what do I need to know about wiring?

[dylan843]

I am moving power from my house to a hole in the woods ( where my rooms gunna be), this will be operated by a standard extension cord, with one of those multi plug things at the end. My ventilation, lights, fans, etc is all pre wired to the 110v normal plugs.

So basically can I simply just plug all the cords into the exstension cord? If not what all do I need to figure out of the power supply, lights etc, and the cords to make it all work?

Thank you.

 

[justugh]

Not unless u want to burn down all your work

those cords are only made for short term use with one maybe 2 things ..............your going to be running alot more watts tho that one cord then it was designed for

the best choice is little harder and cost little more but once it is done it is done
u need to install a breaker on pannel for 220v and run a cord to the shed/hole in the wall ........................the wire itself should be incased in some pvc piping or something to protect it from weather and animals munching on it

for insurance reasons u should hire a bonded person to put in the break and start the wire running out ( u can finish it off yourself) but with him being bonded and the work to code if anything does happen insurance will still pay out

 

[thecoolman]

If you want to do it half ass at least use a minimum 12 gauge extension cord and hook it to a GFI outlet.
If over 50 feet get a 10 guage cord. You could also run a 12 guage UF wire under ground without pvc from a split breaker in your existing panel. This would give you 20 amps. Be sure to use some form of
GFI growing out there in the woods other wise at least get some life insurance.

 

[PICOGRAV]

How far away is the hole?

 

[DeeTee]

Ther are too many variable to answer properly, tho most answers are sound, one should not "fiddle" with electricity if one is not familiar with it, best have a trusted licensed electrician do it for you or at least assit you.

 

[PICOGRAV]

I don't think any licensed electrician will install a power box into a dirt hole in your back yard...

 

[dylan843]

Ok here's the details. The power is from a bathroom from a golf course bathroom. The power is taken from the attic, connectinh a gcfi plug into the wiring up in the attic. They never check I have done this for years on a smaller scale. The cord is drilled thru the wall and ran down a tree, from there buryed undergroubd the whole way to the w
Hole.The hole will be around 750ftaway in a hole in the woods, with a door in the roof and covered in dirt so you have to dig to the door. Ventilatiob is still ran thru to surface. There will be a smaller dark room inside the underground room that I am growing In, the other room is just for some other supplys to be stored and for having it ug of course.

Yes I know the wiring from the gc bt is illigal, growing weed is too. I've tested the power by plugging in 2 powerful lamps and after 1 month they were undisturbed so I don't think they motice the extra power. Besides all the wiring is hidden

I really need a shopping list of exactly what I need, I will have 4 1000w lights, and all the other stuff, hydro systrm, vents etc that need powering.

Ask me if you need anu more info I really appriciate the help.

Sorry for the mistypes on my phone

 

[ThePerfectGrow]

That's awesome! What golf course? Nothin better than gettin buzzed n golfin

 

[PICOGRAV]

You are going to need more power if you plan on using those lights, I would switch to CFL or LED, the heat will be less of a problem if one of your ventilation fans stops running. So you already have this power cored in place or do you need to run it?

Wont someone see you with a 750 foot cable, that will be quite large, also the power drop over that distance is going to be large as well and you will have to be careful with switch mode power supply's and digital ballasts.

 

[Ringsixty]

I am moving power from my house to a hole in the woods ( where my rooms gunna be), this will be operated by a standard extension cord, with one of those multi plug things at the end. My ventilation, lights, fans, etc is all pre wired to the 110v normal plugs.

So basically can I simply just plug all the cords into the exstension cord? If not what all do I need to figure out of the power supply, lights etc, and the cords to make it all work?

Thank you.

Do you own the house? Is it worth burning it down.
Build the room. Hire an electrician, tell him it's your work shop / Dark room for Photography or what ever you want.
A little $$ spent now is better than a lot of $$$$$ later. Your choice...Think real hard. You can always make up the $$ later.

