year.

Sativied, so ya chillin? Damn summer gardening has been an expensive lesson for me. Just happy the plants have adjusted to my endless mission to cool things down in there. Glad you made it back to gardening. Plenty of folks around here to keep you motivated, especially when you see their crop pics.

lol whats up guys/galz ? been busy and not much on, been working on my house and grow room and actually bump in to a mystery that give me a bit of headache maybe some of you guys have a wive or opinion on where I go "wrong" or miss to see ??? ...guess I will have a hard time falling a sleep to night wondering what Im missing here, cant find the logic

Dude, this is like one of those crazy math problems in school with two trains and a tunnel. Don't you know I was making time with the girls and not paying attention?

I will have to study it awhile and get back to you. Hopefully someone else on here can help before I have an aneurism.

I will leave you with this crazy white boy that grew up on the islands from the age of 5.

[video=youtube_share;Yvvlg29PfvU]http://youtu.be/Yvvlg29PfvU[/video]

 

[Pinworm]

Sure thing, brother. Will do.

 

[prosperian]

I`ll try to keep it short and simple...if I look at it in another way, it don't make sense either, how can a 5" canal ventilation that is rated at 70-80% of the 6" deliver more air on low then the 6" can handle (even with a filter on it)

I will revise my answer with a question. Did you try it without the carbon filter installed?

Maybe the filter is plugged up and causing a drop in your cfms. Adding an intake fan is going to reduce the negative pressure.

It appears that it has reduced it to point that creates positive pressure in the room. With the filter attached to the exhaust, maybe your exhaust cfms is around 230-240. (bends in the ducting on the exhaust side could lower the cfms too).

Ok, I'm going to medicate and search for more answers. They get better as the night goes on, I promise

 

[Bakatare666]

lol

whats up guys/galz ?

been busy and not much on, been working on my house and grow room

and actually bump in to a mystery that give me a bit of headache

maybe some of you guys have a wive or opinion on where I go "wrong" or miss to see ???


I`ll try to keep it short and simple

I got a 3x7x7 grow room

and a 6 inch ventilation with a filter on it

sumthing like this

View attachment 2755071

up to now I just had 3x4 inch passive intake holes with a pice of 4" ducting on each and it work fine to give me a bit of under pressure in there (the zipper door is pulled in a few inches) seems logic a 6" ventilation need about 12" of passive holes even with a filter on it

well here is the deal

I have a old 5" ventilation

like this one

View attachment 2755080


beleive the 6 ince out take ventilation is rated at 340 cfm (filter will make this less I know)
and the 5" canal ventilation is rated at 220 and 280 (two settings)

I have used the small 5" on 280 before on one of my 4" intake holes to drag in fresh air with some ducting from a open window 5-6 meters away
did notice that my zipper door did`t move more then a inch in, after that, but still some under/negative pressure

well logic as the 5" of course deliver more air and I also believe my other two 4" passive intake hole`s did`t drag much air in after fitting my 5"

now to day I wanted to make a box, to cover all my 3 passive intake holes and deliver the fresh air to the box with some new 6" ducting and my 5" canal ventilation with out the ends on (fit the ducting with out)

and what do I get a zipper door that act like a sail but now with over pressure if you like, pushing air out

had to set the 5" on 220 and even that was`t enough, had to cut a 4" hole in the end of the box (and fit some tube`s/bend`s for light proofing) to let a bit of the "fresh" air out that way

now I just have under pressure with my zipper door pulled in 1/2 a inch

Im lost, I don't expect any of you guys/galz being able to come up with a answer/solution

and its not that I need one, I think ? as my 6" outtake run as normal and I do have under pressure, Im sure I should just be happy I only need to run my 5" on low, and that I don't even need extra passive intake hole´s, actually a "relief" hole to let just a bit of fresh air out of the box or I have nighter over or under pressure

just don't make sense to me, and I keep trying to find the answer, I know its hidden in the "air being delivered to the box with the passive intake hole`s located" just don't see how I suddenly cant run it on max any more and even on low have less under presure then before, before with two passive intake holes as well ???

if I look at it in another way, it don't make sense either, how can a 5" canal ventilation that is rated at 70-80% of the 6" deliver more air on low then the 6" can handle (even with a filter on it)


guess I will have a hard time falling a sleep to night wondering what Im missing here, cant find the logic

Sorry Slip, I'm not a lot of help sometimes.
I've been sitting here reading, backtracking, reading more, trying to picture what ya got there in front of ya, and I'm drawing a blank.
All I could suggest is put a filter on your intake same as the exhaust to restrict flow a bit, then you could eliminate the vent on the intake you put.

