So what happens with Obamacare

ScottNM

Active Member
Well, common sense is lacking in our country. We have two ways to go. One is to shut the government down. The other is to delay a new gov program. It really is that simple. Which is more unamerican? Think for yourselves.
 

ChesusRice

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Well, common sense is lacking in our country. We have two ways to go. One is to shut the government down. The other is to delay a new gov program. It really is that simple. Which is more unamerican? Think for yourselves.
Both options arent necessary
 

nitro harley

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actually, some of the sites went down because they were swamped with traffic.

did you get your retarded postdiction from dick morris again?
I told you that , that was Billys Dick for to long...I have no use for him..

Yes I heard that oregon was postponed for awhile..Something happened, not sure what?.......I talked to my son and he has been talking to his other healthy young friends and it sounds like they are going to just pay the fine and worry about it later....So I predict a really slow sign up from most young people if at all....time will tell.
 

schuylaar

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The real reason companies offer insurance is for the tax benefit. If you make $50,000 a year and get paid $50,000 a year, 100% of it is taxable. If you take $45,000 cash and $5,000 in health insurance benefits, only $45,000 is taxable. Employer-sponsored insurance amounts to a tax shelter worth hundreds of billions of dollars a for employees.

If you made $50,000 a year and spent $5,000 on your own insurance plan, you wouldn't get the tax benefit.
are you a first year business student?
 

schuylaar

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Reuters) - Americans will pay an average premium of $328 monthly for a mid-tier health insurance plan when the Obamacare health exchanges open for enrollment next week, and most will qualify for government subsidies to lower that price, the federal government said on Wednesday.
the exchanges are open and if your state doesn't have one you go to www.healthcare.gov

due to the popularity of the ACA, the site has crashed and you have to give them time..open enrollment continues until 3/31/14, for 1/1/14 coverage.

i heard that a premium selection for 350$/monthly gives you 90% coverage..deductible unknown, tho and of course then depending on your income are subsidies..
 

schuylaar

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Mind sending me the $2,800 difference if my employer stops offering insurance next month once this year's enrollment ends?
1. "if"
2. it is YOUR responsibility to negotiate YOUR employment compensation..stop being a whiney little girlie man and grow a pair..that is a question for your e-m-p-l-o-y-e-r

 

schuylaar

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well, common sense is lacking in our country. We have two ways to go. One is to shut the government down. The other is to delay a new gov program. it really is that simple. Which is more unamerican? Think for yourselves.
"law".....
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I told you that , that was Billys Dick for to long...I have no use for him..

Yes I heard that oregon was postponed for awhile..Something happened, not sure what?.......I talked to my son and he has been talking to his other healthy young friends and it sounds like they are going to just pay the fine and worry about it later....So I predict a really slow sign up from most young people if at all....time will tell.
a soothsayer now?:lol:
 

nitro harley

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yes you do, you post his articles here as if they had some basis in reality (they don't).
Hey Buck...

It should of been an article with out the S....and when I posted his article I said first thing that it was not my Opinion.....You need to go back and maybe read it one more time, just to get it right..
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
a soothsayer now?:lol:

A soothsayer?...

Did my tone change?....I am not totally against health care for everybody..I was lucky to live in a state that offered me Ins after I got dumped by a company that took my money for over 15 years....I had to do what it took to get on it but it was available....I think everybody should pay now so the reality of what people really voted for will be felt by everybody before next november....I would be paying weather Obamacare was in or out, so I'm just eating pop corn right now..
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
A soothsayer?...

Did my tone change?....I am not totally against health care for everybody..I was lucky to live in a state that offered me Ins after I got dumped by a company that took my money for over 15 years....I had to do what it took to get on it but it was available....I think everybody should pay now so the reality of what people really voted for will be felt by everybody before next november....I would be paying weather Obamacare was in or out, so I'm just eating pop corn right now..
correct. and LIBERAL oregon is why you had the offer of a pooled health..
 

nitro harley

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correct. and LIBERAL oregon is why you had the offer of a pooled health..
I have many Liberal friends here in Oregon...And there tone has changed. I go chinook fishing with some liberal friends and they think hillary is belly up, like a battered house wife that would rather share her husband with young girls than divorce his ass an act like a possible leader.....just things we talk about while we are fishing..
 

nitro harley

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Well the new republican talking point is:
obamacare is bad because people will like it
There will be alot of sick people that are going to love it....They will have alot better reason to sign up right away....BarryO should of asked the collage kids if they really have the extra money to pay up........That reminds me of jesse james tattoo PAY UP SUCKERS..
 

NevaSmokedOut

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from one side i hear obamacare will help american families affordable cheap medical, on the other side i hear that this will impact a shit load on citizens taxes. i now feel like one of the thousands of (if not millions) of americans that don't get involved with politics. *smokes a j watching ren & stimpy*
 

tokeprep

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are you a first year business student?
You told us companies pool insurance to save money. Absolutely false. I gave you the real explanation, which is the exception in the tax code worth hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Without that exception, there would be no incentive for companies to offer insurance.
 

ChesusRice

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There will be alot of sick people that are going to love it....They will have alot better reason to sign up right away....BarryO should of asked the collage kids if they really have the extra money to pay up........That reminds me of jesse james tattoo PAY UP SUCKERS..
How old are college kids?
Just wondering becuase if they are under 26 years of age
They can stay on their parents plan
And if they are poor enough (yeah I went to college I was poor) They can get a super cheap policy subsidized by the goverment
 
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