Potent natural buzzes(Kratom, skullcap...)

[Skuxx]

Nice! I'm glad you liked it! Yes I have tried kratom and kava mixed (more times than not lol)... it's a very nice mixture. You don't need as much of either substance. I'm kind of like you with kava... and keep eating scoops here and there until my stomach tells me no more. I don't think it's that addictive at all. Maybe about as much as weed can be. But it depends on the person I guess. Some people go fucking nuts if they can't play their daily Call of Duty. I've tried it at work, and it's kind of too sedating for me for work. I'd rather wait until I get off and then enjoy it more. It seems like if you're moving around working, you don't feel the effects as much.

 

[nicktater]

I have heard of people mixing kava and kratom. I just took kratom for my first time about 5 mins ago, did a full table spoon of powder in a cup of water, chased it down. It wasnt as bad as i expected, im feeling it. I was wondering if there is a certain way to do it to get the best results? Like maybe make a warm tea out of it? I feel energized but im not sure if it was because i took low dose or because im excited about doing it, or maybe its just creeping on me. Also dose suggestions?

 

[high|hgih]

Awesome How do you like kratom while working skuxx? I find it makes the day a lot easier. I'm going to keep eating this until work and bring a bag in to eat there and see how it goes for me. If it's negative then its my fault lol but yeah that's true, the COD epidemic..

nick, the best way IMO to take kratom is to buy some booze(higher % the better, whatever you can handle taking a shot of), then put 2 tbsp's of kratom into a cup. Pour alcohol into the kratom until there is a good amount covering the kratom(enough alcohol to drink in one gulp, not too much, not too little.). Then mix, let it sit if you want, it only takes like 15 seconds to suck everything up, but the longer you let it sit the more potent it will be.
Then take an old t-shirt, or a cheesecloth and strain the alcohol out of the kratom into a cup. You'll be left with a green filmed looking alcohol shot. Take that shot and wait 10 minutes. Cooked. :3

that's how I get the most out of kratom. 100%

 

[nicktater]

I don't think it's that addictive at all. Maybe about as much as weed can be. /QUOTE]

I used to smoke weed all day every day, non stop for years. And i quit cold turkey, i had a horrible time sleeping, If i did get to sleep i couldnt stay that way for more then 2 or 3 hours. It felt like i wasnt getting any good rest for like 2 or 3 weeks. I was also very irritated by every little thing. Im sure its nothing to any real addiction, but i think done for years like that it can be pretty addicting. Since then i have decided 4 week breaks, twice a year, would keep the tolerance down, saving money, and wouldnt be so addicting. Im on my 3rd week of my first break, after 5 months of smoking. No sleep problems this time. And i was only up to a bowl or two a day, atleast during the week. But yeah it was probably mostly a mental thing. Also had a loss of appetite for a short time. Any ways im rambling.
I am shocked at how hard this kratom hits. Great stuff, and legal. Going to see if i cant get my hands on a plant.

 

[nicktater]

nick, the best way IMO to take kratom is to buy some booze(higher % the better, whatever you can handle taking a shot of), then put 2 tbsp's of kratom into a cup. Pour alcohol into the kratom until there is a good amount covering the kratom(enough alcohol to drink in one gulp, not too much, not too little.). Then mix, let it sit if you want, it only takes like 15 seconds to suck everything up, but the longer you let it sit the more potent it will be.
Then take an old t-shirt, or a cheesecloth and strain the alcohol out of the kratom into a cup. You'll be left with a green filmed looking alcohol shot. Take that shot and wait 10 minutes. Cooked. :3

that's how I get the most out of kratom. 100%

Thank you, Sounds easy enough, i didnt strain any of the powder out, is that bad? I took basically 2 half table spoons, which both were prolly a little over half, mixed 2 diff kinds. Maeng da kratom and green vein thai kratom. Im feeling it pretty strong, I dont think im ready for 2 table spoons at once lol

 

[Skuxx]

kratom for work really helps make the day go by easier and quicker lol. The only thing I didn't like is when I took too much of a potent green vein strain, and I'd get the jitters for about an hour. Hands shaking etc. Eventually I started only using red vein strains. I've been taking a break from kratom for about 4 months now... but I'm about to get some more. It really wasn't a problem for me to quit at all. And I was doing anywhere from 30-50 grams a day.

