Aussi Baseball Player killed...

[UncleBuck]

he im surprised this is being made news...he said a lot of things, showing an attitude of racism and hatred of white people. im curious if he will be charged with hate crimes. I don't buy the shit of "but there was a white kid involved, which doesn't make it a racist hate crime" but if he had been the killer of a black guy then it WOULD matter. bullshit is bullshit whatever the color, it still stinks.

they were on their way to kill a black guy if that makes you feel any better.

and coming from you, the piece of shit who thinks every muslim wants to kill him, you really have no room to speak on these issues.

 

[londonfog]

he im surprised this is being made news...he said a lot of things, showing an attitude of racism and hatred of white people. im curious if he will be charged with hate crimes. I don't buy the shit of "but there was a white kid involved, which doesn't make it a racist hate crime" but if he had been the killer of a black guy then it WOULD matter. bullshit is bullshit whatever the color, it still stinks.

I think you want this to be about race...when it is not. People like yourself only creates confusion for all who actually want to get along and find a way to live with each other.

 

[ultraviolet pirate]

they were on their way to kill a black guy if that makes you feel any better.

and coming from you, the piece of shit who thinks every muslim wants to kill him, you really have no room to speak on these issues.

im sorry man, I will leave the opinions to you. you know everything, don't you, with all the room to speak on these things, having a lifetime of wisdom to share, none of us others count, do we?....and dude....you REALLY need to get offline if you can keep track of what someone said 3 years ago...kinda coppish, piggish, fuzzy, if you get my drift...sorta adds weight to the talk of you being a snitch. I would ask your opinion on what constitutes hate crimes but I know it wont make sense. you will break out a little graph, talk shit on whites, all the while dreaming of Obama cuckolding you and your misses. and please, post and attack. its a lot safer than the real world.

 

[ultraviolet pirate]

I think you want this to be about race...when it is not. People like yourself only creates confusion for all who actually want to get along and find a way to live with each other.

uh oh, looks like im about to be labeled racist. gotta learn to tip toe around you sensitive types. please note: the guy I mention in my signature, he was a black man and a brother. I even named a daughter after him

 

[UncleBuck]

im sorry man, I will leave the opinions to you. you know everything, don't you, with all the room to speak on these things, having a lifetime of wisdom to share, none of us others count, do we?....and dude....you REALLY need to get offline if you can keep track of what someone said 3 years ago...kinda coppish, piggish, fuzzy, if you get my drift...sorta adds weight to the talk of you being a snitch. I would ask your opinion on what constitutes hate crimes but I know it wont make sense. you will break out a little graph, talk shit on whites, all the while dreaming of Obama cuckolding you and your misses. and please, post and attack. its a lot safer than the real world.

thanks for the irony, dumbass.

 

[londonfog]

uh oh, looks like im about to be labeled racist. gotta learn to tip toe around you sensitive types.

Never called you racist. Only commented on the remark you made about this case being a hate crime. If you have any evidence that these punks killed due to the race of this innocent man please share. If not you are only adding confusion to an already evil deed.

 

[desert dude]

I think you want this to be about race...when it is not. People like yourself only creates confusion for all who actually want to get along and find a way to live with each other.

LF, you are not entitled to make this sort of accusation after your performance in the "Trayvon" thread.

It's too early to conclude whether there was no racial motivation in this case. Early indications seem to indicate that at least one of the three was motivated by racism.

 

[UncleBuck]

a black kid, a white kid, and a biracial kid kill a white man.

HATE CRIME!

a white person kills a black person.

HATE CRIMES ARE STUPID AND SHOULDN'T EXIST AND THEY'RE STUPID AND RACISM DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

 

[desert dude]

a black kid, a white kid, and a biracial kid kill a white man.

HATE CRIME!

a white person kills a black person.

HATE CRIMES ARE STUPID AND SHOULDN'T EXIST AND THEY'RE STUPID AND RACISM DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.

Making "hatred" a crime is stupid. I am glad you have seen the light, Buck. Now tell your nut-hangers on RIU it is safe for them to see the light as well.

 

[AlabamaRedneck]

I do like some of the comments you make but i'm also repulsed by some of them too... Case in point;



C'mon man the above is just uncalled for... If an American was to meet a similar fate here I can guarantee you NO comments like the above would be made...

I don't understand what it is you're taking issue with; an Aussie in the US following his dreams where Baseball is a national pastime and if you wanna play the majors you wanna play in the US or a foreigner jogging in a suburban American neighbourhood that got in the way of some bullets ? (like who the fuck said he could jog here?)

Yeah, OK...I make dumb comments sometimes...I get drunk and high sometimes...and act stupid accordingly...

Have you never made a post at night that you regretted the next morning?...I sure have...Can't we all just get along?

 

[UncleBuck]

Making "hatred" a crime is stupid.

unless, of course, the victim is white and at least one of the assailants is black. then you're all for them, for obvious reasons.

see my sig.

 

[londonfog]

LF, you are not entitled to make this sort of accusation after your performance in the "Trayvon" thread.

It's too early to conclude whether there was no racial motivation in this case. Early indications seem to indicate that at least one of the three was motivated by racism.

