DNA LEMON SKUNK...by L.K.

[Lemon king]

colas are shaping up nicely lemon man classic sativa airy buds. some peeps don;t like it i don't mind. it's still frosty bud!?

i FUCKIN HATE IT, first and last time...i swear out of all the hazes and sat doms ive grown ive always had hard nugs......this strain always produces rock hard nugs.....

the only thing that makes me think its not heat related is the ls in the other picks (scrog one with no net) was fully burnt by me not lifting the light.....and still produced rock hard nugs....

things im considering...........

it seems to have only happened on top buds.......there is one bud at the back, and the nugs on the side facing the fan have really foxtailed, whilst the other side of the nug seems normal......now if it is the fan LS1 suffered canno leafs on the very top of the forming buds as the fan was pointed at her tops to then blow onto the higher ls2....

the only change i can think off it temps have dropped in the uk so much....my girl is in the middle of a big empty room......im thinking the room has got very cold during lights off.....and this coupled with the strong fan wind may have lowered temps enough to have caused airy buds like this.....

also the light died after first 4 weeks, maybe having low light for the bud formation stages then high lumens for the last few weeks caused stress.....

maybe it was the mainling technique.....sats dont like to me topped much....the SLH above was grown normally no topping and look at the nugs, like pineapples they were.....

i have to give Ls1 another go though...YES DON shes the frostiest girls ive ever seen and the most stinky when you move a branch in the light she giltters so much.....

UURRRGGGGHHHH FUCKIN AIRY BUDS!! WHY HAS NO ONE BRED THIS TRAIT OUT YET!!!!

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

ah man it's not such a big deal. I'd reckon it's light intensity to blame for sure. live n learn bro.

 

[Lemon king]

glad to hear thats what you think clones nearly got thrown to the green eaters, in a fit of rage......

it only matters so much this time as i needed a decent weight so i could save all my money instead of buying it from dealers.....i hate criminals......

 

[Lemon king]

posts i just found from user COLONUGGS on RIU

DNA LS on the left side SLH on the right side....

• first off 2 different animals...lemon skunk in a sativa dom indi..... SLH is a haze takes longer to finish....differnet highs
  
  
  heres DNA's Lemon Skunk(left side) next to a SLH....both of these phenos have super lemony smell and taste....the haze high lastes for hours alot longer than the LS
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  ya i hear bros heres the lemon skunk @ 7 weeks flower high last 3-4 hours....My pheno of super lemon haze the high last atleast 5-6 hours
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[Don Gin and Ton]

hahahah there's no criminals on this site is there?!?!?! street dealers can fuck right off though. you don't get them up north though tbh. they'd get turned over in moments haha

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

christ he must be watering those first two every 5 minutes. and i thought i used small pots lol

 

[Lemon king]

this is the first time i have seen a DNA LS grown natural.....

i am seriously wondering weather or not to bother training them any more or if they would prefer to grow as is....looking at this pick and my SLH both untopped and untrained....it seems the plant has its best branching system when left by its self......

what do you think works better looking at these picks yeild wise (approx blah blah)....

left norm
...notice buds are pritty much the same size all over....nice and spaced out....

or mainling....(the mainlining to me looks like the better yeild)

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

i think mainlining is better suited to squat indica's but that's just my 2p man. you'd probably have got better results scrogging them.

the pics above look a couple weeks apart flower wise so it's hard to say.

 

[Lemon king]

ta don!! nugbuckets does say its not really suited to sativas because of secondary branching?? what ever that means?

im sure sativas just dont like being topped etc as i said i think they have great structure, anyways and buds up and down seem pritty uniform as sats let loads of light through.....

the grow before this that i burnt (the scrog with no net) was grown out to 2 feet au natural, then topped once to remove the main cola...i then topped every top to get that sea of buds....maybe that was one top to far!

i think my plan of action will be to run LS1 again mainline and see if i can sort out these airy buds....ill have ls3 and maybe ls4 (tap root has appeard and stopped due to being cold i think) so i should be certain which ones the keeper....it would be ls1 if these buds were rock hard!!!

@DON with the SLH x SC do you remember how any of the plants smelt or tasted? does Scherry acctually taste like cherry, are they lemony???

i think once i have found the best pheno of this pack ill be getting back onto the SLH and finding a huge yeilding haze to cross her too.....then i will grow that for life....lol

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

the smelly fingerez tasted of cherry cream soda, the cut i had at least the rest were varying degrees of lemon and cream soda. yorshireman did the pheno hunt he's your man to ask

 

[papapayne]

The whole theory of nug buckets with mainlining was that all the colas would form off one central node thus they would all be similar sized, receive equal distribution of nutrients, light, water etc. I haven't managed to get through all pages of his main line thread, but if you look at his plants that are mainlined, all they are is main colas, there's none of the side colas side nugs or buttom nugs. To me its kinda like doing a SOG but with one plant, and thus would lollipop each cola as you would a SOG plant

 

[Lemon king]

good thoughts. ive been reading allot off diarys on the scrog method and they seem to reccomend topping to leave 4 branches (2 more then ML)

then spreading the canopy to create multiple "top bud sites" then trimming up the underskirt to leave a blanket of top colas......

is this not more or less the same ideA???

