Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Kite High

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Uncle Ben said:
They defoliate (spray) defoliation chemicals via airplane applications when the crop is done so they don't have to screw around with the leaves. A huge combine comes along after the leaves have dropped and collects the cotton bolls.

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see them packs of pure sats from Ace dont you bro?
 
Uncle Ben

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Kite High said:
see them packs of pure sats from Ace dont you bro?
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Zamal is the only one I recognize as being "pure" sativa although the Malawi/Thai hype on Ace is bullshit. I got mine free from Gypsy years ago who brought them back on his person. I discussed it with the breeder. You doing these so called "sativas"? Should be fun!

So Ace ships to the U.S. with no hitches?
 
hyroot

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Yeah and basil, rosemary, oregeno, thyme etc.... Are supposed to be debudded not defoliated. You don't want them to flower or it changes flavor. for example if basil flowers. Its leaves taste like sharp cinnamon.
 
Kite High

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Uncle Ben said:
Zamal is the only one I recognize as being "pure" sativa although the Malawi/Thai hype on Ace is bullshit. I got mine free from Gypsy years ago who brought them back on his person. I discussed it with the breeder. You doing these so called "sativas"? Should be fun!

So Ace ships to the U.S. with no hitches?
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I rec'd them through Growshop Alien
Zamaldelica- Malawi x Zamal

Golden Tiger- Meo Thai x Malawi

Malawi-Pure backcross to the Malawi Mom

They look pretty damn sativa to me...yes I will be running them run after next...next up is a run with indie doms and a high cbd strain for making oil
 
Uncle Ben

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Kite High said:
I rec'd them through Growshop Alien
Zamaldelica- Malawi x Zamal

Golden Tiger- Meo Thai x Malawi

Malawi-Pure backcross to the Malawi Mom

They look pretty damn sativa to me...yes I will be running them run after next...next up is a run with indie doms and a high cbd strain for making oil
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Yep, pure sativa and very nice plants. Was just saying that the original Zamal was bred by this guy, a frenchman who wrote me after Gypsy told him to take a look at my indoor Zamal. Here is the original, unedited response. Can you believe a swing on a sativa?

Message from Christophe to Uncle Ben,
I'll send you 1 picture of Zamal plant; (it's a plant on the left with color lights). It was 4 months old, but I cut him 2 months later. on the picture you can see only the half of the plant. I 'm very surprise because it's the first time I can see Zamal indoor and I wonder if Zamal is a good plant for indoor. I live in Réunion island and the average temperature in the year is 26̊; we can breed outdoor all the year; I never plant indoor.

Few precisions about Zamal (not Zamaal): This sativa (100%) was imported from Madagascar 200 years ago with slaves. Her degree of THC is between 15 and 30% (there are few qualities),
she is very powerfull and she unsticked the head of many old smokers. She has a good ratio (naturely): 9 females for 1 male; Her florewing begins between 8 and 12 weeks; but in winter (24̊ the day, 18̊ the night) it's not uncommon to cut the plant after 7 or 8 months; here few growers wait 1 year and sometimes more. I smile when you are afraid by 17 weeks of grow; sure it's expensive, but may be it's early to cut her. How many hours she is under the ligths by day? Sure it's a long time to grow in comparison with indica, but it's difficult to comparate this 2 plants (florewing, heigt, yield...)

Harvest depend of the heigt,but usually she is between 800 grs and 1 kg (dry) for average heigt of 3 meters, some plants can exceed 4 or 5 meters, with trunk of 15 cm of diameter! (I have a friend, he installed a swing on his plant)

Zamal is strongest than Durban poison or Malawi gold and more than many indica. She has not a strong odor (except when you smoke) usually her odor is carot-mangoo but depend the quality, her odor is less than indica. Buds are smallers than indica buds but biggers than your production. Outdoor she needs not too much water and she can grow in altitude (1500m). Usually she lives in volcanic earth and in fact she can grow in acid earth (PH: 5,6) In general she is resistant but she is kept fungus and ant. At all she needs a good sun.

But like I said, I haven't indoor experience and I wonder if Zamal indoor gives you the same quality than outdoor. If you want accelerate florewing, mix Zamal with indica; ex: Afghani special (male) x Zamal=florewing in 6 weeks.

Excuse my english and if you can talk in french, that's better.

Friendly, Christophe.
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I just seen how you did your but I did it like every 3 shoots and ended up with like 30 colas there's 2 main but is it good to do it this way or am I getting to many on it? Last year it did grate but I'm always hear to try new things if it'll better the out come..
 
