Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[Trousers]

still waiting for those 128 studies . . ..

You should have a nice, hot cup of bleach while you are waiting.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Trousers, you keep telling us that GMO food is "safe". You're missing the point. You can cite a million studies to the same effect, and it won't change a thing.

People should know what they are eating! Flour is "safe", but yet on the back of every product that contains flour it's listed as an ingredient. What is so different about genetically modified products?

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

oh ok. .so the general consensus is . . do what your told . . . and obey any law no matter what . .got it . . .

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

how many of you own stock in bio tech firms?

 

[st0wandgrow]

if you suddenly declared "Soft Winter" to be an forbidden cultivar of wheat, for whatever crazy ass reason you came up with, would flour millers, bakers, food processors and shops fell any burning need to acquiesce to your demands that "Soft Winter" wheat be removed from all their products, or labeled with big red warning stickers?

FUCK NO!

your "common sense" demand for labeling is a shabby attempt to create an illusion of danger, despite all the evidence that the danger is entirely in your mind.

your local community almost certainly dumps sodium fluoride in your water, and despite this product being PROVED dangerous, and despite the fact sodium fluoride MUST BE LABELED during shipping with cute little warnings like POISON, Inhalation Hazard, Explosion Hazard...

http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927595

but saying "fluoridation is bad" means im crazy and a Bircher.

if im crazy for wanting sodium fluoride left out of my water, how motherfucking crazy do you have to be to demand that particular cultivars of corn be removed from your Doritos?[/QUOTE/


You miss the point as well. I'm not here arguing whether or not GMO foods are "safe". I don't give a fuck what your thoughts, or any one else's are on the foods safety. I'm simply saying that consumers should be aware of exactly what it is that they are ingesting. Period. Then THEY can make a decision whether to buy it or not.

To take issue with that is breathtakingly stupid. Do you make a habit out of dumping random things down your throat without knowing what the fuck it is that you're eating?

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

No. It's to stop freaking out over something that's not there. To stop telling people lies and giving them misinformation.

 

[Trousers]

Trousers, you keep telling us that GMO food is "safe". You're missing the point. You can cite a million studies to the same effect, and it won't change a thing.

Can you cite one (1) study that says they are unsafe?

People should know what they are eating!

So we should label carrots as potentially unhealthy? Too much water can kill you. should we label drinking water?
You obviously do not understand why we label stuff. you should investigate that. There is a link on this page.

Flour is "safe",

You sure about that? Flour can cause huge problems if inhaled. It is highly flammable and explodes all the time. Yuo can see it on youtube.

but yet on the back of every product that contains flour it's listed as an ingredient. What is so different about genetically modified products?

If the flour is made from genetically engineered wheat, then you label it as "flour" because that is what it is.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

how many of you own stock in bio tech firms?

I own ZERO stock in any firm of any kind. I can just read and interpret scientific studies.

 

[st0wandgrow]

"

• your local community almost certainly dumps sodium fluoride in your water, and despite this product being PROVED dangerous, and despite the fact sodium fluoride MUST BE LABELED during shipping with cute little warnings like POISON, Inhalation Hazard, Explosion Hazard..."
  
  
  And guess what, water reports are provided to me yearly, telling the levels of dissolved solids in my water. I read it, and chose to buy a RO unit. Problem solved! The same thing should apply to the food that I eat. If think GMO products are safe, then I will buy them. If I don't, then I won't buy them. But I should be made aware of it via labeling.​
  
  
  
  

 

[Trousers]

You miss the point as well. I'm not here arguing whether or not GMO foods are "safe". I don't give a fuck what your thoughts, or any one else's are on the foods safety. I'm simply saying that consumers should be aware of exactly what it is that they are ingesting. Period. Then THEY can make a decision whether to buy it or not.

Check out the guidelines for labeling food. If you do not have a problem with GMO, then you are in the wrong thread. You should start a thread about changing the way the government mandates food labeling (to include crazy fantasies).

To take issue with that is breathtakingly stupid.

Really? If you want this to devolve to name calling, I'll kick your butt at that as well.

Do you make a habit out of dumping random things down your throat without knowing what the fuck it is that you're eating?

Do you make a habit of blabbering about nothing?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Trousers, you keep telling us that GMO food is "safe". You're missing the point. You can cite a million studies to the same effect, and it won't change a thing.

People should know what they are eating! Flour is "safe", but yet on the back of every product that contains flour it's listed as an ingredient. What is so different about genetically modified products?

"flour is safe"

you probably think flour is made by grinding a big pile of wheat into a fine powder.

do you know whats in flour? all the constituents, not just the wheat from multiple different cultivars?

plain old all purpose flour like mommy used to bake with, is made form NOT JUST WHEAT, but also barley, talc, iron sulfate, ground up animal bones and potassium sulfate.

whaaaaaaaaat? ground up animal bones?

yep. ground up animal bones.

there is no such thing as "vegetarian".

"vegan" is just a self-delusion.

you can NEVER know whats in anything you eat unless you have it analyzed in a lab.

perhaps they should label everything found in a hot dog too.

if you want to eat natural holistic Hourk 'n' Fiber Chunks, move to an amish community or retreat to the woods and start writing your manifesto. the rest of us arent interested in your demands.

 

[Trousers]

• 
  And guess what, water reports are provided to me yearly, telling the levels of dissolved solids in my water. I read it, and chose to buy a RO unit. Problem solved! The same thing should apply to the food that I eat. If think GMO products are safe, then I will buy them. If I don't, then I won't buy them. But I should be made aware of it via labeling.
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Buy organic and shop at Whole Foods. They are fully behind the GMO hysteria and will be happy to sell you non-GMO foods at an inflated price, of course.

Problem solved!

 

[Trousers]

how many of you own stock in bio tech firms?