 

[Gs3000]

Thanks Prosperian! I'm liking what I'm seeing using the three HPS 600s. I think I may let the HPS 1000 sit out and continue to roll with the 666. Peace!

 

[Slipon]

nop did`t try it with out the filter, also, filter is added directly on the ventilation and out the room, no ducting or bends, tho did try to unplug it and turn it on agin, plus I cleaned it on the outside for dust (removed the white filter long ago to make it "breath" even better)

so the outtake should run as normally, and sure, if its rated at 340 its probably more like 240-280 with the filter on, I would believe

but it have run the 5" before on max with out any problem`s, sure the 5" had to work with 4" ducting and is now free of all that, but still, either that is making it way more effective then I ever would imagine

or, and that is what I might believe it to be, that the 3 passive holes of 4" each = 12" is making enough under presure to almost run as normal through a 6" ducting and a 4" hole (did try with the 5" unplugged)

and when I then turn on the 5" it make the 6" "passive" intake, my 3 passive intake hole`s have to work with twice as effective as with out a intake ventilation ??

if that make any sense ?

I mean maybe the under presure make my 5" pull more then rated trough the ducting ?

as I said, if I turn the 5" off I then have a 6 and a 4 inch passive hole and that give me more under pressure then before with 3x4" holes,logic as 6+4 =10 and 3x4" =12, witch also should prove that my outtake pull as normal


before it "just" blew in trough a 4" hole, now it attach to a air tight box with my passive intake inside


guess I´ll hit the bong as well need to get my mind on sumthign els, have been going for +12 hours to day last 3 with this "problem"

 

[mycomaster]

If I'm understanding you correctly Slipon, it should be running correctly. Wow, yeah lik Pros said 2 trains, one going 87, the other going 103, which one makes it to the monn, and back first? Do trains fly in space? I'll put some more thought to it, and see if I can make any sense of it bro. Air flow is a tricky beast for sure with alot depending on where air flow is high or low, and what are the dimensions and angles it's blowing into. Good grief, it's always something, ain't it. Peace out.

 

[Slipon]

Sorry Slip, I'm not a lot of help sometimes.
I've been sitting here reading, backtracking, reading more, trying to picture what ya got there in front of ya, and I'm drawing a blank.
All I could suggest is put a filter on your intake same as the exhaust to restrict flow a bit, then you could eliminate the vent on the intake you put.

no problem bro, I can imagine its hard to imagine specially with out pictures, could take some, but most is covered up and taped down, wont see much more then a pice of 6 inch aluminum ducting going in to a 2x1 ft cardboard box and could I show you the inside of the box there would just be 3 small 4 inch holes, on the other side of the wall, inside my grow room I have 3 pieces of 4" ducting attach to em so I can lead the air where I want it

the 6" alu ducting out side go a few meters before I have the 5 inch canal ventilation added and another few meters more ducting leading to a open window with some insect netting in front

and even I have problems to see the "problem" or explanation, just need to get it down on writing and get some input from others I guess

 

[prosperian]

I'm out. Beyond rational thought for the evening, but I will read along

 

[Bakatare666]

I'm out. Beyond rational thought for the evening, but I will read along

At least you know 'when' man, I still haven't found the breathalyzer on my keyboard OR cel phone.
Frequently, (Just started recently) after a night of early drinking, I check my call log the next morning to see if I had called any old old friends from Cali that I may have remembered in a drunken stupor.

 

[Sativied]

Sativied, so ya chillin?

I am now!

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[prosperian]

Checked the buds on the g13 labs diesel this morning. Milky just a little amber at 78 days. About 8 days past the breeder's 70 day mark.

I will take some shots of the plant later today when I pull her from the closet.

 

[mycomaster]

Hey Slip, do you have a big hole on one side like a 6in blowing into a board with 4 smaller holes for an outlet? cause that can cause weird suction problems for different reasons. My brother was in h/vac for a while, and I helped him install ducting, and remember getting a problem from something like that. I'm sorry I didn't catch that earlier, if that is the problem, but I've been medicated as all get out lately. I hope that helps if not we'll keep working on it. The trichs look good on the Diesel Pros, sounds like chopping time huh? Now you'll have some fresh flowers to play with, and some trim to mess around with too. Watcha gonna do with the trim, dry ice or oil hash? Peace out.

 

[prosperian]

The trichs look good on the Diesel Pros, sounds like chopping time huh? Now you'll have some fresh flowers to play with, and some trim to mess around with too. Watcha gonna do with the trim, dry ice or oil hash? Peace out.

Hey Myco. Yeah, the auto kinda snuck up on me and was done. I'm so used to having more time than just 70-80 days from dropping the seeds ya know? Dry ice is so easy and fast. Think I will go that route again.