Uncle Ben

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Blaze31 said:
I just seen how you did your but I did it like every 3 shoots and ended up with like 30 colas there's 2 main but is it good to do it this way or am I getting to many on it? Last year it did grate but I'm always hear to try new things if it'll better the out come..
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You prune or train to suit your whims. I've topped indoor sativas during veg and flower. I'm talkin' like 10 times maybe half that was during flowering. Had to, grew too tall.
 
socaljoe

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I followed this topping method when my initial plant went in the ground in April. I ended up topping at the third node due to having lost the branches of the first node, which apparently turned out not to make a bit of difference as the new tops grew out just the same, six instead of four. Once the new tops had some good growth, I decided to mess around with LST and tied the new mains down. I'm very impressed with the results, as I have my 4 mains but also several very strong secondary shoots prompted by the LST.

I've come to find that many people take issue with your approach to growing UB, but I've had fantastic results utilizing your advice on topping and feeding, so I can't imagine you're pulling this stuff out of your ass. I find it amazing how little care these plants really need, I water regularly, try not to overfeed, and keep an eye out for pests...as it stands right now, I'm on my way to a successful rookie grow and I have your common sense approach to thank for a large part of it. Just keeping her green and happy.
 
Uncle Ben

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socaljoe said:
I've come to find that many people take issue with your approach to growing UB, but I've had fantastic results utilizing your advice on topping and feeding, so I can't imagine you're pulling this stuff out of your ass. I find it amazing how little care these plants really need, I water regularly, try not to overfeed, and keep an eye out for pests...as it stands right now, I'm on my way to a successful rookie grow and I have your common sense approach to thank for a large part of it. Just keeping her green and happy.
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Any one that takes issue to my approach to growing is revealing to others that they don't understand or care about botany and conventional horticulture and probably haven't even grown a plant before. I don't do anything a "normal" farmer, greenhouse manager, plant nurseryman, or master gardener would not do. I am a commercial niche farmer and grow fruits, berries, wine grapes, nuts, and about everything in between like tropical fruits in a greenhouse..... olives, pomegranates, etc. I can not afford to do too many "aw shits". You either do it right or don't do it at all.

Keep 'em green until the end. The more foliage you remove or lose, the less your yields.....pure common sense botanical science.

Glad it's worked out for you, easy peasy, eh?
 
socaljoe

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Uncle Ben said:
Any one that takes issue to my approach to growing is revealing to others that they don't understand or care about botany and conventional horticulture and probably haven't even grown a plant before. I don't do anything a "normal" farmer, greenhouse manager, plant nurseryman, or master gardener would not do. I am a commercial niche farmer and grow fruits, berries, wine grapes, nuts, and about everything in between like tropical fruits in a greenhouse..... olives, pomegranates, etc. I can not afford to do too many "aw shits". You either do it right or don't do it at all.

Keep 'em green until the end. The more foliage you remove or lose, the less your yields.....pure common sense botanical science.

Glad it's worked out for you, easy peasy, eh?
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Like so many things in life, it's only as hard as you make it. :blsmoke:
 
highlander74

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Uncle Ben,
Scotland salutes you!
Followed your advice about topping to try and increase yield for my THC Bomb grow as had been growing auto's before and yields were poor.
I am doing a closet grow so room is tight.
So i topped her just above the 2nd node after 3 weeks veg,gave her a week to recover,then switched the lights.
Low and behold,4 weeks later I have a healthy 4 cola'd plant with two mini branches budding up nicely!Will try n get a pic up soon
Again thank you UB,your are a star!
peace
 
Uncle Ben

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highlander74 said:
Uncle Ben,
Scotland salutes you!
Followed your advice about topping to try and increase yield for my THC Bomb grow as had been growing auto's before and yields were poor.
I am doing a closet grow so room is tight.
So i topped her just above the 2nd node after 3 weeks veg,gave her a week to recover,then switched the lights.
Low and behold,4 weeks later I have a healthy 4 cola'd plant with two mini branches budding up nicely!Will try n get a pic up soon
Again thank you UB,your are a star!
peace
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Thanks bud and good luck with that! Tonight, I'll imbibe my favorite single malt scotch in honor of you and your country.
 
CarlinistFellow

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Ok UB, I'm gonna come off like a total idiot, but hopefully this picture will be worth a thousand words. My goal is to get 4 main colas. What is considered the "2nd true node," A, B or neither? Am I counting from the bottom up, and am I counting the node where it's only a single leaf as a "true node?" I promise, I've read and read and read, but this is still confusing the hell out of me.

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CarlinistFellow

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Thanks Al. That was my (over)thinking, too, but I appreciate the confirmation of what is probably a very obvious answer to most (just not me, apparently!). Meh, I always sucked at math.
 
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