Magnetic or digital, RF interference, etc. Pro's and Con's...

TheSnake

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Do magnetic's make the same RF that these digital's do? I turned my am radio station on, plugged in digital and my radio almost grew legs , said "fuck this" and walked away. Horrible RF, no wonder so many have issues with cable companies. (myself included)

For obvious reasons, I'll assume all digital's have this issue, some more so than others (after my research even more expensive brands like llumatek, etc) still have issues , so how can all the pro digital people actually sit there recommending this when they know the likelyhood of your grow light fucking with yours, and other people electronics, etc. Not to mention well beyond FCC regulations.

Maybe if your grow was on a farm, with no cable, no nothing... just power, lights, mp3 players and recorded pornos. So basically it was tend to plants, eat, jerk off for 4-5 months every harvest, miles away from everyone else, I could see it not being an issue... But seriously?

Has anyone had Jim Carey knocking on the door, while using magnetic ballasts? Has any magnetic folk tried the radio to see if there was leakage, and how bad, if these even create the same stuff that the digital's do?
 

qwizoking

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Well I don't think most people have rf issues...I dont , I've also checked am stations but I play the radio for em constantly....I have Apollo , you have ipower right, I thought you said it was the TV connection or something

Anyway I don't know much about em, magnetic doesn't interfere but they do get pretty hot
 

justugh

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no contest

digital ballast is the better of the 2 ............due to the fact it cycles the power quicker so the light bulb gets more of the power that it was designed to have

here is a copy of something i used to make my choice on the buy

What is the Difference Between Digital & Magnetic Ballasts?

Magnetic ballasts consist of one or more aluminum or copper coils that sit on a core that is made up of steel laminations. A transformer works in conjunction with a capacitor, and sometimes an igniter. These three parts are most often built into the ballast casing. Digital ballasts are a type of electrical ballast that regulates the amount of electric current in a device. These types of ballasts use microprocessors to control the electric current so it can be regulated through the use of firmware installed in the microprocessor.
There are many advantages that digital ballasts have over their magnetic counterparts. They are more efficient, quieter, cooler, and softer on the bulb than magnetic ballasts. Digital ballasts also weigh less, which is an important consideration in a greenhouse setting. Because of the more consistent application of electrical current, lamps also last longer and function at a higher level with a digital ballast, and produce a more consistent. Magnetic ballasts, especially as they age, become noisier when they operate, cause the HID lamps to flicker and also contribute to irregularities in the color that the lamp gives off. The digital units can also sense when the lamp is almost used up, and can shut the unit off when it is not functioning optimally.
 

TheSnake

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Well I don't think most people have rf issues...I dont , I've also checked am stations but I play the radio for em constantly....I have Apollo , you have ipower right, I thought you said it was the TV connection or something

Anyway I don't know much about em, magnetic doesn't interfere but they do get pretty hot
I did say that... But in this brain of mine, I'm thinking if they have any clue, or where up to no good, they would of course tell me it was the tv, just so i keep doing what i was doing, only later to get caught. Lol, So as always, precautions.
 

TheSnake

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If they smelt fish, they did a good job of keeping a very smooth demeanor, as did I... Maybe that was really the problem, but if your parachute had two possible problems, would you not want to be 100% sure that BOTH were fixed? lol
 

justugh

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given the amount of crap in the air (electro singals wifi cell wireless) there is going to be some cross over bleeding and messing with ................given ppl do not replace the products they buy every year for the new ........we all have some old tech in the house that is not sheilded correctly and there for can cuase issuse ..............wireless phones picking up other ppls phones and baby montiors

but u can limit this by placements and forthought about wire/path lay outs and getting the extra sheilded system like the new Cat 6 cables Triple sheild compared to the one in cat 5


and everything u plug and has engery run tho it cuases a small feild to be around when the power is active (this is why bugs head to them besides the warmth factor)


if u got the money and want to spend the time there are several products on the market as in film on the windows and speicalized paints that block and reduce the distance the it travels ...............but the most effect method is placement and spacing
 

TheSnake

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given the amount of crap in the air (electro singals wifi cell wireless) there is going to be some cross over bleeding and messing with ................given ppl do not replace the products they buy every year for the new ........we all have some old tech in the house that is not sheilded correctly and there for can cuase issuse ..............wireless phones picking up other ppls phones and baby montiors

but u can limit this by placements and forthought about wire/path lay outs and getting the extra sheilded system like the new Cat 6 cables Triple sheild compared to the one in cat 5


and everything u plug and has engery run tho it cuases a small feild to be around when the power is active (this is why bugs head to them besides the warmth factor)


if u got the money and want to spend the time there are several products on the market as in film on the windows and speicalized paints that block and reduce the distance the it travels ...............but the most effect method is placement and spacing
I know your pro digital, but will switching to a magnetic fix this issue? I tested with the AM radio, and when i cut my ipower on the station that was clear as day, like 8 feet away instantly frizzled to absolute shit! I tested cfl's and well... about 500 watts of them running at the same time, and had to put the radio about 2 inches away from the running bulbs to frizzle out the radio... 4-5 inches from them it was clear as day.
 

justugh

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there u go

u tested with magnetic and u did with digital (cfl has a convert in the little part under the spiral ) ...............the magnetic feild will always be bigger then the digital (to sheild it would cost them alot more so effective kill the market for them )

as for fix the issuse ...............i am 80% sure it will u get with in 3 feet fuzzy after that clear .............if u order from someplace like amazon they have a 30 day return so u could get it test it and if it does keep it.........if it does not send it back

i done some checking aslong as the plug fits into the digital u can use the same hood and light (they do sell adapters too)
 

immaculus

Member
This video breaks down the reason why digital ballast give off so much rfi.

I'm saving up for a square wave Badass Ballast.

[video=youtube_share;afcRNgo_cU8]http://youtu.be/afcRNgo_cU8[/video]
 
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