watering 1000 times asked, sorry

[lax123]

Thx for the information.

magnesium shows as yellowing between the veins on the lower leaves

-Thats the reason of asking here in the first place.
The plant looked good/ok but the bottom leaves looked like this in the picture, they started to getting yellowish. Then i got the firestorm advice instead. At that point I thought i had a bit of overwatering and N- def.
From the picture, u would say mg def too?

Ill get that mg asap.

In sticky they write about mg "This is pretty easy to notice, green veins but fully yellow leaves."

Id say in the picture its the other way around, yellow veins?

 

[qwizoking]

In pic 1 in the right corner is a clear mg deficiency as well as pic 3.
The yellowing in that bottom leaf is from ph issues/swings or excess moisture causing the ph issues. If you added nutes suddenly that could have been it or over watering etc. To me it looks like your doing bout perfect nute wise, they aren't deficient in n, a few are pushing having too much. Too much n causes dark green leaves and the tips to turn downwards alot will cause clawing and wrinkling/bubbling of the leaves....

Let your plant acclimate to the new light levels, make sure during the heat of the day you stay under 28 Celsius. And keep your nutes up watering how you have been and it should be alright soon. Don't over think it, most new growers "drown" them in love trying to help. Just let it do its thing and foliar feed 1/8 tsp Epson per pint

 

[lax123]

well what else can i say but thank you very much
My RL "mj friend" actually told me too "STFU, dont get scared because of some brown spots or leaves dying, sometimes they just do that"

Most new growers "drown" them in love trying to help

So im like transplanting, watering, lowering lights, misting, increasing lights, changing room temps all at the same time..hard to stop that lol. And the stupid tomato is healthy, because i didnt care about her at all.

 

[lax123]

Hi, how about using gas free Mineral water, mine contains like 5mg/L mg, could that be wise?

 

[qwizoking]

I've never used it so can't give you a certain answer.. but generally you want the lowest possible ppm/ec in your water, a quick Google search lists mineral water, eu and u.s. consider it water over 250ppm from an underground source with nothing added... so you can use it, your plants may love it. But as you don't really know what's in it, I would stick with a "softer" source and add minerals if need be. tap water is usually perfect chlorine is a micro nute .. I don't know the ph of mineral water.. but weed likes to be about 6.8 ph in soil. Distilled water starts off neutral ph7 but in contact with air it pulls co2 ions and drops to as low as 5 (can be brought back to 7 by boiling and releasing the gases) ......

Spring water or tap is your best water source.. but many people prefer ro or distilled and just ad calmag

 

[VTMi'kmaq]

well what else can i say but thank you very much
My RL "mj friend" actually told me too "STFU, dont get scared because of some brown spots or leaves dying, sometimes they just do that" So im like transplanting, watering, lowering lights, misting, increasing lights, changing room temps all at the same time..hard to stop that lol. And the stupid tomato is healthy, because i didnt care about her at all.

yeah advice from said rl friend should be taken with grains of salt meh thinks.

 

[lax123]

What makes u think that? Isnt that sometimes just normal that a bottom leaf is dying even though everyting is ok?

 

[qwizoking]

Nothing should ever die or fall unless your in flower..though sometimes leaves that don't get any light will deem themselves not worthy and fall off

 

[lax123]

Good to know lol. -When i started them in poor sunlight, is it possible they developed some "shadow leaves" that now fall off because there is plenty of light? I saw that on a small tomato Happening. Also i got me now some mg sulfate and sprayed them with 2% solution and i transplanted the 2nd biggest the one with the very Long stem in a bigger pot too. Now its time to wait and see what happens.

 

[lax123]

Hi, Little update. How is it looking? Should i spray mg again? 2 Transplanted still droopy after 2 days . And is it too bright in green in the middle, also the biggest is also quite bright (different strain than the other 2) I added more Perlite. The pots where filled to the top, but i kinda was scared the roots could not "breath" after transplant watering because they were still droopy the next day, so i removed the soil.

 

[qwizoking]

You gotta get your watering under control man, it looks real erratic in pic 1 specifically a pot on the right and far left,. The lighter growth looks pretty good its still a bit mag defficient, are you putting some in the water or just spraying? Either way add a bit.. the darker green leaves that are curling is too much n , the lighter green is healthier growth..

try and get some more light or put em closer, and keep temps slightly higher than normal bout 80 degrees..water thoroughly all the way down and then wait for it to dry completely, you can mist the top dirt to keep it from getting to dry. This helps roots develop. You can also add some peroxide if you aren't already
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. Overall I think they look pretty good. Keep that healthier growth going and get the roots healthy. They'll be fine, it may take a week or so to get moving but it'll happen. I have faith

 

[qwizoking]

The lighter colored growth though has me wondering...
How much are you feeding them, you eased up or the perlite reduced the concentration in the soil? If so your gonna have to rework your nute regimen so you don't continue to overfeed or mess with ph..

 

[lax123]

thanks man! really thanks a lot.
I took the Picture right after i watered the right plant a bit. Since those two there almost look alike i wanted to see what happens and compare, since im not totally sure if over or underwatered. But today they even look equally slightly worse
Just for the record, because im not english: they look overwatered those two, right?

....transplanted them, then watered thouroughly, so that water drips out at bottom as i read 100 times. I even added much more Perlite.
I just want to get it right.
Transplant was 3 days ago and the one in the back, has not been watered since and still is so droopy, soil is kinda quite dry id actually say..
I mean i dont get it what im doing wrong

I already increased temp a bit since i thought it was overwatering and wanted it to dry faster - by increasing the light intensity, so i guess two birds with one stone. When they r overwatered already, mg via water now is a no go i guess.
I just sprayed them once, with 2% mg solution. How often should i do it?
And spraying...argz lights r off when im at work (less dangerous), so spraying them with lights on and lense effects of water drops or something, it also could be wrong i guess.

Edit: i have not fed them anything yet. Just fresh soil with about 50% perlite, 40% universal gardening soil (vegs growing great) and 10% homemade compost is in the pots.
If its too much N, i dont get why everything else in that soil is growing great from seed in that in my garden.
If you could see the full picture... freaking cherry tomato laughing at the weeds makes me sad

Dont laught, i actually blew air in the bottom hole of the pots because i thought it might help airinating the roots.
Peroxide is used for that reason and to help the bacteria, right? Is that a "must have" standard equipment? Then ill order some right away.

100th edit: is it also ok for u if i pm u as i just did?
101: picture right before transplant

 

[qwizoking]

In no particular order..... weed is notorious for surviving incredible conditions, because of this it has adapted to preferring light nutes and a dry environment. Typical gardening soils can often be too hot. I suspect its starting run out of nutes and with perlite to help cut it. Causing healthier growth.if it continues but bottom leaves start to yellow you should a 1/4 tso oer gallon or so of fertilizer..I would pop some more seeds in your new dirt perlite mix and water nicely as well as recovering these..after over watering its easy to start under watering, now don't do that but I still suspect over watering, they can handle dry conditions much better than damp. If you notice the healthier new growth appears to be sticking out nicely, your just gonna have to keep that going, damaged leaves often don't recover or completely..you can mist mg as often as you like, make sure its dry between each spray for good absorption. I probly wouldn't do it more than 4 times a day, with lights off preferably. But backing off the lights a good bit will work...peroxide is extremely helpful just think of it as water (h2o) with an extra o (h2o3) because of this its an effective oxidizer, bleaching killing bacteria ect but in small quantities bout a tbsp per gallon can help kill algea that likes to develop on perlite and give oxygen to the roots....well I think that's everything

 

[lax123]

much appreciated