Obama ignores marijuana states rights in Washington.

[UncleBuck]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19holder.html?_r=0

another link where he makes claims that the dea has better things to do in 2009 when he took office, and how many have been raided since he took office....
those appear to be facts....

obama doesn't have 100% control over his DAs. he can tell them to make it a low priority, and they can choose to ignore him.

but i'm sure you don't want to talk about that, because if we did, you'd realize that all of these DAs going against the directive they were given are republican DAs, like bonnie dumanis and others.

there's many ways to play the game of politics.

 

[ginwilly]

Our prez pussied out on gay marriage by saying er um herp derp STATES!!.... people cheered. Now he can't respect states rights, the same people make excuses for both stances. It's amazing really.

 

[Twitch]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/obama-marijuana-raids-rolling-stone_n_1451744.html

 

[Twitch]

i can post links all day where he claims to stop the raids, damn yalls minds really are like cement aren't they, all mixed up and set? hes like no other person in his position they all lie, but the fact that you really think he is worth a damn and not a lying sack of shit like all the others blows my mind completely. but hey stick to your guns

 

[Twitch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Ixtk-_clo

unclebucks them song

 

[Julius Caesar]

obama doesn't have 100% control over his DAs. he can tell them to make it a low priority, and they can choose to ignore him.

...And the President has the authority to dismiss and appoint at his discretion. Don't try to pass the buck for him Buck!

 

[UncleBuck]

...And the President has the authority to dismiss and hire at his discretion. Don't try to pass the buck for him .... Buck!

DAs like bonnie dumanis are elected by the voters, not appointed by the president.

thanks for removing all doubts i had.

 

[UncleBuck]

i can post links all day where he claims to stop the raids

LOL! can ya really?

go ahead and post them.

obama has been very specific about not raiding USERS and those who are compliant with state law. he has also been very clear about not giving carte blanche to an unregulated cannabis industry and those using state laws as a cover for major operations.

please post something that says otherwise. i'll wait.

 

[echelon1k1]

LOL! can ya really?

go ahead and post them.

obama has been very specific about not raiding USERS and those who are compliant with state law. he has also been very clear about not giving carte blanche to an unregulated cannabis industry and those using state laws as a cover for major operations.

please post something that says otherwise. i'll wait.

US Court Records Show Nearly 500 Years in Prison Time for Medical Marijuana Offenses

According to a survey of US court records, news stories, and case reports compiled by Cal NORML (with help from Americans for Safe Access):

• Over 335 defendants have been charged with federal crimes related to medical marijuana in states with medical marijuana laws.
• 158 defendants have received prison sentences totaling over 480 years for medical marijuana offenses. Some 50 are currently in federal prison, while more are waiting to be sentenced or surrender.
• Over 90% of the criminal cases settled to date have resulted in convictions. 10% have been dismissed. A single defendant has been acquitted. Federal law typically prohibits defendants from invoking medical marijuana in their defense.
• 153 medical marijuana cases have been brought in the 4 ¼ years of the Obama administration, nearly as many as under the 8 years of the Bush administration (163).
• Not a single pardon or clemency petition has been granted to a medical marijuana defendant by President Obama or his predecessors.
• One seriously ill defendant, Richard Flor, has died while in federal prison, and two others, Peter McWilliams and Steve McWilliams (no relation) died while being denied access to medical marijuana on bail. Other seriously ill patients who have who have been sentenced to lengthy terms include Dale Schafer, a hemophiliac currently serving 5 years along with his wife Mollie Fry, a cancer patient (pictured above); Vernon Rylee, who served nearly 5 years in a wheelchair (pictured right), and Jerry Duval.
• At least 259 defendants have been charged in California; over 31 in Montana; 6 in Oregon; 15 in Nevada; 12 in Michigan; 2 in Colorado; and 10 in Washington.

I wish you would hold your breath instead of telling us about all the great thing* obamas done for MJ. But why would it surprise you? You support his stance... See my Sig...

