A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

[Dboi87]

And while on the subject, what sativa strains available online would you recommend?

 

[Uncle Ben]

And while on the subject, what sativa strains available online would you recommend?

Considering I haven't ordered seeds in a blue moon and have no intent to start now, can't make a fair recommendation. Perhaps someone else will chime in.

UB

 

[Impman]

Uncle Ben rules! i love growing now cuz of UB. read UB

 

[Dboi87]

And by the way UB I read you post on diffused light and I took it all in. But direct light and diffused isn't the topic at hand. What I'm trying to ask is whether a leaf on branch "A" photosynthesizes for only branch "A" or does it photosynthesize for the plant as a whole?

 

[Dboi87]

Considering I haven't ordered seeds in a blue moon and have no intent to start now, can't make a fair recommendation. Perhaps someone else will chime in.

UB

Well what have been your fav strains in general whether from a seed bank or not? We all know you're an awesome botanist/horticulturalist. I'm kinda curious about uncle ben the SMOKER

 

[Uncle Ben]

And by the way UB I read you post on diffused light and I took it all in. But direct light and diffused isn't the topic at hand. What I'm trying to ask is whether a leaf on branch "A" photosynthesizes for only branch "A" or does it photosynthesize for the plant as a whole?

It feeds the entire plant.

 

[Sativied]

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Leaf porn!

 

[Dboi87]

Lol thanks for the reply UB. I can tell you're like (sigh) "f****** nooooooob". I swear I'm doin my homework but certain questions burn at the back of my mind, as elementary to you as they may seem and an instant reply from a vet like you hits the spot. Gratitude brother. That lets me know I don't have to rotate my plants since I have a vertical light (hand me down with no r eflector) to make sure each individual bud site gets even light.

 

[Dboi87]

Also UB first and foremost I'd like you to know that you are the person I've learned most from. My first ever bit of cannabis lit I read was your topping tutorial. I have mad respect for you. Sometimes though I'm almost a little scared to ask you things for fear of being condescended. I think I can speak for most community members when I say that no matter how lame our questions may be we ask because we honor and respect your experience and knowledge. Botany has been around for ages and yes marijuana is just another plant. But most of us would have never grown anything but thistles and dandelions had it not been for mary jane. So when we jump in head first we walk into a world where the simple is transformed into rocket science and finding the answers is just as simple as finding truth in politics. We need and want your guidance. In the end you've already done monumental things as far as teaching and I wouldn't be surprised if you life forever in marijuana growing culture. I just hope you can keep the love for it and remember maybe what it was like for you the first time you grew a living thing from seed to maturity and remember that we are all going through that same learning curve. Thanks again for all you've done. + rep for what its worth :/

 

[Dboi87]

Ok never mind... apparently I have to "spread rep" before I can give you more. Super lame

 

[HeartlandHank]

Dboi... I've grown some pretty good sativa leaning hybrids. There are many to choose from.

Short answer: Sugar Punch - Sannies Shop

Long answer: The question to ask is... how many weeks of flowering are you willing to take on? There are options at any length.

I like to use seedfinder to check lineage and see what I am getting. You can just google "plant name seedfinder" example: Northern Lights seedfiner. click the link that is seedfinder.xxx.ccc it will break down the lineage for you.

There are lots of bad choices in the seed biz... waaay more than good choices. I suggest coming up with your choice and posting here. Someone will let you know if it is a bad choice. Some seedbanks are scams or known to be unreliable... some breeders are known to put out junk or problematic genetics. Many breeders are coming out with little rep and the verdict is still out on them. I like to stick with the proven breeders, but, avoid the old breeders who with an established name have little to prove.

Here are a few to look into...

7-9 wks - most any of the C99 plants. Apollo 11. Others, I forget. If you have the coin try out Dr Greenthumbs c99. His seeds are a little more expensive but I've been very impressed with the results from Dr GT. c99 is speedy. Speedy effects and speedy flowering. The fastest flowering sativa leaning plant you will find. Easy to grow.

10-11 wks - Sugar Punch, Killing Fields - From SanniesShop. Great stuff... really great. I like Sannie too.. You can get on his forum (google it) and see people growing his seeds. There are a handful of active VERY good growers over there with REALLY nice cameras. Great people too. Sannie seems like very good people.

12-13 wks - Many Haze varieties... with killing fields and sugar punch, you'll prbly find one plant in the pack that takes 12-13 wks... Having haze in the name doesn't make it what I would call "haze". You can get hazes that flower in as little as 10 wks and beyond 14.

14+ - Jamaican Lambsbread - Never grown it but have smoked Columbian Gold and Lambsbread. This is a commitment, and a difficult one at that.. If you have not had 4-5 grows under your belt I would suggest putting a hold on this one. With 4-5 grows under your belt, be prepared for a challenge. And, lots of vertical space.

I would recommend Sannies Shop. I've grown the killing fields and love it. I've heard the Sugar punch is even better.. I believe it is basically Killing fields x Super silver haze. Those are two of my favorite sativa leaning plants.. I could only imagine (and have heard) the smoke is fantastic. If you made me give you one choice... I would say Sugar Punch. Super silver haze is fucking GREAT... but it's dependent on who you get it from. I got mine from Beanhoarder... his packs can be hit or miss. I searched through many plants to find my 2 keepers. With Sugar Punch... you can trust Sannies work... you get killing fields, which is fucking GREAT.. and, you get a good Super Silver Haze which is fucking great... I would go with that.

