15 mg ir morphine..

[racerboy71]

When I read through this and saw what racers friend gets prescribed my teeth cringed! Don't get me wrong I was the guy who passed out talking to you in mid sentence and was a pro at sleeping while standing, but to think about how much it hurt to stop all that I'm glad it's not me prescribed those meds.

Why a doctor would prescribe all that is a mystery to me(multiple opiates with Benz). In fact my father has degenerative discs, he's in some serious serious pain. He went the docs to get something to help with the pain( never taken opiates in his life) and when he gets home I see a patch on his arm. The doc first run gives him fentenayl patches, I was livid to say the least! May as well sent him home with a needle and dope. My dad walked around like a zombie for a year almost until he quit taking that shit.

I love a good nod as much as the rest of you, been years since I've done that again. Although to be in control of myself and feel emotions again is priceless IMO.

That's my point..
I'm not one to talk as god knows I've done my fair share of pretty much every drug, but it was on my own doing, and I wasn't getting strung out by a Dr, for an injury I'm not even completely convinced exists in the first place mind you..
I've tried warning him how much shit hell be in if he ever decides to want to get off of them, but he really hasn't a clue for what is in store for him at some point in his future ..

 

[rory420420]

Some people can't or won't listen...'cant be bad,the doctor gave them to me'...

 

[racerboy71]

Some people can't or won't listen...'cant be bad,the doctor gave them to me'...

That last part is what really gets me.. people would never think a Dr would get them strung out when it happens every day.. it really is kind of sad when it happens to people who have no clue what they're getting into..

 

[beuffer420]

That's my point..
I'm not one to talk as god knows I've done my fair share of pretty much every drug, but it was on my own doing, and I wasn't getting strung out by a Dr, for an injury I'm not even completely convinced exists in the first place mind you..
I've tried warning him how much shit hell be in if he ever decides to want to get off of them, but he really hasn't a clue for what is in store for him at some point in his future ..

Yea I was never prescribed anything myself, but had a terrible needle jones for 8 yrs. he doesn't have a clue how far down you can go. Or how fast it happens before you even realize your screwed. I'm not one to talk either, I just more get a bad feeling in my stomach when I hear people taking all this stuff and aren't educated as to what it can form.

My brain never fully healed from all the abuse I put it through for those years, it's slowly getting better though. At least now I'm educated a little and can weigh doing real drugs towards the bad side now.

 

[Mr.Vega]

I like both James woods and melanie Griffith..
Now I'm going to have to hunt it down..

One of my all time fave books is Requiem for a dream by Hubert Selby Jr. Much better than the movie with Jared leto and one of the wayans and Jennifer connelly IMO..

How bout "Rush"...or "Trainspotting"....all bad movies for someone in attempted recovery...but stil good flix

 

[racerboy71]

How bout "Rush"...or "Trainspotting"....all bad movies for someone in attempted recovery...but stil good flix

I feel like I'm floating on a cloud of titties .. lol..
Both my friends top movies.. seen both many a time..

 

[Mr.Vega]

I feel like I'm floating on a cloud of titties .. lol..
Both my friends top movies.. seen both many a time..

Thats my fav scene....haha..."ur the first white boy taste some of that n not puke"...haha

 

[MrEDuck]

why were you giving animals perfectly good drugs!?! Damn duck..hooking the pond up huh?..lol

Not all of my chemical experience has been clandestine thank you very much! I have actually worked doing legit funded research.

When I read through this and saw what racers friend gets prescribed my teeth cringed! Don't get me wrong I was the guy who passed out talking to you in mid sentence and was a pro at sleeping while standing, but to think about how much it hurt to stop all that I'm glad it's not me prescribed those meds.

Why a doctor would prescribe all that is a mystery to me(multiple opiates with Benz). In fact my father has degenerative discs, he's in some serious serious pain. He went the docs to get something to help with the pain( never taken opiates in his life) and when he gets home I see a patch on his arm. The doc first run gives him fentenayl patches, I was livid to say the least! May as well sent him home with a needle and dope. My dad walked around like a zombie for a year almost until he quit taking that shit.