 

[echelon1k1]

LOL! can ya really?

go ahead and post them.

obama has been very specific about not raiding USERS and those who are compliant with state law.

Would you stop the DEA's raids on Oregon medical marijuana growers?
I would because I think our federal agents have better things to do, like catching criminals and preventing terrorism. The way I want to approach the issue of medical marijuana is to base it on science, and if there is sound science that supports the use of medical marijuana and if it is controlled and prescribed in a way that other medicine is prescribed, then it's something that I think we should consider.

Jerry Duval, Medical Marijuana Patient, Headed To Same Federal Prison Facility As Boston Bomber

Duval, whose juvenile diabetes led to both a kidney and a pancreas transplant, also lives with glaucoma and neuropathy. He has a strict medical regime, which prior to his arrest had included medical marijuana. That regime will now be the responsibility of taxpayers and the Federal Medical Center in Devens, Mass., where Duval may stay in a cell similar to the one currently occupied by Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: a 10-by-10 foot steel room. The DOJ confirmed its decision to move Duval to the federal medical facility rather than standard federal prison, and Duval has been "ordered to surrender" and report to the facility by June 11.

Glad to see Obamas DOJ exercising restraint and sanity by putting a very ill man, who was as court documents indicated, compliant with state law, in with those jackals...

 

[UncleBuck]

Jerry Duval, Medical Marijuana Patient, Headed To Same Federal Prison Facility As Boston Bomber



Glad to see Obamas DOJ exercising restraint and sanity by putting a very ill man, who was as court documents indicated, compliant with state law, in with those jackals...

LOL!

i started a thread about this a long time ago.

jerry duval was not allowed to be growing in the first place as a convicted felon, and he was growing about 150 plants, well out side of the state compliance you claim.

you make mossy rocks look brilliant.

https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/536879-can-i-grow-sell-154-a.html

dumbass.

 

[UncleBuck]

• At least [6 defendants] have been charged in Oregon...

http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Pages/data.aspx

there are 55,397 patients enrolled in the oregon medical cannabis program as of july 2013.

so 6 out of 55,397.

or, to put it another way, roughly 1 out of every 10,000 patients.

goddamn you obama! you horrid cunt, stop persecuting us!

 

[UncleBuck]

http://www.coloradomedicalmarijuanaevaluations.com/patient-resources.html#colorado-medical-marijuana-statistics

95,477 patients in colorado.

2 busts.

1 in 50,000 or so.

damn you obama!

 

[echelon1k1]

Here's some more obama perspective;

The same person who directed the DOJ to shield torturers and illegal government eavesdroppers from criminal investigation, and who voted to retroactively immunize the nation’s largest telecom giants when they got caught enabling criminal spying on Americans, and whose DOJ has failed to indict a single Wall Street executive in connection with the 2008 financial crisis or mortgage fraud scandal, suddenly discovers the imperatives of The Rule of Law when it comes to those, in accordance with state law, providing medical marijuana to sick people with a prescription.

Defend away we all know how you love him and everything he does...

 

[UncleBuck]

Here's some more obama perspective;



Defend away we all know how you love him and everything he does...

first of all, that was a troll thread. that you take it seriously speaks very lowly of your questionable intellect.

secondly, a 1 in 10,000 chance of getting busted in oregon. i am familiar with a few of those cases, and let me tell you, they were not state compliant users. not even close.

also, a 1 in 50,000 chance of getting busted in colorado.

you're about 8 times more likely to get struck by lightning than get busted by the feds for growing cannabis in colorado.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_strike

you gotta take some chances in this business, unlike when you sue the government for welfare.

 

[UncleBuck]

In the case of Duval, Michigan law allows a medical*marijuana*caregiver to grow up to 72 plants for five registered patients. Duval had two greenhouses on his property, where exactly 174 plants were seized, according to federal court filings. Those greenhouses were run not by Duval, but by his children, Jeremy and Ashley Duval, who were registered as caregivers and served five patients each. Their father was one patient.

convicted felons can not grow in michigan. jerry duval was a convicted felon.

there is no state in the union where 174 plants is "state compliant", and good luck on convincing anyone that 174 plants are all for "personal use".

they rolled the dice, they got too big, they went down. that's what happens in this business. you get greedy and you get busted.

this goes back to obama not wanting to give carte blanche to an unregulated cannabis industry.

try again, my small minded amiga.

