I agree and even after the guy has been vindicated people still want to believe he is guilty, shit like that really sticks.
I'm also thinking that girl went to the police because she was either cheated on or dumped, hell hath no fury and all that.
Life in prison for letting a 13 year old boy touch your tits
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I'm also thinking that girl went to the police because she was either cheated on or dumped, hell hath no fury and all that.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Yeah.. they didn't really get into details about why they broke up, guy just said something about trust issues..
The really crazy part is he has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.. man, talk about getting the short end of the stick..
That is crazy, with something so detrimentally life changing there should be guidelines for the use of good ol' common sense.
The worst part is when future employers etc do a check I'm sure the file won't say "was 18 years old and having consentual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend", it will say sex offender and automatically people will come to the worst possible conclusion that he fiddled with a child or something.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Funny you say that as they followed the guy around on the show and he went on a few job interviews and first thing he told them was he is a sex offender.. just the looks the interviewers gave him spoke volumes about his chance of landing a job.. which was about zero IMO..
Oh yeah.. and if he got a job, the cops call your place of employment and inform them you're a sex offender so it's like yeah you screwed up, but Christ it seems like your punishment never ends..
I just fail to see how that is justice.. Idk..
I don't even understand how it even went as far as court in the first place, what DA would really want to prosecute such a case unless it was election time or something, it's also quite apparent to me that the GF although younger than the guy is devious,manipulative and probably a little smarter than the guy.
Poor guy is gonna come up on online searches with those blue dots indicating where he lives.
Surely a decent lawyer could have gotten it down to a misdemeanour or something.
One would hope that the bitch gets what's coming to her someday.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
That's why mandatory minimum sentences should be abolished in this country..
It takes the particulars out of any case and forces judges to hand down sentences that aren't always fitting for the circumstances just because some one some where said any offender of x crime should receive x punishment ..
It takes the particulars out of any case and forces judges to hand down sentences that aren't always fitting for the circumstances just because some one some where said any offender of x crime should receive x punishment ..
Jimdamick
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They entire judicial system in this country is fucked, all the way up to the Supreme court. Not one of the participants in the Wall St meltdown served a day in jail, even though EVERYONE admitted laws were broken. I had a friend who was 18 at the time, and he was busted with a oz of blow in NY under the Rockefeller laws, and received 25 to life, and had to serve 25 years minimum. Another school chum murdered a dude, and received 25 to life with the possibility of parole after 15 years served. It's all politics and having enough money to pay for a decent lawyer. I'll bet if her attorney played golf with the DA she would be walking around right now. Oh yea, my friend with the blow finally did get out. He was 43. Peace out
Beefbisquit
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Mandatory sentences aren't the problem when laws are properly defined. In certain situations, I think mandatory minimum sentencing can serve a purpose.
It seems it was selective sentencing for a selective prosecution.
I'm thinking statutory rape is a federal offence so why are other sections of society not prosecuted for the exact same crime, different religions promote marriage at 16 etc.
Different country I know but here in Ireland there was a case some years ago where something similar happened except both kids were under age but the guy was the only one prosecuted even though his GF was guilty of the exact same crime, I don't remember the sentence but it wasn't much, probably a warning and probation but the same mindset exists, the onus is always going to be on the male to prove there wasn't coercion or pressure used in such relationships and the girl if she sheds a few tears and tells her Daddy she loves him is seen as the victim.
I really feel for that kid but it's good his story is getting air time and exposure, if his name is googled at least the MTV clips would be on youtube.
I know if he was related to me I would have revenge on my mind no matter how long it took.
I would bet my house that if the girl was 18 and the guy 16 there would have been no prosecution.
BygonEra
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Um... this has nothing to do with her being a woman. Did you watch the video? The defense mentioned other cases of sexual abuse cases involving WOMEN to compare the sentencing to. I would recommend watching the video before assuming the sentencing is "unfair" simply because she's a woman and should therefore get it easy... that's ridiculous.
RPM371
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Check out 7 time PRCA All Around Cowboy Trevor Brazile's father, Jimmy Brazile. The 60 year old Brazile was giving private "roping" lessons to a then 15 year old female. He was rather quietly convicted in 2008, received parole 2 years later and is living with the same girl who's now over 18. Of course the "Christian" image of the Brazile rodeo empire had nothing to do with all this getting swept under the rug and absolutely no coverage of him living with his "victim".
One state's life sentence is another's "wait two years and then ya'll can start humping again".