You smoking some stuff that's making you forget. I never said Zimmerman guilty of a hate crime. I always said it was more of a manslaughter ( and still do). Again do YOU have any proof that this was a hate crime??? You do realize that you have written some negative things ( whether in joke or for real ) on this site about other races. You have even liked negative comments about other races. From your logic, I would suggest that you don't fight, hurt or kill anyone from another race...HATE CRIME will be added to your charges.

 

[desert dude]

unless, of course, the victim is white and at least one of the assailants is black. then you're all for them, for obvious reasons.

see my sig.

No, I am not for criminalizing thoughts. Take El Tib, for example, he is a truly hateful person and blatantly racist. If his "crime" is only spewing racist non-sense on RIU then I have no legal beef with him. If he acts on his insane ideas and assaults or murders somebody then prosecute him for his violent crime.

In this case, a man was murdered and from the facts I have seen it looks like a premeditated murder. What motivated these boys should be of no concern beyond murder 1.

Pointing out the hypocrisy of the media does not mean that I endorse thought crimes.

 

[londonfog]

No, I am not for criminalizing thoughts. Take El Tib, for example, he is a truly hateful person and blatantly racist. If his "crime" is only spewing racist non-sense on RIU then I have no legal beef with him. If he acts on his insane ideas and assaults or murders somebody then prosecute him for his violent crime.

In this case, a man was murdered and from the facts I have seen it looks like a premeditated murder. What motivated these boys should be of no concern beyond murder 1.

Pointing out the hypocrisy of the media does not mean that I endorse thought crimes.

do tell the facts that this was premeditated. Please inform us of the conversation or the plans that was made.

 

[desert dude]

You smoking some stuff that's making you forget. I never said Zimmerman guilty of a hate crime. I always said it was more of a manslaughter ( and still do). Again do YOU have any proof that this was a hate crime??? You do realize that you have written some negative things ( whether in joke or for real ) on this site about other races. You have even liked negative comments about other races. From your logic, I would suggest that you don't fight, hurt or kill anyone from another race...HATE CRIME will be added to your charges.

You weren't gleeful when the feds investigated Zim for hate crimes? You didn't jump on the "fucking coons" bandwagon? You didn't harp about Zim "profiling" Martin? You were as disgusted as the rest of the rational world at the performance of the US media in sensationalizing the Zimmerman case as cold blooded, race motivated murder, right?

I am not about to go back and reread the Trayvon thread, so I will take your word for it.

In your defense, a lot of otherwise sane people completely lost their connection with reality over the Zimmerman case. Maybe you were just temporarily insane.

 

[desert dude]

do tell the facts that this was premeditated. Please inform us of the conversation or the plans that was made.

The only thing I have to go on is the statement made by one of the kids, "we were bored so we decided to kill somebody". That is a very poor reason for murder, but it is premeditated.

 

[londonfog]

You weren't gleeful when the feds investigated Zim for hate crimes? You didn't jump on the "fucking coons" bandwagon? You didn't harp about Zim "profiling" Martin? You were as disgusted as the rest of the rational world at the performance of the US media in sensationalizing the Zimmerman case as cold blooded, race motivated murder, right?

I am not about to go back and reread the Trayvon thread, so I will take your word for it.

In your defense, a lot of otherwise sane people completely lost their connection with reality over the Zimmerman case. Maybe you were just temporarily insane.

I still feel Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. I also still feel Casey Anthony was guilty of her child's death. Both walked in the state of Florida.

 

[londonfog]

The only thing I have to go on is the statement made by one of the kids, "we were bored so we decided to kill somebody". That is a very poor reason for murder, but it is premeditated.

Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully causing the death of another person after rationally considering the timing or method of doing so, in order to either increase the likelihood of success, or to evade detection or apprehension.
Just saying "I'm bored so lets kill" is not considering as such. That is not premeditated...although it is evil and stupid. Please let us just stick to facts without adding any new drama.

 

[desert dude]

I still feel Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter. I also still feel Casey Anthony was guilty of her child's death. Both walked in the state of Florida.

I don't want to argue the Zimmerman case any more. I don't see how you can think Z is guilty of manslaughter, and just leave it at that.

I am only vaguely familiar with the Casey Anthony trial, but I recently watched a "Nova" (I think it was Nova) episode on PBS about forensic "science". Based on that, I have thrown in the towel on most forensic science; I think it is almost entirely hokum. One of the examples the show used was testimony by an "expert on human corpses" in the Anthony prosecution. The guy testified that he smelled the trunk of Anthony's car and determined that the scent was that of a dead human body... not a decaying piece of chicken, or a dead mouse... a dead human. I have to say that if I was on that jury I would have rolled my eyes and been very skeptical of everything else the prosecution said.

 

[desert dude]

Premeditated murder is the crime of wrongfully causing the death of another person after rationally considering the timing or method of doing so, in order to either increase the likelihood of success, or to evade detection or apprehension.
Just saying "I'm bored so lets kill" is not considering as such. That is not premeditated...although it is evil and stupid. Please let us just stick to facts without adding any new drama.

"Man, I am bored to death, we need to liven things up around here. Jimmy, get your gun and make sure it is loaded. Let's take a ride and kill somebody."

Like it or not, that is a plan that shows premeditation. Yes, it is evil and stupid as well.

I doubt I would give these dumb kids the death penalty for it, but my sympathies end there.