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ChesusRice

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RyanTheRhino said:
My Grandfather and Uncle used this symbolize before fanatic republicans took hold of it.

If you don't see the resemblance then you are just a simple minded partisan thug that knows nothing about the the foundation of america ...

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The country made for white males only?
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Harrekin said:
Pro-tip, the Sunnis are the ones who don't casually drink alcohol.

Shias tend to care FAR less.
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islam is not a monolith.

some moslems are quite devout and obey the korans instruction to varying degrees, others are quite secular and islam is treated like many western religious denominations, something to do on holy days or when social pressure is applied.

but islam is NOT a western theology.

many serious wackado militant moslems firmly believe that when they leave "Dar Al Islam" god cant them and doesnt care what they do except on rammadan. the 9/11 highjackers for example, enjoyed strippers, booze hookers, porn etc etc etc, wore western clothing, and basically lived the high life on OBL's money with the expectation that their "Martyrdom" would ensure their entrance into paradise no matter how badly they behaved in the west outside allah's sight.

moslem thought is so far removed from western thought that it is incomprehensible.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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jason1976 said:
like i was told..provide proof. im not out of my element. i know my geneology. inspired me to study the events and thus the outcome . call it what you will say it didnt happen, whatever you want to say. i beleive the proofs is there. and lol at the son thing...
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You know fuck all bro, cite one reliable source.

Btw, I'm an actual Irish person, not some "plastic paddy" like you, therefore I probably learnt Irish history somewhat more comprehensively than you.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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jason1976 said:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076 read away all knowing one. then apologize for being a condesending dick.
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Your citation is devoid of any evidence. Perhaps you are unable to tell the difference between historical documentation and nut job propaganda? Those Irish not only volunteered to come here, they PAID for the privilege. Some quite dearly, becoming indentured servants to pay the fare. And "indentured servant" doesn't constitute slavery, since I'm sure you now will try to claim it is.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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Red1966 said:
Your citation is devoid of any evidence. Perhaps you are unable to tell the difference between historical documentation and nut job propaganda? Those Irish not only volunteered to come here, they PAID for the privilege. Some quite dearly, becoming indentured servants to pay the fare. And "indentured servant" doesn't constitute slavery, since I'm sure you now will try to claim it is.
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yes Heretical, from now on you must cite you information in[text](A1)...
 
jason1976

jason1976

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Harrekin said:
You know fuck all bro, cite one reliable source.

Btw, I'm an actual Irish person, not some "plastic paddy" like you, therefore I probably learnt Irish history somewhat more comprehensively than you.
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learnt? actual irish person? your education shows loudly my irish friend. while you learnt your history did they forget proper spelling? and my reliable source was cited. read up, and dont be embarrased because it happened. embrace it as history and learn it.
 
jason1976

jason1976

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Red1966 said:
Your citation is devoid of any evidence. Perhaps you are unable to tell the difference between historical documentation and nut job propaganda? Those Irish not only volunteered to come here, they PAID for the privilege. Some quite dearly, becoming indentured servants to pay the fare. And "indentured servant" doesn't constitute slavery, since I'm sure you now will try to claim it is.
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deny the truth. everyone else does. im glad all you non believers can grow bud, cause you sure wouldnt make a living teaching history. and your 10 year senior of myself is no doubt respected, open your mind and learn something new.
 
Doer

Doer

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jason1976 said:
like i was told..provide proof. im not out of my element. i know my geneology. inspired me to study the events and thus the outcome . call it what you will say it didnt happen, whatever you want to say. i beleive the proofs is there. and lol at the son thing...
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Out of it big time if you will stamp feet an insist there were no Irish slaves. You have no idea. Indentured is the same thing if there is no way beyond the Company Store. But, they were not even indentured for the most part. So, do research before being weird.
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The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.


Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.


From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.


During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.


Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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jason1976 said:
deny the truth. everyone else does. im glad all you non believers can grow bud, cause you sure wouldnt make a living teaching history. and your 10 year senior of myself is no doubt respected, open your mind and learn something new.
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So can you cite something other than a opinionated essay?

Nope?

Google "Coffin Ships", educate yourself and you'll realise the people on the ships PAID to escape the conditions that were here at the time.

Fucking fake potato-head thinks he knows something...
 
Doer

Doer

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Harrekin said:
So can you cite something other than a opinionated essay?

Nope?

Google "Coffin Ships", educate yourself and you'll realise the people on the ships PAID to escape the conditions that were here at the time.

Fucking fake potato-head thinks he knows something...
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Are you really trying say this English Kings did not EVER take up and sell Irish slaves? And that is outside of the question of Escaping.



I would think in this day and age you would be proud of that.
 
Doer

Doer

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OTH, it may be a HOAX. Not the first or the last. For whatever anti-Irish sentiment that can be imagined. So, you would think this so called, always reference Proclamation of James II in 1625, would be real? Yes? NO.

James II was not the King. Charles I was King. And I have searched this book and there is no mention of selling Irish slaves.



King James I and His Royal Proclamations 1610-1625


Esther Sidney Cope
0 Reviews
University of Wisconsin--Madison, 1965 - 284 pages



The letters, speeches and proclamations of King Charles I


Charles I (King of England), England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I) 0 Reviews
Cassell, 1968 - Biography & Autobiography - 320 pages


So, unless someone can show me the actual text of the, for Real, Proclamation, I say this is just a HOAX for money.

Point to Hark.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Seriously, this is a really REALLY small country...

If there was Irish Slavery, do you not think some of us would've known about it?

Peasant farmers paying extortionate rates to absentee Proddy landlords...yes.

Slaves?

Eh, no.
 
Doer

Doer

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But, but...why would someone lie and not make actually references, just to make big money selling a book? Why would people be so quick to assume it was not all African slaves in the trade? Why would they want to under cut and make light of the suffering by saying, oh plenty of White slaves? Why would they make an entire book without ever quoting the ONLY point of the issue? Why not provide the proof?

And why would all the anti-Irish be so quick to repeat this big pack of....oh....never mind.
 
Doer

Doer

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Doer said:
Out of it big time if you will stamp feet an insist there were no Irish slaves. You have no idea. Indentured is the same thing if there is no way beyond the Company Store. But, they were not even indentured for the most part. So, do research before being weird.
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The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.


Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.


From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.


During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.


Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgotten-white-slaves/31076
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This is bullshit. There is no Proclamation.
 
jason1976

jason1976

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wow, simple minded people are so funny. how do we as people move forward in life when the truths of past are so blatently left behind,and dug up only when the need is suited? ill never understand the shallow beliefs that people have. good luck on "i think id have heard of it since im irish"bs. youd think people inm the us would know that we nuked ourselves in the 50s too, but no one does. nations have a way of not letting people know what really happened or transpired during the time period. id say believe it or not. stay shallow,its safer there.
 
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