smokeytokeybear
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Amen to that
400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy
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KronicCraig
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My room (slightly rearranged)
Buddin up
Two Royal Flushes
jondamon
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Looking sweet KC.
What sort of training do you do with your plants?
I see some that look topped/LST'd while some others left to do their own thing.
I'm going to be trying my hand at a bit of mainlining soon.
Just have to stop being lazy and clean my area down to start again lol.
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KronicCraig
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I FIM'd both of them once; Pakistan Valley has 5 main colas, The Doctor has 4 main colas and 2 lil ones. I have done a lil bending on some of my taller branches to keep height down and fill in spacing some. I wanna try mainlining too; i just put a skywalker og (reserva privada) and chronic (serious) seeds into germination last night, so i'm pry gonna try it with the Chronic, since it is known to be an easy grow with thick colas and solid structure. I'm trying a lot of different methods at the moment for my no flowering plants: the 2 Royal Flushes are potted together and lower growth removed, the SLH and Underdawg OG are being grown straight up, the Cotton Candy is going to be topped tonight, and thinking about putting the Skywalker into bondage as she grows.
jondamon
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Like your ideas.
I'm trying mainline on DINAFEM CRITICAL+, HSO PINEAPPLE SKUNK, HSO OG KUSH and possibly another yet to be decided.
Like I said though I've got to do my clean down yet.
Lol its always the same after I harvest especially while smoking my latest batch of critical+ I don't want to do fuck all after a few smokes. Lol.
Currently got about 3oz of critical+ that's been curing for about 2 weeks, 7oz of fruity chronic juice currently curing since Saturday and about another 5oz hanging drying which should be ready for jars on Friday.
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KronicCraig
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True! I should be harvesting my two plants in batches, pry starting in about 2-3 weeks. Its looking like at least an ounce per plant easy, not sure how much of the smaller buds i'm gonna keep for smoke vs using for bubble hash. My gf loves bud more, while i love the sheesh. Had a friend from Morocco who's family used to import it over here and hands down is the best thing that has every entered my lungs.
jondamon
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I used to like a bit of hash. At one point it was all you could get in the UK.
I used to love Lebanise Temple Ball.
Hmmm.
Ooh and double zero.
Oh the good o'l days. Lol.
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KronicCraig
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I have 3 plants that just started their first days of flowering, two more still in veg, and another two in germination...going through diff breeders and strains to find the top few we both like and then eventually settle on just a few to keep around to perfect and maybe breed (if legality and $$$ permit).
I have a Dinafem Blue Cheese Auto that I'm excited to try, but its way down the list of seeds to plant. Still have to get through SAGE n Sour, Critical Kush, and Snowbud first. Plus I wanna get some TGA seeds but gf says i gotta wait til our money turns around until I can get any more.
I have a Dinafem Blue Cheese Auto that I'm excited to try, but its way down the list of seeds to plant. Still have to get through SAGE n Sour, Critical Kush, and Snowbud first. Plus I wanna get some TGA seeds but gf says i gotta wait til our money turns around until I can get any more.
KronicCraig
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Haha most ppl down here in FL I bet have never even seen any hash. They're such weed idiots down here. Ppl try to sell quality weed without knowing anything about it other than whats obvious to the senses. Pitiful what they call dank around here. After finding a homegrower who knows everything about his weed, I won't buy from anyone else (and hopefully in a lil while, I'll never have to buy again!)
glockdoc
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great work all loved seeing some lovely pictures!
main reason why you stop using nitrogen thou is because theres something in the nitrogen ( a type of nitrate) that YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SMOKING. its bad for your over a long period of time. thats the only reason plain and simple. no one was wrong which was the funny part about the minor arguements.
main reason why you stop using nitrogen thou is because theres something in the nitrogen ( a type of nitrate) that YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SMOKING. its bad for your over a long period of time. thats the only reason plain and simple. no one was wrong which was the funny part about the minor arguements.
MrEDuck
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Lots of microorganisms oxidize ammonical nitrogen to nitrates, that's why plants can use nitrates. I'd love to see a paper about smoking nitrate N fed plants being any worse than smoking plants fed ammonium or urea N or even flushed. Good taste comes from a plants genetics and a good cure.
KronicCraig
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I don't think it exists; def not worried about Nitrogen any, since it's the most abundant element in the air we breath and in the plants we eat. As long as it doesn't contain any of the heavier, irradiated, or inert elements, you should be alright. I wonder what uranium ore would do for marijuana...might create a Super Marijuana strain that grows to 10 feet tall in less than a week, flowers in 25 days and has 40+ colas full of sugary resin and every terpene imaginable. Or it'll kill you the instant u smoke it....lol.
glockdoc
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Extra; Extra.... read all about it
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/faq/11-smoking.htm
http://michigancannabispatients.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30&start=0&sid=89192dafe52abe1e96f9359bb80a8cf8&view=print
trust me when i tell you prolonged smoking of it is very bad. one of the main reasons behind flushing (inhibits nute lockout). nitrogen gets turned into nitrate by the plant, then the plant turns that nitrate into nitrite. you know what that nitrite turns into next inside the plant?!?! ammonium. all forms of fertilizing nitrogen will turn into ammonium at some point. most ferts use ammonium based nitrogen.