 

[high|hgih]

Haha it doesnt matter which form the kratom is in when you ingest it.
Mixing two strains is always nice, I love mixing green raiu and red sumatra, or red thai. Always gives me a good punch in the face. I know what you mean about overdoing the kratom though, especially the green ones.. Ick!

I used kratom in probably the same amounts for some time, and I noticed when I ran out, it became increasingly difficult to get rid of social anxieties. That was the only downside. I just felt.. Off my game.

 

[nicktater]

Thanks for posting this btw, i dont think i would have actually got kratom if not. I had heard about it, but wasnt sure about it. Im happy with it though. Also thought about ordering some skullcap seeds. which i prolly will on my next order.

 

[high|hgih]

No problem man! Yeah Kratom is definitely very awesome. I've been taking Kratom all day and I'm about to guzzle some kava down I am interested in what this will do

If you wouldn't mind when you try skullcap, come back to this thread and say how you like it. I know there are three different species of it. But man I guess I should just read more.. Always comes down to that.
In going to experiemnt with as many herbs as I can and awhile from now ill post about all of them in here and how they work combined and what not.

 

[nicktater]

No problem man! Yeah Kratom is definitely very awesome. I've been taking Kratom all day and I'm about to guzzle some kava down I am interested in what this will do

If you wouldn't mind when you try skullcap, come back to this thread and say how you like it. I know there are three different species of it. But man I guess I should just read more.. Always comes down to that.
In going to experiemnt with as many herbs as I can and awhile from now ill post about all of them in here and how they work combined and what not.

Yeah it will probably be a while before i try it. I ordered seeds for the plant, so prolly no time soon lol. I also need to do some research on it, i havnt really done any research on it at all. Just heard you mention it, then saw it on horizonherbs.com. I just ordered like 200 seeds(not all the same thing). Future investments. Would love to find a kratom plant. Seeds cant be sold apparently, they are only good for a day or 2.

 

[high|hgih]

Everything I read about growin Kratom says that it is a very difficult task. I'm just hoping to god that they don't ban it.. If you can figure that one out then more power to you! Make sure and write an instructable haha I'm sure tons of folks on here would appreciate that.

Ill order a small amount of skullcap tonight and see how it works and tell you what to expect whenever I receive it
Did you ever dabble in hbwr seeds or morning glory?

 

[nicktater]

I have ordered some good seeds to grow, and i have failed at tripping on them. I keep trying to find ways to avoid nausea. But i think next time ill suck it up and just drink some sort of tea drink. I am growing both hbwr and morning glory's. The hbwr is something i had to grow twice to get down lol. Very sensitive to light differences. I think i could grow kratom, just takes practice. Pretty sure there are guides out there. I want my hands on the plant before its banned lol. That is the main reason i have been buying so many seeds. Just cause it could all be banned at any time. Or is already banned, and could just be harder to get some day. Alot of people say LSA trips arnt worth it, but i have read even more reputable people saying it is stronger the LSD when extracted properly. Albert Hofmann played around with it. The issue is that its so unstable. So for those of us with out a lab, the tea seems best to me lol. I keep getting really weak extracts, probably due to the fact that i have never had it at just the right temp, or a steady temp. Need water to evaporate and keep it cool, so takes days, also has to be kept from light.

 

[nicktater]

And thanks, cant wait to hear how the skullcap is.

 

[LIBERTYCHICKEN]

I have ordered some good seeds to grow, and i have failed at tripping on them. I keep trying to find ways to avoid nausea. But i think next time ill suck it up and just drink some sort of tea drink. I am growing both hbwr and morning glory's. The hbwr is something i had to grow twice to get down lol. Very sensitive to light differences. I think i could grow kratom, just takes practice. Pretty sure there are guides out there. I want my hands on the plant before its banned lol. That is the main reason i have been buying so many seeds. Just cause it could all be banned at any time. Or is already banned, and could just be harder to get some day. Alot of people say LSA trips arnt worth it, but i have read even more reputable people saying it is stronger the LSD when extracted properly. Albert Hofmann played around with it. The issue is that its so unstable. So for those of us with out a lab, the tea seems best to me lol. I keep getting really weak extracts, probably due to the fact that i have never had it at just the right temp, or a steady temp. Need water to evaporate and keep it cool, so takes days, also has to be kept from light.

