Say that there was a draft..

[ChesusRice]

It's not that I am scared of danger.

I don't agree with this stuff that's going on, I wouldn't fight for something this idiotic.
I was paranoid when I made this thread, hopefully everything will be okay. I have faith.

Really though I want to know your guys' opinions on this whole Syria thing. What do you think it will come down to?

Proxy war with spec ops advisors. just as it has been for the last 2 years

 

[Red1966]

Were those who dodged the draft in Vietnam more of a blight on society than pedophiles? You seem to think so, so I have to ask, are you a pedophile? Because I say bravo to those who didn't feel killing men women and children indiscriminately in Vietnam was acceptable, fighting purely over an ideology that threatened American business interests, or seeing their fellow brothers in arms gunned down as they tried to invade and murder the indigenous population.

So far, the only person to have confessed to such atrocities is our Secretary of State.

 

[UncleBuck]

So far, the only person to have confessed to such atrocities is our Secretary of State.

forgetting about My Lai, herr red? i would think that would be right up your alley with your propensity for offing kids and wives.

2004 is over, by the way.

 

[RPM371]

If your so paranoid. Sign up for Selective Service. Coast Guard first pick, then Airforce....
Do they still have Selective Service???

FYI, the Coast Guard would be a bad idea. In time of war they operate alongside the Navy and handle shallow water ops, port security, search & rescue, ect.
Look who led Task Force Tarawa into Iraq:

 

[BigEasy1]

Don't be a pansy.

 

[Doer]

forgetting about My Lai, herr red? i would think that would be right up your alley with your propensity for offing kids and wives.

2004 is over, by the way.

Confessed? No one confessed at My Lai. But, the idea that State confessed to war crimes is also wrong. He never said any details of his involvement in anything. That is the main reason he is at State. He didn't confess, he charged.

 

[chewberto]

You mean someone left the window open? Just shut the window bro... Problem solved...no draft...

 

[chewberto]

Prison! no draft, no windows! Bang boom done!

 

[smokinafatty]

I would think if you gain a LOT of weight, about 50 pounds over, and failed the drug tests, that they wouldn't want you. But I don't know for sure, or much about drafts.... if you had a choice of the branch, choose the air force and get a desk job. Focus on being fat the whole time, they hate fat people. Don't fail drug tests after you're in, or you go to prison (I was in and saw it happen).

Apparently if we turn into spies, or murder people, or get drafted .... we can just go to Russia. So, go to Russia. And, taking on the spirit of CA and TX, you could then protest like mad about the Russians not speaking ENGLISH to you. Stand on street corners with signs about how they should be speaking English, especially to your English-speaking kids while they're in school. The entire country really should be catering to you and your English-speaking family.

If you're not wanted for a crime yet, they won't be watching for you to fly out of the country. There's work, toilet paper, and housing in Russia. While they won't cave in and speak your language like (the other) Americans we live around would do for other foreigners who pretend they're not foreigners (never understood their logic), you could find menial work until the war was over. You'd learn to speak Russian over time and probably rather be there in the end.

 

[Rob Roy]

The people that fight for your freedoms are idiots? Who do you think makes it so you have the freedom to say such stupid shit? Surely not the pansies like you. Your statement shows a lack of education and understanding about our country. Good thing our soldiers will fight to protect the ignorant so they can safely stay that way.

Why don't soldiers fight for the freedom of people to grow a plant? Seems like they're fighting the wrong "bad guy"....almost like they don't think for themselves.

 

[BigNBushy]

FYI, the Coast Guard would be a bad idea. In time of war they operate alongside the Navy and handle shallow water ops, port security, search & rescue, ect.
Look who led Task Force Tarawa into Iraq:

Yeah, and that Iraqi navy about whopped us too.

 

[Doer]

Why don't soldiers fight for the freedom of people to grow a plant? Seems like they're fighting the wrong "bad guy"....almost like they don't think for themselves.

Wow. Don't know much about military disciple, do you?

What you can think for yourself is very specific to rank.

 

[budlover13]

Wow. Don't know much about military disciple, do you?

What you can think for yourself is very specific to rank.

Was disciple a mis-spelling? Appro though.

 

[Doer]

Was disciple a mis-spelling? Appro though.

No, well, maybe...I don't know. The Shamans in Hawaii call it kiuki, I call it Self. And best to let it flow.

So, Self meant disciple, I see, so what is little ole Doer to that?

 

[NoDrama]

FYI, the Coast Guard would be a bad idea. In time of war they operate alongside the Navy and handle shallow water ops, port security, search & rescue, ect.
Look who led Task Force Tarawa into Iraq:

Someone has to get there first to make way for the captain of the carrier. The carrier is by far the most important ship there, the coast guard ship is the pawn piece aka Cannon Fodder. The Coast Guard is not important to the military security of the USA, their biggest weapon is a machine gun. No missiles, no Phalanx system, no nukes, no cannons, no strike capability whatsoever. A single destroyer could wipe out the entire CG fleet and not get a scratch.

The Coast Guard does not go with the Navy on missions either, they pretty much stay home.

 

[RPM371]

Someone has to get there first to make way for the captain of the carrier. The carrier is by far the most important ship there, the coast guard ship is the pawn piece aka Cannon Fodder. The Coast Guard is not important to the military security of the USA, their biggest weapon is a machine gun. No missiles, no Phalanx system, no nukes, no cannons, no strike capability whatsoever. A single destroyer could wipe out the entire CG fleet and not get a scratch.

The Coast Guard does not go with the Navy on missions either, they pretty much stay home.

You got one thing right. The Tarawa was the most important ship there. On everything else... Wrong, wrong and wrong again. Yeah they are the screen and you put your pawns up front. That's why I was advising him to rethink USCG. They aren't a guarenteed stay at home ticket. The Hamilton class cutters like the one shown have a 76 mm cannon, 2x 25 mm Mk38 gun mounts and a 20 mm Phalanx. The NSC class are even more sophisticated. They aren't battleships, they're escorts. But I'm not sure I'd put a single destroyer up against the entire fleet. And finally, the USCG is very important to the security of the US. They are the law on the high sea and provide port security. They operate under the control of the Navy in time of war, train side by side with them and go on missions. I did mention that was Task Force Tarawa, right?

 

[Rob Roy]

Wow. Don't know much about military disciple, do you?

What you can think for yourself is very specific to rank.

So how does a military institution that doesn't let people think and makes them serve involuntarily protect freedom again? It seems that might be a variation of "freedom" that is the "not freedom" kind...eh?

In order to be free, the actions of a person to engage and not engage in peaceful behaviors would be up to them, not another. Otherwise they are not free. Therefore any conscription of people to "protect freedom" has violated the meaning of freedom at the onset.

 

[Doer]

So how does a military institution that doesn't let people think and makes them serve involuntarily protect freedom again? It seems that might be a variation of "freedom" that is the "not freedom" kind...eh?

In order to be free, the actions of a person to engage and not engage in peaceful behaviors would be up to them, not another. Otherwise they are not free. Therefore any conscription of people to "protect freedom" has violated the meaning of freedom at the onset.

What the fuck, it is all volunteer. You don't get to define freedom. Not qualified.

 

[spandy]

They could draft me, but they wouldn't want me. Like that time that judge thought he was teaching me a lesson for refusing to pay for a bullshit seatbelt ticket with anything but my own time, yeah, my 4 day stay in county jail lasted an afternoon and I was released and the fine was "paid."

If you refuse to follow orders, you can be arrested. If you just follow those orders in the worst fashion possible, you get discharged.