I love a good nod as much as the rest of you, been years since I've done that again. Although to be in control of myself and feel emotions again is priceless IMO.

Buh buh buh every dose of fentanyl patch says to give them only to opioid tolerant patients. That's a fucking malpractice suit right there.
Now what was that dr's name?

 

[racerboy71]

Not all of my chemical experience has been clandestine thank you very much! I have actually worked doing legit funded research.


Buh buh buh every dose of fentanyl patch says to give them only to opioid tolerant patients. That's a fucking malpractice suit right there.
Now what was that dr's name?

Funny MRE but I think I'm better off without having that drs name..

 

[MrEDuck]

Funny MRE but I think I'm better off without having that drs name..

I know I'm better off without but it doesn't stop me from being curious!

 

[Mr.Vega]

Yea I was never prescribed anything myself, but had a terrible needle jones for 8 yrs. he doesn't have a clue how far down you can go. Or how fast it happens before you even realize your screwed. I'm not one to talk either, I just more get a bad feeling in my stomach when I hear people taking all this stuff and aren't educated as to what it can form.

My brain never fully healed from all the abuse I put it through for those years, it's slowly getting better though. At least now I'm educated a little and can weigh doing real drugs towards the bad side now.

When I think of what ive done it literally frightens me....and I thank god daily for pulling me thru alive and half way sane...u cldnt pay me to consume the drugs I used to on an hourly basis...the only sense of it that I can make is I had made my life such a mess w the drugs I honestly didnt care if I lived or died back then...because I wasnt "living"...living for dope is not living imo...just yesterday I was replaying some old scenes in my life in my head and I iust sat there shaking my head in disgust/amazement/and thankfullness...ill do psychedelics and cannabis and my prescribed suboxon...but ill never let myself pick up a pipe w anything but weed or dmt in it for the rest of my days...I've escaped death too many times already I think...and like u I hate to see others goin down that path...they may not walk out

 

[canndo]

I can never figure out what "excess" really is. how much of a cerrtain drug really puts one in danger? How much of what kills people? I've thought many times that I must surely have ingested too much of something but apparently I have never come close - except I suppose for those few times.....

 

[racerboy71]

I can never figure out what "excess" really is. how much of a cerrtain drug really puts one in danger? How much of what kills people? I've thought many times that I must surely have ingested too much of something but apparently I have never come close - except I suppose for those few times.....

i'm the same way and have the same thoughts canndo.. i've never had what could be considered an o.d. imo, and have often wondered why not..
sometimes i don't think it's really the amount that gets you, it's just the matter of it shutting down your central nervous system to the point that people simply stop breathing.. you could do 10 yesterday, and one today, and it was just your time is my feeling.. i could be way off base of course..

 

[MrEDuck]

I can never figure out what "excess" really is. how much of a cerrtain drug really puts one in danger? How much of what kills people? I've thought many times that I must surely have ingested too much of something but apparently I have never come close - except I suppose for those few times.....

Well we have the therapeutic ratio (index? i cant recall) which is a ratio of the lethal dose to the effective dose. Higher numbers are better. Some drugs like barbiturates have very low ones, while some like THC and LSD seem damn near infinite.

i'm the same way and have the same thoughts canndo.. i've never had what could be considered an o.d. imo, and have often wondered why not..
sometimes i don't think it's really the amount that gets you, it's just the matter of it shutting down your central nervous system to the point that people simply stop breathing.. you could do 10 yesterday, and one today, and it was just your time is my feeling.. i could be way off base of course..

Tolerance is situational.
I had two times. Once I came to with a needle in my arm and the other time in the middle of the floor.

 

[beuffer420]

When I think of what ive done it literally frightens me....and I thank god daily for pulling me thru alive and half way sane...u cldnt pay me to consume the drugs I used to on an hourly basis...the only sense of it that I can make is I had made my life such a mess w the drugs I honestly didnt care if I lived or died back then...because I wasnt "living"...living for dope is not living imo...just yesterday I was replaying some old scenes in my life in my head and I iust sat there shaking my head in disgust/amazement/and thankfullness...ill do psychedelics and cannabis and my prescribed suboxon...but ill never let myself pick up a pipe w anything but weed or dmt in it for the rest of my days...I've escaped death too many times already I think...and like u I hate to see others goin down that path...they may not walk out

I know all too well playing the memories out and just shaking my head in disgust lol.

