The worst law ever passed?

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ChesusRice

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LIBERTYCHICKEN said:
Polls are inacurate in the first place espicaly polls like you have listed , Yes most support healthcare reform either some support private , some support obuma care , some support other systems


Tell me one thing the US goberment put their hand on that did not turn to shit
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If the goverment is so bad.
What country would you rather live in?
 
kinddiesel

kinddiesel

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have to comment on Obama care. for us middle and lower class, any insurance is a lot better then nothing, butttttttttttttttt, the insurance will not be good, example, if you have a heart attack., they stabilize you and send you home. problem still there you will have another very soon. so its bull shit insurance, only thing its good for is prescription refills or flu . walk in get meds. for any real health care, its gona be total bs. and they will have to raise taxes to pay for it, so basically your better off buying a real policy on your own. what I do. what the usa needs to do is limit how much they can charge for a medical service. like how the fuck does it cost me a min of 50 to 150 dollars to see a doctor to get my prescription refilled approved by the doctor . or that amount to see you because your feeling sick flu. total bs. my opinion. only had to comment on the health care in usa.
 
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ChesusRice

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kinddiesel said:
have to comment on Obama care. for us middle and lower class, any insurance is a lot better then nothing, butttttttttttttttt, the insurance will not be good, example, if you have a heart attack., they stabilize you and send you home. problem still there you will have another very soon. so its bull shit insurance, only thing its good for is prescription refills or flu . walk in get meds. for any real health care, its gona be total bs. and they will have to raise taxes to pay for it, so basically your better off buying a real policy on your own. what I do. what the usa needs to do is limit how much they can charge for a medical service. like how the fuck does it cost me a min of 50 to 150 dollars to see a doctor to get my prescription refilled approved by the doctor . or that amount to see you because your feeling sick flu. total bs. my opinion. only had to comment on the health care in usa.
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You do not know anything about the law at all
 
Pepe le skunk

Pepe le skunk

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Wavels said:
The worst law ever passed?
I cannot think of any other legislation nearly as foolish and misbegotten.

ObamaCare may very well be the worst law ever passed by the federal government in the history of the U.S.
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Really? No other law? How do you rank cannabis prohibition?
Probably worse than healthcare imho.
The way it is now the insurance companies and their CEO's get rich from people denied claims? Or not covering pre exsisting conditions. They are your death panels and they don't have your intersts in mind. Being in ca-hoots with the drug manufactures to not look for cures but to string out the public on medication to sustain them as long as they are a paying customer. Don't kid yourself Wevils, there is not money in cures, only in sustaining people, hooking them on meds and draining their pocketbooks.

Back in the 1970's HMO's came out and the president at the time nixon I believe was told the real advantage to this new type of healthcare and the cliff hanger was that insurance companies denied customers certain procedures but kept the profits. Americans have already accepted the copay for insurance. If you want to be pissed about healthcare look at what the politions voted for themselfs and their healthcare. Now that is almost as bad as cannabis prohibition.
 
wheels619

wheels619

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Pepe le skunk said:
Really? No other law? How do you rank cannabis prohibition?
Probably worse than healthcare imho.
The way it is now the insurance companies and their CEO's get rich from people denied claims? Or not covering pre exsisting conditions. They are your death panels and they don't have your intersts in mind. Being in ca-hoots with the drug manufactures to not look for cures but to string out the public on medication to sustain them as long as they are a paying customer. Don't kid yourself Wevils, there is not money in cures, only in sustaining people, hooking them on meds and draining their pocketbooks.

Back in the 1970's HMO's came out and the president at the time nixon I believe was told the real advantage to this new type of healthcare and the cliff hanger was that insurance companies denied customers certain procedures but kept the profits. Americans have already accepted the copay for insurance. If you want to be pissed about healthcare look at what the politions voted for themselfs and their healthcare. Now that is almost as bad as cannabis prohibition.
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oh you mean where they exempted anyone in congress and a few other branches of government so they wouldnt have to pay the taxes or pay anything out of pocket like the rest of the country and thats also including their own privatized insurance and healthcare so they dont have to deal with the obamacare headaches themselves?
 
Pepe le skunk

Pepe le skunk

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wheels619 said:
oh you mean where they exempted anyone in congress and a few other branches of government so they wouldnt have to pay the taxes or pay anything out of pocket like the rest of the country and thats also including their own privatized insurance and healthcare so they dont have to deal with the obamacare headaches themselves?
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Actually they have free healthcare for life. No need to ever pay anything or buy any health insurance ever, even after they retire or get voted out because we the tax payer get to pay for it. That is why they wrote themselfs out of Obamacare.

Can you name 3 headaches of Obamacare? Or how they effect you? Did anyone explain obamacare to you and your coverage, benefits ect? Just wondering?
 
wheels619

wheels619

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Pepe le skunk said:
Actually they have free healthcare for life. No need to ever pay anything or buy any health insurance ever, even after they retire or get voted out because we the tax payer get to pay for it. That is why they wrote themselfs out of Obamacare.

Can you name 3 headaches of Obamacare? Or how they effect you? Did anyone explain obamacare to you and your coverage, benefits ect? Just wondering?
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yeah. they have. im a crippled ass in a wheelchair who is going to have a huge headache getting the care i need with the insurance provided. my private health insurance is raising all of my premiums and copays and denying a lot of my needed services to prepare for obamacare. not to mention once its actually in effect the doctors are going to be a pain in the ass to see. extended wait times due to a huge patient increase among a ton of other things.
 
wheels619

wheels619

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Pepe le skunk said:
Actually they have free healthcare for life. No need to ever pay anything or buy any health insurance ever, even after they retire or get voted out because we the tax payer get to pay for it. That is why they wrote themselfs out of Obamacare.

Can you name 3 headaches of Obamacare? Or how they effect you? Did anyone explain obamacare to you and your coverage, benefits ect? Just wondering?
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also my was that they screwed everyone but themselves and their families. which is why i said nevermind in the beginning becuz its an argument that is pretty much never ending.
 
wheels619

wheels619

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Antidisestablishmentarian said:
No. Congress pays premiums like normal people. They do not get free healthcare for life.

They also will begin getting their insurance from the exchange(yes the obamacare exchange) in 2014. At least according to the government websites I have visited.

Citation for congress paying for health insurance:

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/health-care-for-members-of-congress/
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i dont have time to read thru it right now but i skimmed for 5 seconds. seems legit but still dont trust the crafty bastards.
 
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