FuckJeffGoldbloom
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Love the shoebox draining method...looks like it works well for ya!
World Of Hempy
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steeliesteve
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Hope everyone's doing good. Been quiet around here lately. I know this is my busy time of year. Deer season is right around the corner so there's plenty to do in the woods and this weekend I'm going salmon fishing. I love fall!
FuckJeffGoldbloom
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Without a doubt, autumn is my favorite season.
...and all the horror movies on the tv
...and all the horror movies on the tv
WattSaver
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Hey WoH
I've been playing with and making some hash. I found a small chunk of water resin made from some old trim that I screened for kief already. But it had been in a jar for close to 1/2 a yr. I'd say it was old, other might say aged. Anyways I followed frenchy's water bottle pressing procedure and transformed some sandy tan resin into a deep amber 1gm cannoli hash roll.
I did a water extraction with the small amount of new fresh trim and the trim from last grow, still not alot. I tried a new setup where I work the trim in a separate bucket and then just drain through the other screens, seems to work well + you can work the trim more than once. The greenish resin on the left passed through the 73 screen and I'll use it for edibles. The tan on the right I'll press into hash. I cleaned my water bags before this run with ISO and all sorts of nasty shit came out of the screens. I'll be sure to clean between every run from now on
Here's the BHO I scrapped last weekend. I shot it 12 days before, and stored in a cool spot letting the tane evaporate over time, popping the bubbles a couple of times. I heated it to about 85 degrees so I could scrape it. This is one of the cleanest butane runs I've had, and I'm sure it's because I cleaned everything prior to this blast with everclear. The oil has a fruity sweet taste.
I've been playing with and making some hash. I found a small chunk of water resin made from some old trim that I screened for kief already. But it had been in a jar for close to 1/2 a yr. I'd say it was old, other might say aged. Anyways I followed frenchy's water bottle pressing procedure and transformed some sandy tan resin into a deep amber 1gm cannoli hash roll.
I did a water extraction with the small amount of new fresh trim and the trim from last grow, still not alot. I tried a new setup where I work the trim in a separate bucket and then just drain through the other screens, seems to work well + you can work the trim more than once. The greenish resin on the left passed through the 73 screen and I'll use it for edibles. The tan on the right I'll press into hash. I cleaned my water bags before this run with ISO and all sorts of nasty shit came out of the screens. I'll be sure to clean between every run from now on
Here's the BHO I scrapped last weekend. I shot it 12 days before, and stored in a cool spot letting the tane evaporate over time, popping the bubbles a couple of times. I heated it to about 85 degrees so I could scrape it. This is one of the cleanest butane runs I've had, and I'm sure it's because I cleaned everything prior to this blast with everclear. The oil has a fruity sweet taste.
whocares100
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Sittin here at 1 am, still not sleeping...wish I could get buzzed enough to sleep
This has been a really hard time for me.
Sorry guys just don't feel like posting.
This has been a really hard time for me.
Sorry guys just don't feel like posting.
Malevolence
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Anyone tried smart pot hempy? I'm about to give it a shot in coco with a perlite res.... seemed like a good idea walking around the hydro store high as fuck yesterday... we will see. Picked up 5 pots.
Exhibit A
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A + B = ???
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
A + B = ???
Malevolence
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It is done... I used 3 gallon pots and 10" plastic trays. I made a hole in the side of the tray a couple inches up, standard hempy bucket style.
Unpacked the coco in 5.8ph dechlorinated tap water with a little cal/mag and aquashield.
Filled the tray with perlite and put it in the pot.
Filled the pot about 3/4 full with coco.
Mixed in a handful of GH alaskan ancient forest humus with the coco (never tried this before).
Made my divot in the coco to transplant from DWC seedling propagator to coco.
Placed root ball in the divot and sprinkled roots and coco with pond-zyme and mycogrow soluble (fungi)... never tried this before either.
Back-filled and finished filling up pot with straight coco.
Placed finished hempy bucket in 12" plastic dish to catch drainage.
I plan to feed unsulphered black strap molasses first watering for the bennies. I will be feeding Botanicare PBP and line-up so there are organic based nutrients that will be processed by the bennies I hope. Today is first day of 12/12... pics later when lights come on.
Unpacked the coco in 5.8ph dechlorinated tap water with a little cal/mag and aquashield.
Filled the tray with perlite and put it in the pot.
Filled the pot about 3/4 full with coco.
Mixed in a handful of GH alaskan ancient forest humus with the coco (never tried this before).
Made my divot in the coco to transplant from DWC seedling propagator to coco.
Placed root ball in the divot and sprinkled roots and coco with pond-zyme and mycogrow soluble (fungi)... never tried this before either.
Back-filled and finished filling up pot with straight coco.
Placed finished hempy bucket in 12" plastic dish to catch drainage.
I plan to feed unsulphered black strap molasses first watering for the bennies. I will be feeding Botanicare PBP and line-up so there are organic based nutrients that will be processed by the bennies I hope. Today is first day of 12/12... pics later when lights come on.
WattSaver
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I've tried it a couple of times, I found that a 3gal smart pot fits snugly into the bottom of 5gal bucket. Which makes a perfect light tight rez. In both runs the smart pot hempys lagged behind, in growth and final yield compared to the hard sided buckets in the same grow. I do like your design, and I still don't see why a smart pot shouldn't kick ass.
