UZz 1st time grow, 158w CFL PC box with soil

[Usethename]

Day 29

Repotted into longer pot (used mewk's idea for cutting pot in middle and fitting one side into the other to make it the right size to fit in the box - really impressed with his grow with 69w cfl!).
Hope that growth will not slow down too much.
Noticed that roots were going in circle at the bottom of old 1L pot. A few root tips broke during repotting, but leave dont seem too droopy after 6hrs.

Added nutes (phosmogen 1 pinch in 1l, used 1/4 L only).

Untied plant, will lst tomorrow.

Plant is also further from light than with previous pot. Will raise new pot tomorrow after lst.

Temp risen to 26*C with light trap which is still incomplete. Will have to add a fan inside to blow on plant when light trap is fitted.

No of new shoots: 8-10

2 Bottom fan leaves yellow, brown crispy tips. New growth fine, green and perky.

 

[n0tmycupoftea]

Nice start, with that many watts whatre your in box temps?

 

[Usethename]

Nice start, with that many watts whatre your in box temps?

Thanks mate!

Temp were 23C before i changed the pot, it's now 26C. I guess the larger pot decreases space inside the box for air circulation. And i havent even fitted the light trap yet, will report temp when i do.

Btw just realized ive been following your and mewk's grow for a while now. Didnt see you harvested, went thru ur thread just now - freakin amazing man! You pulled less than an O from a pc!

Im using an unknown bag seed and im sort of feeling its a lady (no logic in that i know). If it is a lady i would be over the moon with a fraction of what you harvested!

Plus that 3 tier harvest method seems quite fruitful. Any drawbacks? You mentionned that the 1st harvest lost 75% weight when dry while the second time when you left the plant in darkness for 48h, the weight decrease was by only 40%.
Did you confirm this and perhaps look into it further?

 

[Usethename]

Plant seems to have survived repotting so i resumed the lst on it. Will post pics in a few hrs.

As you can see the plant is in the far left side of the rectangular pot. Im trying to lst it to the left, then make a u-turn to grow towards the right hand side of the pot. All of this while keeping the stem fairly horizontal.

If all goes well i should start flowering when the main shoot reaches a point where it's about 2 inches away from the pot's edge on the right.

No apparent growth. Cut a few brown tips on lower fan leaves.

Last time i repotted the plant took a few days rest and then BAM! Shrek was in the house shooting branches all over the place! Im hoping for the same thing this time.

Compared to the other plants i had (not in box anymore, but they found a good home) Shrek is a monster in terms of its colour and rate of growth!
Must clone asap. I dont have any rooting gel yet though. When is the latest when i can clone it? Can i once it's flowering?

 

[Usethename]

Day 30

Number of yellow crispy brownish leaves has increased. Temp steady at 24C (must get another thermomether to double check).

Have raised plant by an inch after doing lst.

Plant in general doesnt look too good.

Soil still humid so will wait then water without nutes for next two times.

I realized that after repotting with new soil, that there was nutes in that soil, plus the nutes i added. That could account for the yellow leaves...

 

[Usethename]

Day 33




Photos are from day 33.
Yesterday - trimmed all the brown parts of the leaves and lst'd plant to make u turn on the left.
Today, d33, no change. No growth.

Since repotting 4 days ago, no apparent growth, only brown yellow tips. Even main new shoot looks sick.

Temp was 26C when i checked this morning. Also one of my 40w bulbs was really really hot, so i took it out. So theres now 118w in there instead of 158w. Will check again if it makes a difference later.

Other thing that might be causing the plant to stop growing : nute lock? I was thinking of flushinh the soil, but its still moist from the repotting 4d ago, so i'm not too sure if its better that i wait for the soil to dry before i flush with water?

Any help greatly appreciated, i dont wanna lose growth time for nothing, for e.g. If at least the plant wasnt growing cos of fimming or cropping, it'd be ok cos it's kinda worth it....but in my case, i dont understand why the plant has stopped growing.

Thanks in advance for any helpful response.

Uz.

 

[Dragon311]

Definitely sounds like the plant is in shock...if not from the repotting then from the trimming, but probably both.

Since you mentioned that the new soil had some food in it, plus you added more, I would absolutely hold off on feeding her (is it fem?) anything more. Flushing with 3-4x the volume should be sufficient and then let her dry out before watering. Plain water from here on out, until you see some positive response.

 

[Usethename]

Definitely sounds like the plant is in shock...if not from the repotting then from the trimming, but probably both.

Since you mentioned that the new soil had some food in it, plus you added more, I would absolutely hold off on feeding her (is it fem?) anything more. Flushing with 3-4x the volume should be sufficient and then let her dry out before watering. Plain water from here on out, until you see some positive response.

Thanks for ur reply! Could u pls clarify a few points:

1. I thought that as long as im trimming brown (dead?) parts of the leaves, the plant would not be affected. That's not true then? Any sort of trimming might shock the plant?

2. So, i should wait for the soil to dry up, then flush with water, or should i do it now?

3. Its a bag seed, not sure if fem yet (really hope so). But could all that stress cause it to turn male?

4. Light wise, is there any problem if i remove one bulb? Is that more stress for the plant?

 

[Dragon311]

1. To each their own, but my general rule of thumb is: if it's not about to fall off, don't touch it. If a leaf is too far gone the plant will shed the leaf itself. If not, then it's still doing something useful for the rest of the plant.