Their are several different HBWR type seeds the ones that are actually from hawaie are the best the others are mostly garbage

When I take HBWR I scrape the outer brown layer off - This is a pain in the ass but it helps avoid the nausea. Its also best to make tea out of them becouse some of the bad stuff is left behind . I also take a dose of sea sickness meds about 45 minutes before (scopolamine) - When I do it like this I experiance no nausea or stomach issues
The only problem I ever have with HBWR is vasoconstriction effects at large doses or when mixed with stim's

Sometimes I like to take HBWR and/or other hallucingens with syrian rue , it helps the visuals and collor intensifaction but can mess with your stomach

 

[LIBERTYCHICKEN]

Nux Vomica is also a great natural buzz ,but can be dangerous if used wrong it also has a very long history and intersting history of being used as a drug

http://herbs.mxf.yuku.com/topic/3612335/Nux-Vomica-Basics?page=1

 

[nicktater]

Yeah i ordered the ones from Hawaii . Also ordered the morning glory heavenly blues Mayan strain. I have heard that cyanne pepper can reduce the vasoconstriction. It is apparently a vasodialator. Not sure how healthy it is to mix the two, was told not to do this often. Have heard of syrian rue, but my stomach is a pussy. I can barely handle shrooms.

 

[high|hgih]

Does pot help your tummy? Whenever I have been giving my stomach hell, smoking always seems to do a pretty good job at easing the pain. Unless I'm wasted, then it just gets worse.

Where is the best place you use to buy hbwr?

Very interesting liberty! Thanks! Nootropic stimulant performance enhancer.. Sounds prime! I've been trying to get into nootrpoics lately, honestly forgot. lol

Also, I made a kratom/kava smoothie just now. I used a shit load of ice cream, whipped cream, hot chocolate marshmallow mix, amd milk. I used 1% because I was too lazy to go to the store and buy whole or something(just woke up) so I put almost a third stick of butter in the shake for fat purposes. I think it helped a lot. I made a smoothie last night and it wasn;t near as potent as this one. It's going to take me hours to drink it but that's okay because I already have a heavy buzz going and I'm not even close to half way done. Tastes great too

 

[high|hgih]

Okay but fuck it's hurting my stomach.. lol not enough pot in the world.. Ughhh

 

[nicktater]

That sucks. I got my hbwr from iamshaman.com its been a few months though. I have been drinking kratom with peach mango juice. Having awesome results. 2 table spoons and im pretty messed up, sometimes too messed up. Still no luck with kava, but would love to try it. I think it would be good to find a good balance between different substances. Do one on one day, another the next, this way you avoid physical addiction to anything. Atleast try to anyway. I have been mary j free for 4 weeks now, decided to do this twice a year, to keep a low tolerance.

 

[high|hgih]

Good for you man! I actually made this thread for similar reasons. I got myself a paraphernalia ticket, funny, first drug charge I have ever gotten it's a fuckin miracle. Probably going to have to spend around $800 to get it reduced and what not. I have some time so that's cool. But I've been not smoking as much weed for a few reasons, 1, it is expensive(of course I could just grow, and I will someday I just don't feel determined or knowledgeable enough yet haha) 2, It makes me very lazy if I smoke it regularly. 3, it makes me very
VERY high when I have no tolerance. I can smoke a single hit of even the worse grade of marijuana and become mind blowingly baked. It puts the significance back in there. When I am that kind of high, I can do creative tasks like playing music and drawing and what not literally 1000x better. I can get higher off one hit of mids with absolutely no tolerance, than I can after smoking even like 20 blunts with a tolerance. I'll put it that way.

These natural buzzes come in handy.

Thanks for the hbwr site, I'll order a few within the next few days. See how I can get the most out of it.