does water ph need to be adjusted when growing in soil

cannabisgreen

New Member
question do i really need to adjust the ph of my water when growing in soil my water ph is 7.7 i have been adjusting my ph water to 6.5 and seem to be running into calmag deficiencies even on the babys so does soil have a buffer to self adjust its ph should i not worry about PHing everything i add 2 my soil i grow with organics iguana juice i started in hydro im new to soil please guide me the proper ways soil pros thanks
 

blackrecluse

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The peat moss is a ph of 5.
the tap water is a ph of 7.
the root zone will land on 6.

I really messed it up when I forced my tap water down to 6.5.
usually a full strength nute will bump it down too.
I believe the more peat you have and the more acid your nute the less you can expect to yield.

In my experience. Low ph = cant sleep at night.
 

blackrecluse

Active Member
what ever you do, dont drop a cup of lime onto the top of them. All I have to say if fuck ph. Kinda why I switched to organics. Sounded promising. We will see.
 

cannabisgreen

New Member
yeah thanks Black im seeing problems on all sight cal an mag defs one has a bad lockout yellow leafs and slowed growth on all of them cause i phed my plain water everytime im believing now two man my soil ph is 5.5-6.5 says it on label and i mix my soil with light warrior soil 50/50 was thinking of doing a mini flush with a light feed of iguana and organic rootjuice not phing!! the mix I hope that turns the them around so I can feel better not racking my brain anyone else out there run into the same problems phing plain water 4 the plants that care 2 chime in
 

Jimdamick

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PH is one the major causes of plant problems. What ever it takes, you must maintain at a max of 6.5 in soil in my opinion, 6.2 is a sweet spot. If not problems will occur like your def in cal/mag problem, which probably is just PH. If it a relatively young plant it should not be calcium or magnesium deficient. Test the run off of you soil, I'll bet it is wacked.
 

drolove

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learn to pre lime your soil mix according to the directions on the bag of lime and you'll never have to worry about PH.
 

Southerner

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what ever you do, dont drop a cup of lime onto the top of them. All I have to say if fuck ph. Kinda why I switched to organics. Sounded promising. We will see.
I switched to an organic Super Soil setup and haven't looked back. I don't use my pH pen at all anymore and its the greatest thing ever. My plants looks great and all I do is water as needed and let the soil take care of the rest (I do use dolomite lime in my mix). If you are hydroponics than pH adjusting makes all the sense in the world, if you are soil/organic than your microbes take care of all that for you.
 

Someacdude

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I switched to an organic Super Soil setup and haven't looked back. I don't use my pH pen at all anymore and its the greatest thing ever. My plants looks great and all I do is water as needed and let the soil take care of the rest (I do use dolomite lime in my mix). If you are hydroponics than pH adjusting makes all the sense in the world, if you are soil/organic than your microbes take care of all that for you.
How long ago did you switch and is it really that much better product?
Im doing my first grow in super soil so im really interested.
 

Southerner

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Well, my first grow I used Roots soil and the Roots bottled nute feeding schedule. I also ph'd the feedings to 6.5 everytime using General Hydro's pH products. If you have been reading enough than you know just from those two sentences I was doing a lot wrong. Basically, the harsh acids used to make pH up and down will KILL your "Microherd". These microherd are the key to breaking down organic matter(guano, etc) and converting them into a form that the plant can absorb. If I had known better I should have just used the roots products as the plants asked for them as opposed to some arbitrary schedule on a website and done so without using the ph up and down(i was using a lot too because Roots nutes will drop the pH wayy down of a feeding).

I am positive you can use the Roots bottled nutes very successfully with this understanding as well as an education on what each of those products actually does for them plant. I was the noob there and so I made noob mistakes. Every plant I had would get about 3-4 weeks into flower and then just turn to absolute shit. It's fine for leaves to yellow towards the end of flowering, but this was obviously something I was doing wrong and I knew that while I was still producing pretty decent flowers, I wasn't letting the plant reach its full potential and also severely hurting my possible yield.

I read some books(Teaming With Microbes) and got a much better understanding of what was going on below the surface of the soil. I knew I had to try something different so I took the Super Soil method. When I first started growing, I felt like the more products/snake oil I gave my plant-- the better off it would be. I wanted to spoil the plants but was really just giving them a bunch of shit they didin't need and weren't even asking for. Super soil makes everything"available" and your plant will take what it needs, as it needs it. The super soil "philosophy" is that the less you have to do to the plant, the better.

My first super soil run has just hit week 4 of flowering and the plants are absolutely flourishing. All the leaves are still green and the plants themselves are stronger. I am running a couple of the same strains as my first grow, so the difference is easily measurable for me. I'm not saying super soil is the only way to go, but if you aren't doing hydroponics than you are really missing out on the true benefits of a soil grow by messing around with bottled ferts and ph levels, IMHO.
 
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