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[Guzias1]

The colder the better, the warmer the material and ISO is, the more Chlorophyll you strip. I have done extractions with warm ISO and material and I noticed a slight change. More so my agitation time was shorter so it would be less"dirty" I would like others opinion on the matter too though.

im a firm believer that things need to be freaking colllllllllllllddddddddddd when extracting. whether it be ice, solvents, snow, yee.

now, im wondering, after we have done the rinse, and now we are at the evap process. (no chance of any new chlorophyll getting extracted)

does the warm alcohol hurt, strip our resin of goods? id think it would only remove aroma/terps.. does it do anything to hurt consistency though? testsss

 

[Thundercat]

Guz I want to clarify that crystally texture is only untill I mush it together. Then it is a nice clear taffy, or shatter at room temps. It does just like qwizo was saying and scrapes all over then I clean my dish.

I think the grainy texture comes form the lack of extra filtering. I got it one time when I forgot to do an extra filter, and have not had it again since. Lately I've been filtering the washed liquid through a 3 layer coffee filter in the freezer, then letting it sit in the freezer and filtering it again before I put it in my evap dish. Each time it looks notably cleaner so I think its working.

I agree about colder is better.

 

[WarMachine]

Very interesting about your guys results without heat, would you happen to have pics? What's your method of agitation thunder?

I usually do a metal strainer followed by one coffee filter strain. Im sure the more strains the clearer but you also lose a little oil I believe too. But then it's quality vs quantity.

how is the clean up for you guys? I like the slight heat because it makes it easier to collect with a razor blade.

 

[R00R420]

cold when extracting no matter what solvent. Heat if done right will not hinder or change any of the resin or the goods it will just speed up the process of evap/purge..but if done wrong or in other words too much heat you will than be ruining your material. It will turn to a darker color, loose flavor and some smell. Different temps will give you different consistencies along with other factors such as whipping and pressure.

 

[Thundercat]

War I I've got a bunch of pics of the stuff I've been working on in the last 3-4 pages of my journal. I generally prefer the quality over quantity, though I really don't think I loose more then maybe a couple hits when its all said and done by filtering extra. I also don't save my coffee filters and rewash them or any of that. I do save the alcohol I use to wash my dish after I scrape it, and will use that to do a reclaim on my rig soon then evap it for edibles.

My clean up goes pretty smooth I'd say. Like I said before its kinda crystally at room temp, I'm sure if I warmed it ,it would soften and scrape smooth. I've been doing it with out the heat though. If I scrape carefully it won't chip all over, and I can collect a nice pile of golden "oil crystals" which forms into a nice mass with the warmth of my fingers.

 

[WarMachine]

Very nice pics, I'm digging how red some of the oil came out! That just came from leaving it out in the sun?

 

[WarMachine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofn3qwVX3iE

qwISO to budder without a vac. I wanna try this.

 

[Thundercat]

Very nice pics, I'm digging how red some of the oil came out! That just came from leaving it out in the sun?

Lol ya the red batch was from about 6 hours of evaping in the sun with a silk screen over the dish. I lost direct sun after the 6 hours and finished evaping it in my usual method. It reminded me of red rock opium when I was scraping it cus it looked like red crystals. Then it gave me that beautiful red glass once I worked it together, full shatter at room temp. I don't think the sun method is a good thing nessecarly, as the light surely degrades some terpenes, but the flavor was similar to the other stuff made with the same material. I think potency I would have to have some tests done to see a difference, or maybe get a noob smoker to hit one today and another tomorrow and see what he liked more. I dab/smoke so much I can't usually tell potency beyond if its good enough for me to feel it at all or not .

 

[WarMachine]

I did a stem run of 35g at work and doing the evap outside.so far two hours and it's turning reddish.