 

[UncleBuck]

uncle buck for real your a moron

*you're

obama isnt holding up his end of the deal on the marijuana front like he claim in 2009

i've invited you to post what he said. instead, you just composed an ad hom diatribe that would make a retarded child shake his head in disgust.

i know what obama said. others have posted what obama has said. you clearly heard promises that weren't there if you think he promised zero busts.

once again, i invite you to post what he said in 2009, and we can examine what he said versus what prosecutions have happened and for who.

otherwise, stop opening your mouth to remove all doubt.

 

[echelon1k1]

first of all, that was a troll thread. that you take it seriously speaks very lowly of your questionable intellect.

secondly, a 1 in 10,000 chance of getting busted in oregon. i am familiar with a few of those cases, and let me tell you, they were not state compliant users. not even close.

also, a 1 in 50,000 chance of getting busted in colorado.

you're about 8 times more likely to get struck by lightning than get busted by the feds for growing cannabis in colorado.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_strike

you gotta take some chances in this business, unlike when you sue the government for welfare.

All these wonderfull statistics and analogies DOES NOT make up for the fact the man you idolise is an abject failure with no hope of bringing change.

Thank you for once again defending the actions of Obamas DOJ. Here is a quote from obama regarding the FEDs;

The only tension that’s come up – and this gets hyped up a lot – is a murky area where you have large-scale, commercial operations that may supply medical marijuana users, but in some cases may also be supplying recreational users. In that situation, we put the Justice Department in a very difficult place if we’re telling them, “This is supposed to be against the law, but we want you to turn the other way.” That’s not something we’re going to do.

I will re post a quote by journalist Glenn Greenwald regarding obama that's very relevant to this discussion;

The same person who directed the DOJ to shield torturers and illegal government eavesdroppers from criminal investigation, and who voted to retroactively immunize the nation’s largest telecom giants when they got caught enabling criminal spying on Americans, and whose DOJ has failed to indict a single Wall Street executive in connection with the 2008 financial crisis or mortgage fraud scandal, suddenly discovers the imperatives of The Rule of Law when it comes to those, in accordance with state law, providing medical marijuana to sick people with a prescription.

Buck you should stop with the "carte blanche" inferences, as the only people with "carte blanche" are obamas administration and the drug cartels they arm. He'll sign an Executive Order to cover up Fast n Furious, but won't even write a memo to Justice telling them to back the fuck off, as promiced...

edit: does it piss you off i sued an american for a larger sum than your parents house is worth?

 

[Canna Sylvan]

convicted felons can not grow in michigan. jerry duval was a convicted felon.

there is no state in the union where 174 plants is "state compliant", and good luck on convincing anyone that 174 plants are all for "personal use".

they rolled the dice, they got too big, they went down. that's what happens in this business. you get greedy and you get busted.

this goes back to obama not wanting to give carte blanche to an unregulated cannabis industry.

try again, my small minded amiga.

I thought you liberals were all for criminal rights. You putting the foot up the ass? Have you changed your voter registration to Republican yet?

 

[UncleBuck]

All these wonderfull statistics and analogies DOES NOT make up for the fact the man you idolise is an abject failure with no hope of bringing change.

http://www.tokeofthetown.com/2011/05/medical_marijuana_patients_number_750000_in_califo.php

750,000 in california.

259 busts according to you.

the chances of catching a case for medical cannabis in california is about 1 in 3000.

that's the same likelihood as being struck by lightning.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0623_040623_lightningfacts.html

i've noticed a marked change in the number of dispensaries and number of medical cannabis states, and even a couple of recreationally legal states.

it's certainly better than any change we would have seen under ritt momney, and about all you could hope for out of any administration.

i'll take my chances with lightning rather than ritt momney.