Peter King seeks the R nomination in 2016

[abandonconflict]

not a single american death?

Yeah cuz fuck those carpet pilots amirite?

 

[echelon1k1]

that lasted what, a month?

not a single american death?

that's the equivalent of echelon showing me a felon growing 156 plants after just clearing $300k and saying he's state compliant.

Nah Benghazi isn't in Libya... And blowback didn't lead to American deaths...

 

[abandonconflict]

 

[echelon1k1]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mutually exclusive

Afghanistan since late 2001, had nothing to do with UBL... Inferring Obamas escalation in Afghanistan led to the UBL raid is sophistry...

 

[abandonconflict]

Afghanistan since late 2001, had nothing to do with UBL... Inferring Obamas escalation in Afghanistan led to the UBL raid is sophistry...

Calling two things which are compatible mutually exclusive is sophistry. You don't have to get all mad again.

 

[abandonconflict]

List of Children Known to Have Been Killed by U.S. Govt Drone Strikes in Pakistan and Yemen

PAKISTAN
Name | Age | Gender
Noor Aziz | 8 | male
Abdul Wasit | 17 | male
Noor Syed | 8 | male
Wajid Noor | 9 | male
Syed Wali Shah | 7 | male
Ayeesha | 3 | female
Qari Alamzeb | 14| male
Shoaib | 8 | male
Hayatullah KhaMohammad | 16 | male
Tariq Aziz | 16 | male
Sanaullah Jan | 17 | male
Maezol Khan | 8 | female
Nasir Khan | male
Naeem Khan | male
Naeemullah | male
Mohammad Tahir | 16 | male
Azizul Wahab | 15 | male
Fazal Wahab | 16 | male
Ziauddin | 16 | male
Mohammad Yunus | 16 | male
Fazal Hakim | 19 | male
Ilyas | 13 | male
Sohail | 7 | male
Asadullah | 9 | male
khalilullah | 9 | male
Noor Mohammad | 8 | male
Khalid | 12 | male
Saifullah | 9 | male
Mashooq Jan | 15 | male
Nawab | 17 | male
Sultanat Khan | 16 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 13 | male
Noor Mohammad | 15 | male
Mohammad Yaas Khan | 16 | male
Qari Alamzeb | 14 | male
Ziaur Rahman | 17 | male
Abdullah | 18 | male
Ikramullah Zada | 17 | male
Inayatur Rehman | 16 | male
Shahbuddin | 15 | male
Yahya Khan | 16 |male
Rahatullah |17 | male
Mohammad Salim | 11 | male
Shahjehan | 15 | male
Gul Sher Khan | 15 | male
Bakht Muneer | 14 | male
Numair | 14 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Taseel Khan | 18 | male
Zaheeruddin | 16 | male
Qari Ishaq | 19 | male
Jamshed Khan | 14 | male
Alam Nabi | 11 | male
Qari Abdul Karim | 19 | male
Rahmatullah | 14 | male
Abdus Samad | 17 | male
Siraj | 16 | male
Saeedullah | 17 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Salman | 12 | male
Fazal Wahab | 18 | male
Baacha Rahman | 13 | male
Wali-ur-Rahman | 17 | male
Iftikhar | 17 | male
Inayatullah | 15 | male
Mashooq Khan | 16 | male
Ihsanullah | 16 | male
Luqman | 12 | male
Jannatullah | 13 | male
Ismail | 12 | male
Abdul Waris | 16 | male
Darvesh | 13 | male
Ameer Said | 15 | male
Shaukat | 14 | male
Inayatur Rahman | 17 | male
Adnan | 16 | male
Najibullah | 13 | male
Naeemullah | 17 | male
Hizbullah | 10 | male
Kitab Gul | 12 | male
Wilayat Khan | 11 | male
Zabihullah | 16 | male
Shehzad Gul | 11 | male
Shabir | 15 | male
Qari Sharifullah | 17 | male
Shafiullah | 16 | male
Nimatullah | 14 | male
Shakirullah | 16 | male
Talha | 8 | male

YEMEN
Afrah Ali Mohammed Nasser | 9 | female
Zayda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 7 | female
Hoda Ali Mohammed Nasser | 5 | female
Sheikha Ali Mohammed Nasser | 4 | female
Ibrahim Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 13 | male
Asmaa Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 9 | male
Salma Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | female
Fatima Abdullah Mokbel Salem Louqye | 3 | female
Khadije Ali Mokbel Louqye | 1 | female
Hanaa Ali Mokbel Louqye | 6 | female
Mohammed Ali Mokbel Salem Louqye | 4 | male
Jawass Mokbel Salem Louqye | 15 | female
Maryam Hussein Abdullah Awad | 2 | female
Shafiq Hussein Abdullah Awad | 1 | female
Sheikha Nasser Mahdi Ahmad Bouh | 3 | female
Maha Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 12 | male
Soumaya Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 9 | female
Shafika Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 4 | female
Shafiq Mohammed Saleh Mohammed | 2 | male
Mabrook Mouqbal Al Qadari | 13 | male
Daolah Nasser 10 years | 10 | female
AbedalGhani Mohammed Mabkhout | 12 | male
Abdel- Rahman Anwar al Awlaki | 16 | male
Abdel-Rahman al-Awlaki | 17 | male
Nasser Salim | 19 Male

 

[echelon1k1]

Calling two things which are compatible mutually exclusive is sophistry. You don't have to get all mad again.