Padawanbater2
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You certainly chose a poor example to prove your point.. A point which would otherwise be rational, given certain circumstances.. For example, a 16-17 year old girl consents to sex with an 18+ (given +3 years), no charges can legally be filed given the state of consent. It's difficult for me to comment on the mindset of a young girl giving consent at the same age I can imagine I would, (which I'm sure would have been 13, 14.. 15.. if I could have..). Women like sex just as much as men do, so why should the penalties for consentual sex be any different, excluding obvious age barriers?
ginjawarrior
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Its the response from people on here if the situation was reversed and it was a grown man engaging in lewd acts with a 13 year-old boy/girl then there's no way there would be same attitude in this thread
"Its no big deal" "it's all 13 year-old kids think of"
- Fuck I would have been a kid in the candy store if it was me when I was 13 .. I bet the kid whacks off every night thinking about this encounter
That's what I'm saying.. plus.. wtf 13 year old kid would tell their parents they got some ffs?
Would you be comfortable hearing the above said about a 13 year-old female victim of sexual assault?
BBbubblegum
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Completley fair. If a man had a 13 year old girl touch him in the same manner, he would receive the same sentence. Women want equality when it benefits them (jobs, ability to own land, voting) but they dont want the cons. Few things get me more angry when i see women hitting men under the impression they wont be hit back.
karousing
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if a 13 year old girl touched some guys chest and was like oooo nipples.....
he would be like... girl, i think you're retarded.
if he was like "Hey! you gonna touch my nipples!!"
thats a different story.
she should have gotten a psych evaluation and most likely mental care in a facility.
she didnt force the boy to fuck her, didnt touch his dick, did not make him do anything that is really sexual. he got to poke some titties. i used to do that with girls in school at the age of 13. some of them were even 17-18 year olds.
she was mentally, physically, sexually abused as a child and has some problems most likely. therefore she should be in a mental institution. not a prison with a life sentence.
once again. what the fuck is wrong with you people.
he would be like... girl, i think you're retarded.
if he was like "Hey! you gonna touch my nipples!!"
thats a different story.
she should have gotten a psych evaluation and most likely mental care in a facility.
she didnt force the boy to fuck her, didnt touch his dick, did not make him do anything that is really sexual. he got to poke some titties. i used to do that with girls in school at the age of 13. some of them were even 17-18 year olds.
she was mentally, physically, sexually abused as a child and has some problems most likely. therefore she should be in a mental institution. not a prison with a life sentence.
once again. what the fuck is wrong with you people.
I agree, it seems in this case it was easier for her to be locked up than to help her sort out her head.
As previously mentioned if a guy whipped it out for a 13 year old kid to touch then he deserves to go to jail but go to any beach etc on a hot day and womens bare breasts are on show so genitalia they are not.
She shouldn't have done it but it definitely doesn't warrant locking her up for life.
I'm aware that in the US life means life for murder and rape but In this case does life mean life?
RPM371
Well-Known Member
The disparity in the the sentences was my point. One person gets life for slight contact while the other gets 10 and out in 2 for repeated intercourse for over two years. If the sentences were reversed, I'd understand.
It really all boils down to mandatory minimums and the problems they cause.
ginjawarrior
Well-Known Member
us people? we take child abuse seriously and dont invent bullshit scenarios to excuse someone just because they're a woman
the vast majority of child abusers were abused as children. yes there should be more done to help them
but ultimately if they do not seek out help and if they proceed to pass their abuse down the line to the next generation then its time for the judicial system to punish them
karousing
Well-Known Member
this was never once about her being a woman. this was about a sentence that was completely over the top. it boils down to all people that abuse usually have problems. and yes, they should receive mental care. The child that was supposedly abused in this situation should receive some MENTAL CARE (even though he probably thinks it was awesome he got to touch tits).
how about the fact that kid now has to live in fear of touching woman because the last time he touched one they were put in jail... FOR LIFE.
your retarded, ass-backward, pathetic excuse for a country is nothing more then a stain on humanity.
you let people that do actual harm get away
you encourage violence, killing, lying, cheating, stealing, fuck everyone only care about yourself mentality, and worst of all you encourage the autopilot/zombie mode as seen way too much with people doing shit because " ITS ERR JAWWB"
fucking pathetic.
ginjawarrior
Well-Known Member
Grow the fuck up and see how your treating this different because she's a woman
Too late for mental care she crossed the line into physical
You have no idea how disgusting I find you attitude about a child abuse victim
Wow just gets better
So your saying we shouldn't jail kiddy fiddlers because it might hurt the kid?
Why don't you just ignore the fact that the kidney fiddlers put the kid in that position
Kiddy fiddling doesn't cause actual harm?
You just spent last post encouraging kiddy fiddling not sure what leg you have to stand on