Just heard of one house going up in flames about 4 months ago..Yep, faulty wiring in the guys grow room.
Insurance is not going to pay for his Fuck up.
JMO

 

[dylan843]

You are going to need more power if you plan on using those lights, I would switch to CFL or LED, the heat will be less of a problem if one of your ventilation fans stops running. So you already have this power cored in place or do you need to run it?

Wont someone see you with a 750 foot cable, that will be quite large, also the power drop over that distance is going to be large as well and you will have to be careful with switch mode power supply's and digital ballasts.

I have a lot larger material to take over. Including a mini excavator one night to dig yhe hole, I jusy drive my car right on the cart path at night nobody sees.

No cords are in place yet just a 110v/220v gcfi power outlet that I need to run the power from.

Need enough to power 4 lights, hydro system, vents, temp control, dehumidifier, ro filter (I get raw water from the bathroom too)
And fans.

As far as the lights I am going after bigger fast groing plants so the 4000w would be nice, what kind of results could I get off those lights?

 

[PICOGRAV]

but the supply from one socket is not going to give over the 40 amps you need, are there any other lines you could run off?

CFL is what I would recommend for unattended grows, easy to set up and good results, set on/off times for veg and forget, come back in 30 days change the to flower blubs and 12/12 and you are set.

 

[dylan843]

How many amps could I do I off one standard extension cord from the 750ft away? (Or any special kind I should get?)

What size cfl should i use? What would be my amps be with those lights?

24 site 5gallon buckets hydro system

 

[dylan843]

but the supply from one socket is not going to give over the 40 amps you need, are there any other lines you could run off?

CFL is what I would recommend for unattended grows, easy to set up and good results, set on/off times for veg and forget, come back in 30 days change the to flower blubs and 12/12 and you are set.

ow many amps could I do I off one standard extension cord from the 750ft away? (Or any special kind I should get?)What size cfl should i use? What would be my amps be with those lights?

im using a24 site 5gallon buckets hydro system

Also I might can add a few more cords all connected to different connection points? (There's 4 or 5, for each power part of the br)

 

[PICOGRAV]

You should check the breaker that connects to the bath room, it could be 10 amp, 15, 20? all those points would lead back to the same breaker anyway, so that will not help. You should run the thickest, solid core wire you can and make sure you ground everything.

Can you connect the wires directly to the breaker?

 

[dylan843]

No I can't I don't want the wiring visible at all or they may catch on.

I looked into cfls, going to use 200w ones, how would this approximately compare too 1000w hps?

I will look at the breaker tonight and get back too you, so its whatever size amps it isthe max power the entire bathroom can support?

 

[dylan843]

You should check the breaker that connects to the bath room, it could be 10 amp, 15, 20? all those points would lead back to the same breaker anyway, so that will not help. You should run the thickest, solid core wire you can and make sure you ground everything.

Can you connect the wires directly to the breaker?

No I can't I don't want the wiring visible at all or they may catch on.*I looked into cfls, going to use 200w ones, how would this approximately compare too 1000w hps?I will look at the breaker tonight and get back too you, so its whatever size amps it isthe max power the entire bathroom can support?

Soery for the double posts I keep forgettin to quote u

 

[ElfoodStampo]

I am moving power from my house to a hole in the woods ( where my rooms gunna be), this will be operated by a standard extension cord, with one of those multi plug things at the end. My ventilation, lights, fans, etc is all pre wired to the 110v normal plugs.

So basically can I simply just plug all the cords into the exstension cord? If not what all do I need to figure out of the power supply, lights etc, and the cords to make it all work?

Thank you.