 

[qwizoking]

Sun evap is an effective way to remove the green chlorophyll color and turn it red. Just remember your cannabinoids are many times more sensitive when in solution, light is the main enemy of cannabis. Heat isn't much of a factor in degrading your cannabinoids but it evaps and removes them. Light will break down thc ect but leave them...you may lose a quarter of your potency by doing this

 

[WarMachine]

Sun evap is an effective way to remove the green chlorophyll color and turn it red. Just remember your cannabinoids are many times more sensitive when in solution, light is the main enemy of cannabis. Heat isn't much of a factor in degrading your cannabinoids but it evaps and removes them. Light will break down thc ect but leave them...you may lose a quarter of your potency by doing this

Well damn that would suck to lose potency over a color.. I wonder if I should move it or just lett it be.. So basically thc is still there just not as strong as it would be.. Decisions decisions.. Why does the light (assuming the UV rays) break them down ?

 

[qwizoking]

Well uv-c actually if done before decarb will turn cbda into thc, reducing couch lock and adding thc making it more potent.. thc is incredibly sensitive light and mainly oxygen are what turn a ball of hash dark on the outside but not inside. Thc is extremely sensitive to light oxygen strong acids chlorine ect any oxidizer

Hope you don't mind a copy paste
The ultra-violet rays activate such bonds to form free radicals, which then react further with oxygen in the atmosphere, producing carbonyl groups in the main chain. The exposed surfaces of products may then discolour , although in bad cases, complete product disintegration can occur.

Polymers which possess UV-absorbing groups such as aromatic rings (thc and other cannabinoids/aromatic terpenes) may also be sensitive to UV degradation. Aramid fibres like Kevlar for example are highly UV sensitive and must be protected from the deleterious effects of sunlight......remember that thc is a phenol ... but its an aromatic mono terpene

 

[WarMachine]

Damn that's some interesting information thanks QW, I wonder if there is another way to obtain the color without the degrading the product.

 

[WarMachine]

Here are pics of today's run. This is the red oil stem run. I scraped it with no heat added but unfortunately I think the sunlight and heat from it being where it was caused it to heat up none the less so it was very easy to gather. It got a bit gooey for my liking so I think I will continue without the sunlight haha.

 

[Thundercat]

Definitely got some color to it .

FYI I only did the run in the sun as an experiment/ I wanted to evap some 2nd wash solution and needed more space.

I did a bud wash of some of my Cindy 99 today. The first wash is evaping now, should be done in the morning. Then I'll evap the second tomorrow. I'm gonna post a step by step of the process I used and the out come. Its not gonna be a high yeild run, I only used 10g of bud but from the looks of the solution I think its gonna be some very nice errrl.

Peace guys see ya tomorrow

 

[WarMachine]

Haha thanks Thunder. Yup I feel ya, I too did this as an experiment and I only used stems so nothing to fancy. I still haven't tasted it, thought I would wait until the morning as the "first smoke of the day" type of thing.

Nice Thundercat, can't wait for your results. It'll be nice to see how it comes out especially since you'll be adding step by step processing. I still need to try that budder whipping method.

 

[Thundercat]

I should have it up in a few hours, I just finished working with it, and took the first hit . It tastes just like the Cindy it came off, and I only ran 10 grams, but managed to get 1g of errl from just the first wash evap, I still have another evap going right now .

 

[Guzias1]

10 % first wash noiceee. hey guys. about how much liquid are you using per weight? im going to be doing these little experiments here.

challenging iso 99 vs everclear.

using half oz of little buds per wash, (all material is same bud/harvest) with natural evap, till i get a goo

and for another test, I will be running a quarter oz of the material, and washing it with ISO. i will then try to speed up the evap process with heat, and vacuum. then comparing all results at the end.

good tings ahead. hopefully have results in by early next week, ask !

 

[qwizoking]

Sounds good man, hey what strain is that your gonna be running?

 

[Guzias1]

Sounds good man, hey what strain is that your gonna be running?

wish i knew! but these lovely ladies came from a 6 yr old batch of un-named seeds from a friend.

i sprouted 7/8. flowered a about 4 of them.. all females! and well, no names yet.

great genetics though, easy feed, grows fast, flowers fast, very hairy, smells of dank! :]

these are the first/only seeds i ever ran, very fun time. ive only smoked the buds of this plant, cant wait to taste the extract :]

i also harvested this just 6 weeks into flower, so we shall see how this plays out. altogether 1.25 ounces in. would like to see 7+ grams back :]

sorry, no name