Did Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil get changed?

TreeOfLiberty

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This is the only soil I use. Straight from the bag. I add no perlite though I did years ago when first starting out. Some of the negative reviews I've heard are it holds too much water which is arguable if you like to water frequently, this is one of the reasons why I like using it as I don't have to water as much and in the beginning I made the same mistake like a lot of beginning growers do by using an inferior soil like Miracle Grow Organic in the brownish gold colored bag.


I top dress with my own home produced worm castings out of my worm bins. I NEVER use bottled nitrogen fertilizers. The only nitrogen my plants get come from what's in the soil and the top dressing of worm castings and worm teas. Since I trigger flowering on clones with plants that are around 9” tall, I don't see the need to hit them with bottled nitrogen and the plants do not run a nitrogen deficiency with as much worm castings as I use.


I do use the following-


Earth Juice Bloom , Earth Juice Catalyst , Earth Juice MicroBlast, Nectar of the Gods Humic Acid
and Grandma's Molasses for worm tea production, and a bag of Epsom Salt.


Another common complaint of FF Ocean Soil is that it's high in nitrogen, this might be a possibility also since I never use any type of “Grow” fertilizer out of a bottle and never have a nitrogen deficiency, but then again I go thru A LOT of worm castings but they are a non-burning source of nitrogen.


Some bags I've noticed have a slightly greater bark content compared to others. Overall, I am pleased with Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil. In December of 2011, my local grow store had a sale on FF Ocean Soil for $12.00 a bag, I stocked up and bought 10 bags.



I also use 3 gallon Root Pouch fabric pots. I'll never go back to flowering in solid plastic pots.
 

topfuel29

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I have been using FFOF for a while and never had a rotten moldy smell like this batch before.
It is so bad I am having breathing problems and my eyes feel they have dust in them.
I can't even stand over my plants without gagging is so bad.
Has anyone else here got some of the new FFOF soil and smelt something different?

FF soils have fallen off the mark. I've switched over to Dr. Earth. I was using the M3 soil, but it's just to expensive.
I can see it being a challenge to get the same mix (formula) of soil.
Having to find good soil to use.
Does anyone know off hand where there soil plant is? Alot of people use FF soils I wonder if they have more than just one Soil plant?
 

Twitch

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Actually, they do. I know because i'm a freight broker IRL and I move their product.

and i have seen the hydrofarm orders no they are in box trucks, hot ass box trucks. in fact i will get you the number for the hydrofarm distributor and you can ask them, they have a customer service line...

(972) 641-9997

call them asshole an ask since you think your right....
and yes some one will answer and yes it is hydrofarm, i dont say anything on this site i cant back up....
yes i am a dick
 

sheldonblack

Active Member
FF soils have fallen off the mark. I've switched over to Dr. Earth. I was using the M3 soil, but it's just to expensive.
I can see it being a challenge to get the same mix (formula) of soil.
Having to find good soil to use.
Does anyone know off hand where there soil plant is? Alot of people use FF soils I wonder if they have more than just one Soil plant?

I'm currently using FF ocean Frest, Happy Frog and Black Gold on same strains. This is an experimental grow I'm running to see if any of these soils alone (right outta box with some perlite added) without getting too crazy with them can do what I accomplish with my usual mixture(coco based). So far I'm not TOO happy, I'm feeding them with regular foxfarm nutes to keep it simple and try to keep ppm on lower side but still encountering some nute burns, hence having to flush more often than ever, so far black gold is doing best but still not 10/10. For the next grow, either I'll mix black gold with other medium or just stick with my coco.
 

DemonTrich

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im on my 12th bag of FFOF and NO issues so far (knock on wood). each bag has been consistent. I do add 1 cup of dolomite lime (powdered), and 1 bag of perlite per 1.5cu' of FFOF soil. I never use nutes in veg, only in flower. and I use technaflora recipe for success nute system.
 

Cobnobuler

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I use FFOF myself because I just can't find a good out-of-the-bag alternative. I once tried the Roots 707 and my vegging turned out an unnatural bright green color so I switched back. I do cut about 30 % perlite into mine though.
I'd love to try Subs super soil recepie but I can't afford all the ingrediants that go into it.
 
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