This is not as overwhelming as some make it out to be.
1st Add all all the AMPS of the products you will be using in your shed.
2nd Allot 15-20% extra amperage to compensate for surge of startup. If your using LED there isnt a need for this much extra. HPS and MH for sure though you need the 20%
3rd Buy an extension cord capable of handling said AMPERAGE figured above,
Plug that bitch into the wall outlet and let her rip.
Keep in mind the AMPS of the breaker you are using(from your main panel) must be higher that the sum total of steps 1+2, and your not running other stuff without realizing it. like if its on a garage breaker and you come home and open the garage door, tripping the breaker and kicking your grow room in the balls. Depending on the draw you plan on using you may want to split it on two breakers with two extension cords.
The reason you should use extension cords and not romex, is because if you use romex you have to bury it in a conduit and that draws a straight line to your treasure chest.
Also, if you get caught with the buried romex your fucked.
If you use extension cords at least you have plausible deny-ability.
" I had those out there for when I trim tree branches and blow leaves out of the yard.. and some sons of bitches are using them for grass growing, Jesus.. I was wondering why my electric bill went up." or something.
Just remember not to exceed the ratings on the products your using. all the math is there you just have to work it out.
Good luck!

 

[dylan843]

You should check the breaker that connects to the bath room, it could be 10 amp, 15, 20? all those points would lead back to the same breaker anyway, so that will not help. You should run the thickest, solid core wire you can and make sure you ground everything.

Can you connect the wires directly to the breaker?

This is not as overwhelming as some make it out to be.
1st Add all all the AMPS of the products you will be using in your shed.
2nd Allot 15-20% extra amperage to compensate for surge of startup. If your using LED there isnt a need for this much extra. HPS and MH for sure though you need the 20%
3rd Buy an extension cord capable of handling said AMPERAGE figured above,
Plug that bitch into the wall outlet and let her rip.
Keep in mind the AMPS of the breaker you are using(from your main panel) must be higher that the sum total of steps 1+2, and your not running other stuff without realizing it. like if its on a garage breaker and you come home and open the garage door, tripping the breaker and kicking your grow room in the balls. Depending on the draw you plan on using you may want to split it on two breakers with two extension cords.
The reason you should use extension cords and not romex, is because if you use romex you have to bury it in a conduit and that draws a straight line to your treasure chest.
Also, if you get caught with the buried romex your fucked.
If you use extension cords at least you have plausible deny-ability.
" I had those out there for when I trim tree branches and blow leaves out of the yard.. and some sons of bitches are using them for grass growing, Jesus.. I was wondering why my electric bill went up." or something.
Just remember not to exceed the ratings on the products your using. all the math is there you just have to work it out.
Good luck!

Thanks for the simplicity. The breaker is 15 amps.

The only thing is I can't figure out the amps of what's already connected. There is 1 power outlet, 2 paper towel dispensers, 4 34w ecologic floresent (I think) lights, 2 small exaust fans, 3 60w round halo lights, and 2 other halo spots with no bulb...

About how many amps will that be? idk how to find out exact. Conservative estimates are better

 

[PICOGRAV]

This is not as overwhelming as some make it out to be.
1st Add all all the AMPS of the products you will be using in your shed.
2nd Allot 15-20% extra amperage to compensate for surge of startup. If your using LED there isnt a need for this much extra. HPS and MH for sure though you need the 20%
3rd Buy an extension cord capable of handling said AMPERAGE figured above,
Plug that bitch into the wall outlet and let her rip.
Keep in mind the AMPS of the breaker you are using(from your main panel) must be higher that the sum total of steps 1+2, and your not running other stuff without realizing it. like if its on a garage breaker and you come home and open the garage door, tripping the breaker and kicking your grow room in the balls. Depending on the draw you plan on using you may want to split it on two breakers with two extension cords.
The reason you should use extension cords and not romex, is because if you use romex you have to bury it in a conduit and that draws a straight line to your treasure chest.
Also, if you get caught with the buried romex your fucked.
If you use extension cords at least you have plausible deny-ability.
" I had those out there for when I trim tree branches and blow leaves out of the yard.. and some sons of bitches are using them for grass growing, Jesus.. I was wondering why my electric bill went up." or something.
Just remember not to exceed the ratings on the products your using. all the math is there you just have to work it out.
Good luck!

I don't think you can buy 750 foot extension cords, and I also would not connect 8 100 ft ones together the voltage drop with extension coreds would be way to big:



The fact of the matter is, he is going to lose A LOT of the power just in the cord and needs the thickest possible conductors.