Chemical weapons used by Syria

Harrekin

Harrekin

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Dr Kynes said:
russia, being well schooled in the art of running puppet regimes, and letting their attack dogs do their dirty work (yeah yeah israel. pretend america and israel dont see eye to eye on everything for once, in other words, embrace reality...)
russia will simply give assad MORE chems, gve the rebels more chems, and let them waste each other and if there happens to be an "accident" in chechnya, well so much the better.

the russians gassed the afghans, the russians gave saddam chemical weapons and experts to teach him how to use it, sponsored his nuclear program, assist the iranians in their mad delusions of power, and otherwise make themselves a nuisance to everybody in the mid east for no apparent reason than to stymie US goals in the region.

and these are the guys you want handling this issue?

the solution is simple, if assad used gas, (and the evidence says he did) then he should face consequences. likewise the evidence is inescapable that the "rebels" (and by that i mean international jihadjis looking to topple one more asshole who was not quite asshole enough for their purposes) also were trucking in chems by the boatload. assad just seems to have been the first to shout "Pull My Finger!" and let one rip.

the solution:
EMBARGO.
no shipments of anything, not food, not "medicine" not arms, not "baby milk" not money, NOTHIN into syria, any nation that violates the mebargo gets the same embargo on them, and so on.
anyone who wants to help nutbars gas themselves is probably gonna help somebody else let a few stinkers off too, and once the gas bombs start rolling around on the open market, then everything will go to shit in a hurry.

i say blockade syria, and let them wallow in their own crapulence until they A: beg for intercession and welcome outside assistance with open arms or B: after 5-10 years when the posions have dissipated, look at this new awesome homeland for the plaestinians! they can move right in.
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Or just leave them alone.

Citation on the conclusive evidence linking Assad to the attack?
 
El Tiberon

El Tiberon

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It will be a good day when the Russians and the Chinese give you ass whipping you have been asking for so many years. Celebrations and toasts for the world. Imperialsts will be slaves!
 
Doer

Doer

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El Tiberon said:
It will be a good day when the Russians and the Chinese give you ass whipping you have been asking for so many years. Celebrations and toasts for the world. Imperialsts will be slaves!
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You are an idiot...seemingly. :)

So, Ferengi, you don't realize you are talking about our oldest and best friends, outside of England and France?

We have never fought either directly and I seriously doubt we ever will.

BTW, you know we give aid each year to both of these countries?
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
What's wrong with a Glock? The 19 gets rave reviews with the gangstas. Which Sig, p228?
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glocks are shit. their extreme cutouts on feed ramps and ejectors leaves large areas of the case unsupported, which is why glocks are clearly marked "Warranty Void If Used With Hand Loaded Ammunition"

glocks suck donkeyballs in .40S&W, .45acp, 10mm auto, .357 sig, etc etc etc, or anything which uses pressures higher than the wimpy low power obsolete 9mm parabellum

and i pack a P226 (classic version used by FBI and the Secret Service, not the new civilian re-design)
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Harrekin said:
Do you understand "evidence"?

The UN report allocates no blame and provides circumstantial evidence at best.

Try harder, Doc, where's the "smoking gun" ?
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the un investigators were to only confirm the weapons usage their mission was not to lay blame
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
Do you understand "evidence"?

The UN report allocates no blame and provides circumstantial evidence at best.

Try harder, Doc, where's the "smoking gun" ?
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You know, I've told that my dad was one of 60 Top Sargent in the AF. His Master Chief's network is very active and they produce a newsletter.

Now I have been saying we watch from Space. So he said, are you sure there was a Bird up for this? Wha?

Well, he says that neither we nor the Russians had Bird's Eye on this supposed launch proof. We can't get 100% coverage at 300 miles for the high resolution cameras. And the Network knows the orbits.

Then he said, "Don't you think Assad knows when the Eyes are not looking?"

So, I am pretty sure now, they just are pretending again. They, meaning the Exec Branch. I don't mean any particular President.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ginjawarrior said:
the un investigators were to only confirm the weapons usage their mission was not to lay blame
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However the Mericans, French and others are now saying the report is evidence enough to know Assad launched the attack...

