Is there anyway to save them

[tusseltussel]

Nothing looks wrong but a little bit wet so idk what your worried about
is it because one is slightly slouched over just give it a couple of days
it should sprout right up.

Exactly, and a dome and heat mat aren't going to fix that problem

 

[FatStonerBabe]

I would try doing 24 hour light cycle as well. It's always done a world of difference that I can gather from my research, but I'm no expert for sure lol. Just a suggestion though

 

[ThePerfectGrow]

What a train wreck this thread is.... No dome no heat mat, leave then in open air and water when needed that's it, not rocket science

IMO the absolute best environment for a young seedling is a propagator. Seedlings need consistency in order to grow healthily; that means consistent temperature, humidity and air flow. A propagator provides this consistent environment. Any changes to these environmental factors need to be done as gradually as possible – to prevent shock - and it’s easy to do this with a propagator.


When seeds first germinate, you need to maintain humidity of around 80%, this is done by keeping the humidity vents closed, which stops airflow and prevents moisture from escaping.




A healthy little sprout in the dirt


Once all seedlings are showing, gradually open the vents a little each day, this will increase the airflow and decrease the humidity, this process is called hardening off and gets the seedlings ready to be moved into the main room. It also prevents ‘damping off’. After 10 days the lid should be fully removed and your seedlings will be ready for transplanting up.

 

[tusseltussel]

IMO the absolute best environment for a young seedling is a propagator. Seedlings need consistency in order to grow healthily; that means consistent temperature, humidity and air flow. A propagator provides this consistent environment. Any changes to these environmental factors need to be done as gradually as possible – to prevent shock - and it’s easy to do this with a propagator.


When seeds first germinate, you need to maintain humidity of around 80%, this is done by keeping the humidity vents closed, which stops airflow and prevents moisture from escaping.




A healthy little sprout in the dirt


Once all seedlings are showing, gradually open the vents a little each day, this will increase the airflow and decrease the humidity, this process is called hardening off and gets the seedlings ready to be moved into the main room. It also prevents ‘damping off’. After 10 days the lid should be fully removed and your seedlings will be ready for transplanting up.

If that's what works for you do it. I disagree

 

[bass1014]

so is it dead or what??

 

[Royal Blue]

People are over complicating this its really as simple
as it gets if you have to do any more than watch the clock tick
you might want to think and stop for a sec.

 

[ThePerfectGrow]

Thanks guys I think there gonna make it, the one that fell over I used some ties to stand it up and the inner leaves appear to be growing as for the other one its standing strong thanks a lot for helping me save them

How they doin mascorp? There is n will always be varying opinions of what works best. That's why it's important to keep a learning journal n ultimately do what works best for you!

 

[kryptoniteglo]

What a train wreck this thread is.... No dome no heat mat, leave then in open air and water when needed that's it, not rocket science

Thank you! I was just about to scream. No domes for seedlings. Only clones. If the top of the cube is too damp, your babies might succumb to damping off disease, which is horrible to behold. Water from the bottom up -- when the cube feels light when you pick it up, dunk it in water about half-way up for a second, then pull it out. That way the water stays toward the bottom of the cube. Not only might you avoid damping off disease, the plant's roots will seek water downward, not sideways. When the root pokes out the bottom of the cube, you're ready to move into a more mature growing place. I'm hydro, so for me it's into the hydroton.

Good luck!

 

[ThePerfectGrow]

Thank you! I was just about to scream. No domes for seedlings. Only clones. If the top of the cube is too damp, your babies might succumb to damping off disease, which is horrible to behold. Water from the bottom up -- when the cube feels light when you pick it up, dunk it in water about half-way up for a second, then pull it out. That way the water stays toward the bottom of the cube. Not only might you avoid damping off disease, the plant's roots will seek water downward, not sideways. When the root pokes out the bottom of the cube, you're ready to move into a more mature growing place. I'm hydro, so for me it's into the hydroton.

Good luck!

Go ahead n scream but yelling usually ends up in apologies! Although I agree many seeds are quite capable of germinating without our assistance, greater success can be achieved if we can create ideal conditions in which seeds burst into life. Just as the fork and spade are essential tools of the gardener, a propagator is part and parcel of the seed-raiser's armoury.


In order to germinate from a seed, plants have three basic requirements: moisture, oxygen from the air and adequate temperatures. Not all require light to germinate. These may sound simple enough to provide but at no other time in its life is a plant more vulnerable to changes in the environment than during the process of germination. Young tissues are very fragile and have not yet had any time to build up resistance to sudden changes in temperatures and moistures. Excess of both these basic needs can be as damaging to young plants as if they were not provided at all. If conditions are not right for germination, some seeds will remain dormant until conditions improve, others will perish.


Although plant breeders are currently introducing new varieties and hybrids that are easier to germinate and more uniform in their rate of germination, there is still a vast range of plants offered by seed merchants' catalogues which have a whole spectrum of responses to moisture and temperature. This is obviously determined by the climate they experience in their homelands. Some plants may need only a short period of high temperatures to stimulate germination whilst others may require consistently high temperatures over a long period of time. Others may even need a mixture of high and low temperatures each day in order to grow.


Whatever we grow from seed be it vegetables, bedding plants or something from the depths of a tropical rain forest, seed is valuable. It makes sense to be able to control the conditions affecting germination, tailoring them to the needs of each specific plant rather than leaving it to chance. Propagators enable us to achieve this degree of control. Besides making our hobby more rewarding, sweeping away much of the mystique which surrounds growing plants from seed, they also extend the growing season by providing optimum conditions if growing outdoors.

 

[kryptoniteglo]

Go ahead n scream but yelling usually ends up in apologies! Although I agree many seeds are quite capable of germinating without our assistance, greater success can be achieved if we can create ideal conditions in which seeds burst into life. Just as the fork and spade are essential tools of the gardener, a propagator is part and parcel of the seed-raiser's armoury.


In order to germinate from a seed, plants have three basic requirements: moisture, oxygen from the air and adequate temperatures. Not all require light to germinate. These may sound simple enough to provide but at no other time in its life is a plant more vulnerable to changes in the environment than during the process of germination. Young tissues are very fragile and have not yet had any time to build up resistance to sudden changes in temperatures and moistures. Excess of both these basic needs can be as damaging to young plants as if they were not provided at all. If conditions are not right for germination, some seeds will remain dormant until conditions improve, others will perish.


Although plant breeders are currently introducing new varieties and hybrids that are easier to germinate and more uniform in their rate of germination, there is still a vast range of plants offered by seed merchants' catalogues which have a whole spectrum of responses to moisture and temperature. This is obviously determined by the climate they experience in their homelands. Some plants may need only a short period of high temperatures to stimulate germination whilst others may require consistently high temperatures over a long period of time. Others may even need a mixture of high and low temperatures each day in order to grow.


Whatever we grow from seed be it vegetables, bedding plants or something from the depths of a tropical rain forest, seed is valuable. It makes sense to be able to control the conditions affecting germination, tailoring them to the needs of each specific plant rather than leaving it to chance. Propagators enable us to achieve this degree of control. Besides making our hobby more rewarding, sweeping away much of the mystique which surrounds growing plants from seed, they also extend the growing season by providing optimum conditions if growing outdoors.

You're probably right about screaming and apologies. My bad. My personal experience has been if I allow the top of the rock wool cube to stay damp, I'll lose 1/3 of my seedlings to damping off. However, if I keep the top dry, that doesn't happen. So I stay vigilant against top-of-the-cube dampness.

Hopefully the OP has had no problems since posting!