2. Flush now.

3. Who knows...I was only asking, I didn't read the whole thread. Stress is known to induce hermaphrodites though.

4. Nope, removing a bulb is fine. As for stress, I'd almost consider removing the LST if you don't see any improvement after a day or 2 from flushing (or even now)...any extra stress is not needed at the moment, even low stress.

 

[Usethename]

1. To each their own, but my general rule of thumb is: if it's not about to fall off, don't touch it. If a leaf is too far gone the plant will shed the leaf itself. If not, then it's still doing something useful for the rest of the plant.

2. Flush now.

3. Who knows...I was only asking, I didn't read the whole thread. Stress is known to induce hermaphrodites though.

4. Nope, removing a bulb is fine. As for stress, I'd almost consider removing the LST if you don't see any improvement after a day or 2 from flushing (or even now)...any extra stress is not needed at the moment, even low stress.

Thanks a lot for ur reply dragon!

Just flushed with 6L (tap) water and will remove lst in 1-2 days if no improvement.

As for trimming, i not doing that again, at least not until plant is vigorous and healthy and even then ill avoid doing it.

Thx!

 

[Usethename]

Day 35

Plant looks better now. Main new shoot started growing again and smaller new shoots (on stems) too.

Have added a 26w to fill the space after i took out the hot (defective?) 40w blue light.

Total is now 144w.



I'm tempted to lst the new main shoot to make that u-turn towards the right (see 3rd pic, its at the left end of the pot at the mo, want to make it turn to the right to fill the space there, before i start flowering). Or maybe i should wait 1-2days until i'm sure the plant has fully recovered from its recent trauma.
Questn 1: What do u think?

Thanks again Dragon for ur advice, flushing seems to have helped reduce number of yellow leaves.

Questn 2: Btw, i suppose that the soil will be very low in food after the flushing - when do i need to add nutes? Should i wait till the plants show yellow leaves (n deficiency) or assoon as plant seems healthy again?

Any help, as usual, greatly appreciated!

Uzz

 

[Dragon311]

1: Personally I'd wait until I saw multiple signs of healthy growth before I thought about introducing stress of any type again

2: IMO I'd wait till the pot dries out...use plain water again, wait for it to dry a 2nd time, then feed it.

 

[Usethename]

1: Personally I'd wait until I saw multiple signs of healthy growth before I thought about introducing stress of any type again

2: IMO I'd wait till the pot dries out...use plain water again, wait for it to dry a 2nd time, then feed it.

Thanks again for ur advice Dragon!

What are the most reliable signs btw?

 

[Usethename]

Day 39


resumed lst few days ago. New shoots appearing on stem, older new shoots (that appeared after fim) now have their own fan leaves.
Main new shoot is showing some weird white-ish hairs.

Pictures:

Lights (3x26w and 2x26w - 3 blue 6500k and 2 red 2700k)


Plant with lst on:


Plant w/o lst:


Top view:
What im tring to do here is make the plant turn to the right and fill up that empty space in the right hand side of the pot.

My method of elec wires is ok but im looking for smtg neater. Cant get my hands on smtg to use as a scrog (i think metal is not good cos it will heat up with the lights?)

Soil feels dry. Will water now and add a tiny lil bit of nutes as the leaves have a yellowish colour and are not green enough.

*update*
-watered till run off, added a lil bit of diluted nutes from last time(just a few squeezes from spray bottle).
-added soil mixed with perlite to right half of pot. Soil is now moroles even.
-broke 2 yellow branches when lst'ing plant. Have to be careful with yellow leaves. Green leaves n branches appear to withstand more violence...

Q: i mixed some nutes salt in water a wk ago, can i still use that or does it like expire or smtg?

Im using this thread more like a journal, i intend to organize it all once im done with my first grow into a neat sort of user manual. Assuming itwill get to harvest n smmmmmmmmmmmmmmoke!

 

[Usethename]

Day 44

temp up to 27-29 *C now. I have therefore removed one bulb (the one to the right hand side, where the plant has not reached yet).

New total watt is now : 40+26+26+26= 118w

Top soil layer dry, but pot still seems a bit heavy. The leaves look yellowish and droopy so i watered a bit (w/o any run off) and sprayed some nute mix onto the soil (not foliar feeding).

Continued lst on main shoot (now horizontal pointing right) as well as small lower shoots to maintain even height. Growth still slow and leaves yellowish.

Pic below:



I'm starting to wonder whether i will be able to veg it so it fills the space to the right, before i start flowering - its already been 1.5 months....i have no idea if its male or fem, or what strain it is. I cant even clone n flower cos i dont have another grow box. Im afraid that the longer i veg the harder it will be to flower no matter what strain it is as it could easily outgrow its space.

Will wait till wkend to sort out the light trap and additional 'wind' fan. Will then consider flowering from there...

 

[Usethename]

Continued in journal (click on signature)

 

[notballin]

Keep up the good work! She's looking pretty healthy and happy.

 

[Usethename]

Keep up the good work! She's looking pretty healthy and happy.

Thx mate!

Ive started a journal instead of this thread although i think its easier for ppl inclyding myse,f to follow the thread as evrything is all in one continuous....thread!

Ive noticed that riu is quite a gd website for mj growing in a pc grow box. In fact ppl r helpful n i havent seen one troll on any thread ive read!