Its bullshit, show me real evidence that Assads regime ordered the attacks and I'll join the "fuck Assad" side, but this circumstantial crap cited as evidence wouldn't even make it past preliminary hearings in court.
 
Doer

Doer

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I am with you. They may have evidence, but they are not showing me. And the last time they showed evidence, I fell for it.

But, it was just a mosquito truck and and a model plane. Gosh.
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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Harrekin said:
However the Mericans, French and others are now saying the report is evidence enough to know Assad launched the attack...

Its bullshit, show me real evidence that Assads regime ordered the attacks and I'll join the "fuck Assad" side, but this circumstantial crap cited as evidence wouldn't even make it past preliminary hearings in court.
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We don't have evidence of him giving the orders

But we have a high confidence that the regime was responsible because
And this is not an exclusive list:

  • The regime is known to have the equipment used, whilst there is no evidence that the rebels have this.
  • The scale of the attack points towards a formal military unit.
  • The trail of damage points to a regime military complex from which other (conventional) bombardments have originated.
  • To fake this would require more sophistication than to perform the actual attack.
  • It would have been impossible for the rebels to keep such an attack with such heavy weaponry secret, whilst that would have been straightforward fro the regime, in a formal military unit.
  • The conventional artillery bombardment that occurred at the same time would also have been outside the rebels capabilities, so if they were simply responsible for the gas attack their co-ordination and planning is unfeasibly superb.
  • If the rebels had such rocket launchers then why have they devoted the significant resources required for such a unit to only performing a single operation that harmed their own area?



 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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ginjawarrior said:
We don't have evidence of him giving the orders

But we have a high confidence that the regime was responsible because
And this is not an exclusive list:

  • The regime is known to have the equipment used, whilst there is no evidence that the rebels have this.
  • The scale of the attack points towards a formal military unit.
  • The trail of damage points to a regime military complex from which other (conventional) bombardments have originated.
  • To fake this would require more sophistication than to perform the actual attack.
  • It would have been impossible for the rebels to keep such an attack with such heavy weaponry secret, whilst that would have been straightforward fro the regime, in a formal military unit.
  • The conventional artillery bombardment that occurred at the same time would also have been outside the rebels capabilities, so if they were simply responsible for the gas attack their co-ordination and planning is unfeasibly superb.
  • If the rebels had such rocket launchers then why have they devoted the significant resources required for such a unit to only performing a single operation that harmed their own area?
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care to back that up with a link? you're off the mark very much so...
 
echelon1k1

echelon1k1

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ginjawarrior said:
You aren't aware of the evidence in this case?

Which part are you needing confirmation for?
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All of it, as you've cherry picked info to support your claims which are bullshit... Assad is not responsible and I've already provided enough citations backing that up...
 
ginjawarrior

ginjawarrior

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echelon1k1 said:
All of it, as you've cherry picked info to support your claims which are bullshit... Assad is not responsible and I've already provided enough citations backing that up...
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LoL you think I cherry picked? So your aware of what I'm talking about?


As your aware of it refute one of them
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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ginjawarrior said:
We don't have evidence of him giving the orders

But we have a high confidence that the regime was responsible because
And this is not an exclusive list:

  • The regime is known to have the equipment used, whilst there is no evidence that the rebels have this.
  • The scale of the attack points towards a formal military unit.
  • The trail of damage points to a regime military complex from which other (conventional) bombardments have originated.
  • To fake this would require more sophistication than to perform the actual attack.
  • It would have been impossible for the rebels to keep such an attack with such heavy weaponry secret, whilst that would have been straightforward fro the regime, in a formal military unit.
  • The conventional artillery bombardment that occurred at the same time would also have been outside the rebels capabilities, so if they were simply responsible for the gas attack their co-ordination and planning is unfeasibly superb.
  • If the rebels had such rocket launchers then why have they devoted the significant resources required for such a unit to only performing a single operation that harmed their own area?
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Your honour! Circumstantial!

Sustained.
 
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