That's just the way it worked out for me.
blacksun
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I experienced the same thing with the three gallon smart pots, Watt. Slow growing, maybe a half an inch of growth a day. This is not a good thing when coming from both small and large rigid containers that pop out two+ inches of growth a day. I'm certain there is a way to get the smart pots to work better/properly and the reason it was growing slowly was because of me. Because they didn't do as well as the others I had (in rigid) I never took them into flower, so I can't comment on how well they would have yielded.
Malevolence
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well, fuck...
Nizza
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im thinking smartpot hempy's would work with a 2 or 2.5" layer of rockwool on the bottom and a 85/15 coco/perlite mix on top. I want to do a drip set up and see if i can get it to do 2 waterings per day; one right before lights on, and one 4-8 hours later (dep. on growth stage and light cycle) with the drip cycles off at night.
thinking humidity may be a problem though when i do this... cause the smartpots are getting more air they also increase your room humidity . Hopefully ill be able to get an intake + exhaust that straight outside to deal with that type of issue
This almost wouldnt be a hempy though, because there is no reservoir, but there kind of is, it would be the rockwool. Im thinking if i could get a huge slab of rockwool i could cut out circles to fit perfect to the bottom of the pot and then just put the coco mix on top of it. From here i can get a dripper setup and set everything on a perforated watertight floor that goes to a drainpan. Airflows over the pan through a sewer pipe (those black perforated ones ) and diffuses equally under every plant, rises up through the air hockey type floor and gets extra air to the roots.
Maybe the hempys could be a hard pot with several holes in it,line with grow pot fabric, leaving the bottom 2" for a hempy res. The problem then would be not getting air in through the rockwool, which i think sort of defeats the purpose.
I've thought a lot about this topic and hopefully some day i can nail it!
also eventually wanna incorporate this into a stacked up vertical setup
thinking humidity may be a problem though when i do this... cause the smartpots are getting more air they also increase your room humidity . Hopefully ill be able to get an intake + exhaust that straight outside to deal with that type of issue
This almost wouldnt be a hempy though, because there is no reservoir, but there kind of is, it would be the rockwool. Im thinking if i could get a huge slab of rockwool i could cut out circles to fit perfect to the bottom of the pot and then just put the coco mix on top of it. From here i can get a dripper setup and set everything on a perforated watertight floor that goes to a drainpan. Airflows over the pan through a sewer pipe (those black perforated ones ) and diffuses equally under every plant, rises up through the air hockey type floor and gets extra air to the roots.
Maybe the hempys could be a hard pot with several holes in it,line with grow pot fabric, leaving the bottom 2" for a hempy res. The problem then would be not getting air in through the rockwool, which i think sort of defeats the purpose.
I've thought a lot about this topic and hopefully some day i can nail it!
also eventually wanna incorporate this into a stacked up vertical setup
Malevolence
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The thing is I switched to coco hempys to run more oganic based nutes since everyone raves how the terpen development is so much better with organics. If I'm going to start chasing the explosive growth thing I might as well just set my DWC buckets back up. I thought the smart pots would reduce root balling and encourage more roots. My blue OG in 2G painter buckets have dense as fuck roots... if these fabric pots end up sucking I won't use them again.
WattSaver
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There is no real science in the follow statement, only my observations and opinions.
We all know the the hempy concept of a good air to water ratio, which will get the most out of a container size. And smart pots are proven to air prune roots, and they create a larger air surface for denser mediums. I think what we have here is two really good items but they don't mix well together, like peanut butter and chocolate do. What I noticed during breakdown was that the smart pot didn't have the thick root mass along the walls of the smart pot like the buckets do. So I'm thinking that during the couple of days it takes to use the rez, the coco around the edges would dry out too much.
IMO SP's should stick to DTW, where they excel. I do like the concept of the RW in the bottom to create a rez like environment. With a drip feed system the RW would be saturated all the time. If it were me the RW slab would only be 1/2" thick, but I could be way off on that line of thought, RW keeps surprising me with it's qualities.
We all know the the hempy concept of a good air to water ratio, which will get the most out of a container size. And smart pots are proven to air prune roots, and they create a larger air surface for denser mediums. I think what we have here is two really good items but they don't mix well together, like peanut butter and chocolate do. What I noticed during breakdown was that the smart pot didn't have the thick root mass along the walls of the smart pot like the buckets do. So I'm thinking that during the couple of days it takes to use the rez, the coco around the edges would dry out too much.
IMO SP's should stick to DTW, where they excel. I do like the concept of the RW in the bottom to create a rez like environment. With a drip feed system the RW would be saturated all the time. If it were me the RW slab would only be 1/2" thick, but I could be way off on that line of thought, RW keeps surprising me with it's qualities.
whocares100
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Watt how did your ripening bud experiment turn out, Sorry if I missed the post...
thecoolman
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jela10
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My sentiments exactly. Our rigid buckets, when things are explosive, see a lot of root activity circling around the side. Coco exposed to air around the sides will go dry as it does up top. At least up top you know it's not hurting anything. I actually want my water wicking upward from the "water table", not outward. Here's coco over rockwool croutons.
HydroGp
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Hey guys. Wanted to share a quick update. Ive been sick since Saturday. That was also Lemon Skunk harvest day. Had some humidity issues and lost some of my Snowcap to mold 
My dog got sick to so took him to the vet to find he had something stuck in his belly so now hes been operated, and we hope his stomach is functioning proper got him home today 
Well hope yall is good. This will be my last hempy run for now. Getting back to dwc. But theres always room for a hempy somewhere 
My dog got sick to so took him to the vet to find he had something stuck in his belly so now hes been operated, and we hope his stomach is functioning proper got him home today Well hope yall is good. This will be my last hempy run for now. Getting back to dwc. But theres always room for a hempy somewhere