Explain the compatibility warrior...

 

[abandonconflict]

Well you see, an escalation of OEF did not preclude or exclude the abduction of Osama Bin Laden. Therefore the two events can both have happened, as they did. Therefore they are not mutually exclusive.

 

[echelon1k1]

Well you see, an escalation of OEF did not preclude or exclude the abduction of Osama Bin Laden. Therefore the two events can both have happened, as they did. Therefore they are not mutually exclusive.

We are talking about the inference that escalating Afghan led to the kill/capture of UBL... The below is sophistry and you know it...

he only escalated afghanistan and now bin laden is sleeping with the fishes.

As I said, Afghanistan had nothing to do with UBL since late 2001 to early 2002 when they confirmed he was not buried in an unmarked grave.

The only mutual exclusivity was the chapman attack and even then career case officers got played...

 

[abandonconflict]

You called two events which are completely congruous (see reality) mutually exclusive, while calling the person who pointed out that these two congruous events did in fact both occur a sophist. Australia's education system must not be too good. Too many pedos?

 

[UncleBuck]

We are talking about the inference that escalating Afghan led to the kill/capture of UBL... The below is sophistry and you know it...



As I said, Afghanistan had nothing to do with UBL since late 2001 to early 2002 when they confirmed he was not buried in an unmarked grave.

The only mutual exclusivity was the chapman attack and even then career case officers got played...

everything i said was true.

the only conflict obama has escalated was afghanistan, and now bin laden is dead.

you gonna get all cranky about that, walrus fucker?

 

[abandonconflict]

the only conflict obama has escalated was afghanistan

That's not true.

 

[echelon1k1]

everything i said was true.

the only conflict obama has escalated was afghanistan, and now bin laden is dead.

you gonna get all cranky about that, walrus fucker?

Obama escalating Afghanistan did not lead to UBLs kill. Oh and I'm very happy because I don't live with this monstrosity;

 

[UncleBuck]

That's not true.

then dazzle me with tales of the wars he has started willy nilly.

did he send 100 special forces to central africa? sure. so what?

did he send a few planes and bombs to libya? sure did. so what? it was over a month later without a single american death.

anything you can point out will pale in comparison to iraq, and even that conflict pales in comparison to other conflicts we have been in since WWII. the only difference is that it was completely pointless, rather than just mostly pointless.

 

[UncleBuck]

Obama escalating Afghanistan did not lead to UBLs kill.

how do you know where the intelligence that led to bin laden's courier came from?

i know you sit around all day reading up on my posting history, but that doesn't make you special ops intelligence inner circle or anything, it just makes you a pathetic, angry little scarred "war" vet.

 

[echelon1k1]

how do you know where the intelligence that led to bin laden's courier came from?

i know you sit around all day reading up on my posting history, but that doesn't make you special ops intelligence inner circle or anything, it just makes you a pathetic, angry little scarred "war" vet.

I do know where some of it came from and it wasn't through torture nor was it from KFC... Stick to what you know best, fetishist; BBW, "cross trolling" and masturbating to pictures of teenagers, filthy pedo...

 

[abandonconflict]

pale in comparison to iraq.

You miss the point. Altogether, however, I think you actually ignore the point, because you came in simply to point out that he didn't start Iraq, that is not the end of it though.

Obama resurrected the petrodollar.

Just because the cost for Americans was not as great as that of OIF does not mean that he did not effectively knock sovereign nations into submission. In fact, the very fact that he achieved this with so little cost should deserve the praise of warmongers. Sun Tzu would be impressed.

We have a totally different war machine now. There won't ever be need for conventional infantry again. That, along with the fact that infantry drill sergeants are the greatest indoctrinators in the world is why women are allowed in combat arms now. The military industrial complex was in its death throes and now after only a few short years, it is secure again as the most powerful empire on earth and strengthening. Barack Obama is the most powerful person in history.

 

[UncleBuck]

We have a totally different war machine now. There won't ever be need for conventional infantry again.

that's probably not true, but i wish it were.

The military industrial complex was in its death throes...

LOLWUT.

and now after only a few short years, it is secure again as the most powerful empire on earth and strengthening.

damn skippy.

and we're not even using that asset to invade nations like iraq willy nilly.

 

[UncleBuck]

I do know where some of it came from and it wasn't through torture nor was it from KFC... Stick to what you know best, fetishist; BBW, "cross trolling" and masturbating to pictures of teenagers, filthy pedo...

i'm the one who personally interrogated the guy who led us to the courier.

good job on the KFC reference, your racial resentment goes very well with your anti-semitism, holocaust denial, and joining of "like minded" groups of white supremacists.

 

[abandonconflict]

that's probably not true, but i wish it were.



LOLWUT.



damn skippy.

and we're not even using that asset to invade nations like iraq willy nilly.

He had the chance to totally change course though. We could have pulled out or at least drawn back, even if for no other reason than to save money. That money could have paid for a real bail out, not the BS bail out that mostly went to the banks and which I contend, even the tiny bit that actually became stimulus was very effective. We could have had a big enough stim to change the economy away from the military industrial complex. Instead he grabbed more power.

He even promised change. The next president probably will use that power, willy nilly new world order.