A common sativa that new folks seem to be pulled towards is Kali Mist. I would not recommend this pack. A partner grew it out and was quite disappointed. Also, I have seen many bad reviews... apparently, Kali Mist was reworked some years ago to make for shorter flower times and easier growth. The result was a plant that has little sativa-like effects.

 

[HeartlandHank]

And... to UB... Cheers.
It's great to have such an experienced botanist around as an active member. I keep a tab on your posts. Learning, picking up little bits all the time. Stick around, please. Your contribution to RIU is great.

You also got me in to the idea of growing grapes... I appreciate that.

Taking a look, and getting deeper and deeper into the world of botany... growing grapes kinda seems like the real deal as far as production-like gardening goes. I'm really looking forward to getting that going. I won't go bothering you with every little question I might have... but... I might want to pick your brain a time or two... get your thoughts on questions with answers that are not easily found around the web.

 

[HeartlandHank]

Sometimes though I'm almost a little scared to ask you things for fear of being condescended.

Whaaaa? UB? No...

 

[HeartlandHank]

It's a shame it's come to this, but yeah, I'd be careful of what I say on the internet and social networks like Facebook. Like I said, the only secure form of communication is using PGP. In the old days when there was only Usenet we used PGP (or a form of it) and chain-linked thru many encrypted servers such that you didn't know where it originated or if you were not last in line didn't know where it (the message) was headed. TOR's a damn good program.

UB

I hear TOR mail is gone. Along with a good chunk of the dark web..
Apparently a hosting service went down.

 

[Dboi87]

Thanks kitehigh! I appreciate you taking the time reply. Super helpful!

 

[Dboi87]

Thanks to UB I've caught myself riding in the car looking at trees and bushes and thinking "hmmm those could use some nitrogen"....

 

[Darth Budder]

It's a shame it's come to this, but yeah, I'd be careful of what I say on the internet and social networks like Facebook. Like I said, the only secure form of communication is using PGP. In the old days when there was only Usenet we used PGP (or a form of it) and chain-linked thru many encrypted servers such that you didn't know where it originated or if you were not last in line didn't know where it (the message) was headed. TOR's a damn good program.

UB

USENET!? Were you postin shit on GOPHER boards too?! UB just got more respect! lol.

 

[Sativied]

Short answer: Sugar Punch - Sannies Shop

Based on "hearing" and "imagining".

Frankly I find that quite silly to recommend a sativa you've never grown or taste. But at the same time it shows how reading 'can' make up for a lack of experience in some area.

That bitched, I agree and that's coming from someone who grown and smoked it for over 4 months.

Unfortunately it's sold out (should be available again any time now, after nearly 10 months and some failed attempts to 'recreate' the SP). It needs more like 9-10wks, than 10-11 wks (subtract a week from them amber growers).

After a month or two curing it became the best tasting mj I smoked in over 2 decades. Seriously, that's as unbiased as I can put it. Sannie is one of the few dutch growers who has a clue of what he's doing - hence a breeder and owner of the only real dutch grow forum as well.

A common sativa that new folks seem to be pulled towards is Kali Mist. I would not recommend this pack. A partner grew it out and was quite disappointed. Also, I have seen many bad reviews... apparently, Kali Mist was reworked some years ago to make for shorter flower times and easier growth. The result was a plant that has little sativa-like effects.

Oh you recommend against certain sativas too while you haven't grown it? Weird man... ah well. A local shop here sells Cali Miss from a grower who can't spell... it's one of the best on the menu in my city atm. Really decent smoke and high effect.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Also UB first and foremost I'd like you to know that you are the person I've learned most from. My first ever bit of cannabis lit I read was your topping tutorial. I have mad respect for you. Sometimes though I'm almost a little scared to ask you things for fear of being condescended. I think I can speak for most community members when I say that no matter how lame our questions may be we ask because we honor and respect your experience and knowledge. Botany has been around for ages and yes marijuana is just another plant. But most of us would have never grown anything but thistles and dandelions had it not been for mary jane. So when we jump in head first we walk into a world where the simple is transformed into rocket science and finding the answers is just as simple as finding truth in politics. We need and want your guidance. In the end you've already done monumental things as far as teaching and I wouldn't be surprised if you life forever in marijuana growing culture. I just hope you can keep the love for it and remember maybe what it was like for you the first time you grew a living thing from seed to maturity and remember that we are all going through that same learning curve. Thanks again for all you've done. + rep for what its worth :/

Gotta crawl before you walk...we've all been there. Best teacher is experience. Thanks for the kind words......

Tio

 

[HeartlandHank]

Based on "hearing" and "imagining".

Frankly I find that quite silly to recommend a sativa you've never grown or taste. But at the same time it shows how reading 'can' make up for a lack of experience in some area.

Frankly, I find seals in clown clothing silly...

Here's my thinking...
-I have grown (and still do) Killing Fields... 50% of this cross i suggested. I still grow two of the plants quite a bit. I'm taking cuts of my favorite of the two today.
-I have grown 4 different SSH plants quite a bit, 2 of which I have been growing for over 5 years and am still growing to this day
-I am a member at opengrow and I have watched some fine plants come from the pack I suggested.
-I trust Sannies work.

Put it all together... now is that silly?

As to Kali Mist... As I said, my partner has grown out some recent Kali Mist seeds. We like to share notes, genetics, garden space.

Lastly... Fuck you, buddy.