How many of you actively use sophistry as a debate tactic?

 

[Dr Kynes]

"

• your local community almost certainly dumps sodium fluoride in your water, and despite this product being PROVED dangerous, and despite the fact sodium fluoride MUST BE LABELED during shipping with cute little warnings like POISON, Inhalation Hazard, Explosion Hazard..."
  
  
  And guess what, water reports are provided to me yearly, telling the levels of dissolved solids in my water. I read it, and chose to buy a RO unit. Problem solved! The same thing should apply to the food that I eat. If think GMO products are safe, then I will buy them. If I don't, then I won't buy them. But I should be made aware of it via labeling.​
  
  

"dissolved solids" doesnt tell you shit about sodium fluoride levels, and your precious RO device will NOT remove all the sodium fluoride, or even all the arsenic.

the illusion of safety.

 

[st0wandgrow]

LOL!! Trousers, I'll type this really slow for you .....

I'm not taking a position on the "safety" of GMO products. They may be 100% safe, and healthy, and nutritious, and yummy, and make your pecker grow 2 inches over night. That is not my issue.

My issue is with them balking at informing the end user of exactly what it is they are ingesting. Put it on the label, and let individuals make up their own mind. Is that too much to ask for? What specifically do you take issue with concerning that? If you were to buy a used car, would you not want to know all about it? Would you not want to know that it had been totaled, and re-built 2 years ago ..... or would you just accept the used car salesman telling you that it's safe?

 

[st0wandgrow]

"dissolved solids" doesnt tell you shit about sodium fluoride levels, and your precious RO device will NOT remove all the sodium fluoride, or even all the arsenic.

the illusion of safety.

The water analysis does indeed tell you parts per billion of sodium fluoride, along with disolved solids, chloramine, etc

And I never said my RO unit removes all of it. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Does being a know-it-all on a pot forum help with your farm hand inferiority complex?

 

[Trousers]

LOL!! Trousers, I'll type this really slow for you .....

Listen boy. You are implying I do not understand what is going on. You do not understand why the labeling should not take place. It is because the current regulations do not require it. Go read why it is not required. If you do not like it, lobby your congressman.

I'm not taking a position on the "safety" of GMO products. They may be 100% safe, and healthy, and nutritious, and yummy, and make your pecker grow 2 inches over night. That is not my issue.

My issue is with them balking at informing the end user of exactly what it is they are ingesting.

Who is "them"?

Your uissue is with the government, your argument here is not relevant.

Put it on the label, and let individuals make up their own mind.

Lobby the government to change the regulations to force crazy stuff and stop whining about it here.

Is that too much to ask for?

Yes.
You have to change government regulations. How many times do I have to say it?

What specifically do you take issue with concerning that?

I take issue with you implying that I am dumb when you have no idea what is going on.

If you were to buy a used car, would you not want to know all about it? Would you not want to know that it had been totaled, and re-built 2 years ago ..... or would you just accept the used car salesman telling you that it's safe?

Some say cucumbers taste better pickled.

 

[Antidisestablishmentarian]

"

• your local community almost certainly dumps sodium fluoride in your water, and despite this product being PROVED dangerous, and despite the fact sodium fluoride MUST BE LABELED during shipping with cute little warnings like POISON, Inhalation Hazard, Explosion Hazard..."
  
  
  And guess what, water reports are provided to me yearly, telling the levels of dissolved solids in my water. I read it, and chose to buy a RO unit. Problem solved! The same thing should apply to the food that I eat. If think GMO products are safe, then I will buy them. If I don't, then I won't buy them. But I should be made aware of it via labeling.​
  
  

buy 100% organic labeled foods. Problem solved.

 

[Dr Kynes]

The water analysis does indeed tell you parts per billion of sodium fluoride, along with disolved solids, chloramine, etc

And I never said my RO unit removes all of it. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Does being a know-it-all on a pot forum help with your farm hand inferiority complex?

if in fact you receive a DETAILED ANALYSIS why did you claim it was just a report on "dissolved solids"

does making deceptive comments and pretending ignorance so you can later declare how awesome you are on a pot forum help you forget about your microphallus?

as usual you have decided to pretend that an analogy is beyond your comprehension, and seek to sidetrack the argument with picayune bitching over irrelevant details and pointless ad-hominems.

you want everything labeled, but you couldnt even label your RO water as free of contamination by your standards and you admit such, yet we still have to have more motherfucking labels to satisfy your petulant demands.

way to be a moron.

NOTHING is safe, and you know this, NOTHING is pure and you know this too, yet you persist inn demanding more and more pointless labels knowing full well that the only purpose those labels would serve is to create the illusion of hazard.

i guess we should assume that you have NO IDEA that your dumbass labels would be nothing but fearmongering, and would simply be translated in the minds of the moron populace from "GMO" to "POISON".

yeah, you clearly dont know anything about deception, and clearly have no idea that "labeling" is just a shortcut for the clowns who know they cant get a ban on GMO's based on SCIENCE.

so ill close out in a manner you can understand, whether you're playing dumb or pretending intelligence:

EAT A DICK.

 

[ChesusRice]

LOL!! Trousers, I'll type this really slow for you .....

I'm not taking a position on the "safety" of GMO products. They may be 100% safe, and healthy, and nutritious, and yummy, and make your pecker grow 2 inches over night. That is not my issue.

My issue is with them balking at informing the end user of exactly what it is they are ingesting. Put it on the label, and let individuals make up their own mind. Is that too much to ask for? What specifically do you take issue with concerning that? If you were to buy a used car, would you not want to know all about it? Would you not want to know that it had been totaled, and re-built 2 years ago ..... or would you just accept the used car salesman telling you that it's safe?

Sort of like forcing a woman to have an Ultrasound before she can get an abortion