dont want to argue def. after posting a post about why others shouldnt argue because the chances are us too Educk; could both be right to an extent.
my dads a bio chemist btw
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/faq/11-smoking.htm
http://michigancannabispatients.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30&start=0&sid=89192dafe52abe1e96f9359bb80a8cf8&view=print
trust me when i tell you prolonged smoking of it is very bad. one of the main reasons behind flushing (inhibits nute lockout). nitrogen gets turned into nitrate by the plant, then the plant turns that nitrate into nitrite. you know what that nitrite turns into next inside the plant?!?! ammonium. all forms of fertilizing nitrogen will turn into ammonium at some point. most ferts use ammonium based nitrogen.
dont want to argue def. after posting a post about why others shouldnt argue because the chances are us too Educk; could both be right to an extent.
my dads a bio chemist btw
glockdoc
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nitrite is the carcinogen whether smoked or ingested. this is why u dont use excessive nitrogen.... who knows what part of the atp process the plant ended in never mind the process of where it ended breaking down that nitrogen.. u could have raw nitrogen (maybe not so harmful) it could be broken down to the nitrate of its base make (ammonium, urea, nitrate...all same thing) it could of started to break down and disperse ammonium thru the roots while still containing some within if the plant has finished breaking down the nitrite into plain ammonium but we cant tell so we ARE TOLD to flush for a week or 2... inhibit lockout and remove all nutes especially the most mobile one being nitrogen is the only way to know you will get what the bud is suppose to taste like....after all, after a flush the plant is full of plain water
Dboi87
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Hey kitehigh. I'm a new grower and I am really curious about the science of growing. Why do you and others say flushing is pointless. This is by no means an attack. Just looking to be more knowledgeable. I like to know the why behind anything i choose to do
MrEDuck
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Neither of those links have references to scholarly articles other than one that shows that smoke from burning plant matter is similar regardless of the plant. Smoking anything is bad for you. One of the reasons that scientists starting looking at the cancer fighting power of pot was that people who just smoke pot have no higher incidence of lung cancer than non smokers and people who smoke both pot and tobacco have a lower incidence of lung cancer than people who smoke tobacco alone. Of course it's not a guaranteed cure, cancer is what killed Bob Marley after all.Extra; Extra.... read all about it
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/faq/11-smoking.htm
http://michigancannabispatients.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=30&start=0&sid=89192dafe52abe1e96f9359bb80a8cf8&view=print
trust me when i tell you prolonged smoking of it is very bad. one of the main reasons behind flushing (inhibits nute lockout). nitrogen gets turned into nitrate by the plant, then the plant turns that nitrate into nitrite. you know what that nitrite turns into next inside the plant?!?! ammonium. all forms of fertilizing nitrogen will turn into ammonium at some point. most ferts use ammonium based nitrogen.
dont want to argue def. after posting a post about why others shouldnt argue because the chances are us too Educk; could both be right to an extent.
my dads a bio chemist btw
Also since N is mobile in the plant (and often the reactions that lead to it being mobile involve oxidation and reduction) when you flush your plant is burning up N in older leaves first. So you start losing N in the oldest fan leaves, then the smaller fans, then finally the bud leaves. If you ever get them to stop being green all the way into the bud I want to know how much yield you lost. It takes a long time for a plant to catabolize all of that green, and unless you're doing a long flush in a totally inert medium the bits of the trim leaves that don't get cut off are still going to be green! Don't overfeed and cure your buds and they will taste delicious without flushing. Smoking them will still have a negative impact on your health in many ways. Because breathing in smoke is BAD.
You can get heavy metals and other toxins in organics just as easily. I don't have the cite handy but I know someone who did a study on pesticide residue on organic veggies vs regular ones. Yes the organics had less of the modern pesticides, but the shit we really worry about like DDT is pretty evenly spread throughout the worlds farmland and isn't going away for at least 250 years.
I am a medicinal chemist by training, btw.
KronicCraig
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I am a former Supreme Water Maker & Boiler (ie Nuclear Reactor Mechanical Supervisor). We used to make our own de-ionized & drinking water from the saltiest waters all over the world using distilling units, H-OH demineralizers, cation filters and a rigorous sampling frequency. Needless to say, chemistry, physics, biology, and metallurgy were extremely present and I have FIRSTHAND knowledge of these topics and a lot of interactions all the way up the Periodic Table of Elements (Uranium, Cesium, Ribidium, Hydrogen, etc).
Oh and most organic growers don't call it flushing, it's just feeding to them.
I'm not even going into your nitrogen, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia argument because that doesn't happen for a generally happen for a long time and is not at a level to be hazardous, like the levels found in cigarettes.
Oh and most organic growers don't call it flushing, it's just feeding to them.
I'm not even going into your nitrogen, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia argument because that doesn't happen for a generally happen for a long time and is not at a level to be hazardous, like the levels found in cigarettes.