As far as excess goes everyone's different from what I've witnessed. Some can just handle more than others I guess. I've od a few times but all the signs were there I was going to just couldn't stop putting the crap in my arm. I watched people drop like flies in Detroit when all the fentenayl cut dope was around. It was scary times to say the least.

now though, I can look back and say thanks to life for showing me that avenue, as it taught many things I consider priceless. I just stick to cannabis now, got off methadone a few years back not sure how long exactly don't really keep track. My life is now simple, what seemed so complicated at one time now makes sense, and it just took me not doing drugs to achieve what I wanted. TO FEEL "NORMAL"

 

[Mr.Vega]

I know all too well playing the memories out and just shaking my head in disgust lol.

As far as excess goes everyone's different from what I've witnessed. Some can just handle more than others I guess. I've od a few times but all the signs were there I was going to just couldn't stop putting the crap in my arm. I watched people drop like flies in Detroit when all the fentenayl cut dope was around. It was scary times to say the least.

now though, I can look back and say thanks to life for showing me that avenue, as it taught many things I consider priceless. I just stick to cannabis now, got off methadone a few years back not sure how long exactly don't really keep track. My life is now simple, what seemed so complicated at one time now makes sense, and it just took me not doing drugs to achieve what I wanted. TO FEEL "NORMAL"

wow bueffer..ive lost a couple friends to that very same dope....detroit dope boys took my home town over abt 15-20years ago....everything here comes from the 313 u see more michigan tags in the hood round here than u do home state tags...im bout 6hours from detroit n id say every major player in this town is a D boy...n the ones from here that are left cop from D boys....they even nicknamed my home town (the detroit boys did)...they all got it tatted on their hands...I wont say what it is cause itd give me away....the cops here have done several hood wide sweeps repelling out of helicopters w machine guns n everything n called one of em "operation (nickname)"....its crazy....they were bringin that fentanyl heroin here n ppl were droppin not knowin what they were doin

 

[Mr.Vega]

I know all too well playing the memories out and just shaking my head in disgust lol.

As far as excess goes everyone's different from what I've witnessed. Some can just handle more than others I guess. I've od a few times but all the signs were there I was going to just couldn't stop putting the crap in my arm. I watched people drop like flies in Detroit when all the fentenayl cut dope was around. It was scary times to say the least.

now though, I can look back and say thanks to life for showing me that avenue, as it taught many things I consider priceless. I just stick to cannabis now, got off methadone a few years back not sure how long exactly don't really keep track. My life is now simple, what seemed so complicated at one time now makes sense, and it just took me not doing drugs to achieve what I wanted. TO FEEL "NORMAL"

good for u off the done..not many can say that...I kicked the done but only w subs....thats my crutch now n future battle

 

[racerboy71]

good for u off the done..not many can say that...I kicked the done but only w subs....thats my crutch now n future battle

i'm down to 15 mg's of done after 12 years, a high of 50.. i got a stock pile of subs for when i finally ween myself off..

 

[MrEDuck]

You really could make the switch at anytime you wanted. If you can get like a half dozen OC20s take one every 8-12 hours starting 24 hours after your last dose of done and then wait until about an hour or two after you start feeling some w/d and take the sub. You feel kind of crappy for a few hours instead of a few days.

 

[Mr.Vega]

i'm down to 15 mg's of done after 12 years, a high of 50.. i got a stock pile of subs for when i finally ween myself off..

I was at 110 of done...dropped 10mgs per week til I hit 30mgs then nothing for 48hours then started subs....16mgs...I really didnt have a hard time at all..I mean it wasnt awesome or anything but I managed and stil functioned...worked n all that...im much happier on subs...but...I am very addicted to them mentally...the physicals an obvious n no need to mention but mentally I fear the day I have to wake up w out 2strips a bowl a dank cig n coffee...thats my get up n go EVERY DAY of my livin life....and im very content and happy w this routine...my doc will cut me down n has tried already...its not gonna last forever I know this but I dont accept it yet