 

[Bertie Bassett]

Mainlining is SCROG without a net but takes longer per grow because you're only ever using the new growth, it is a pretty looking gimmick though I'll give it that.

 

[papapayne]

More or less its similar, however SCROG can be much lower stress on the plant, and as bertie pointed out, with a SCROG you aren't removing a ton of veg growth. With a scrog, any node can become a cola once you flip, but with main linining, you are removing veg growth that would have become nugs. While its not necessarily the norm, you don't even have to top a plant to do a SCROG. Most people do top at least one time with a scrog, just to get the screen to fill up faster. I think the point of mainlining was some plants don't get viney enough to do a scrog, and also, its nice to not have a plant stuck in location because its growing into a screen. Nugbuckets moves his main liners around a lot from a greenhouse to indoors, and its easier to transport main liners. I like the idea of SCROGs, and they seem to give people great results especially if they only do one plant with a huge pot and veg time, but I don't think I will ever do one. I move my plants around a ton, I take them in and out of the tent to clean, take pictures, inspect, etc etc, and to me that is a necessary part of being able to read your plants. If I couldn't access the rear plants that would be a huge issue for me and the quality I know would suffer. Also, I don't think there is a practical way in a tent to do a SCROG with multiple strains. Every plant is gonna fill a screen up at a different pace, different strains are gonna stretch differently, so the canopy would never be even. IDK about you but if I smoke the same few strains of weed I build up a tolerance to those strains. I need a larger variety.

 

[Lemon king]

papa it can easily be done my friend check out stoneslackers hempy scrogs hes posted in this thread and his diarys in his sig.....the secret is to use screens attached to the pot not the floor...and in ref to height well im not sure how that will work out but hes doing well so far...

 

[papapayne]

That looks like one solid screen to me, unless I am missing something?

 

[stoneslacker]

Hey thanks for the kind words LK. I have run scrog and mainline and both can be very productive. The problem I have with running mainline is light penetration and height issues. Mainlines look great but with a scrog you sacrifice big main colas for alot of slightly smaller colas. The main 4-6 branch terminal ends will form large colas much like a mainline, and I still think a good scrog can be more productive by needing less veg recovery time from pruning and more even light distribution across the canopy.

I am still looking to incorporate a 4-head mainline spread out in a scrog setup one of these days to see if the "hub" makes a difference or not. IMO growth is almost always directed to the apex of the plant and scrog and LST training is used to change the "high point" of the plant and direct growth out evenly, so I'm not sure how much the hub system makes a difference in growth or nutrient delivery.

Papa I use individual screens made of small diameter metal rods attached directly to the buckets. I love variety and always grow 2-3 different strains in my scrog setup. I combine alot of LST with the scrog screen to keep the canopy even, and will train tops down late into mid-flower if needed. I just use nylon string and duct tape to even things out when growth gets to much for the screen to handle.

Pics of the screens. You can see the amount of string used to train branches well below the screen level and allow the lower nodes to grow vertical.

Peace

 

[Lemon king]

Hey thanks for the kind words LK. I have run scrog and mainline and both can be very productive. The problem I have with running mainline is light penetration and height issues. Mainlines look great but with a scrog you sacrifice big main colas for alot of slightly smaller colas. The main 4-6 branch terminal ends will form large colas much like a mainline, and I still think a good scrog can be more productive by needing less veg recovery time from pruning and more even light distribution across the canopy.

I am still looking to incorporate a 4-head mainline spread out in a scrog setup one of these days to see if the "hub" makes a difference or not. IMO growth is almost always directed to the apex of the plant and scrog and LST training is used to change the "high point" of the plant and direct growth out evenly, so I'm not sure how much the hub system makes a difference in growth or nutrient delivery....

The problem I have with running mainline is light penetration and height issues

i have also found this, as all my tops are mains they have filled in as so, so the buds are long and tall like how the main would be if i had left it........when you scrog as you say, the buds are not so vertical....i would have seen better light pen if i had a ring to spread them around...

leaving tops scrog style like i did and not tieing them down ment that light was only hitting the buds from top down rather then all up the side.

with a scrog you sacrifice big main colas for alot of slightly smaller colas.

this is very true.......is it for this reason scrog is better? they say buds an only produce what they are genetically capable of doing, and splitting the heads is just spreading the same amount of bud over a bigger area...

I'm not sure how much the hub system makes a difference in growth or nutrient delivery....

it works perfect, it does what it says on the tin, all my colas are more or less an exact replica of each other..almost like i grew 11 one bud stalks in a sog...however now im thinking about it, theres no reason why you couldnt do a mainline for 4 and then let the plant grow scrog style,
i left abit of popcorn bud on my girl and they've all come out great, maybe this is a better way forward.......

the main difference seems to be between the two that in a mainline you dont lay the colas flat...if i mainlined then layed the branches out flat the colas wouldnt be very vertically long but the branch still would be.....if ya get what i mean??


why did nugs say its not a good technique for sats?? too much stress??

 

[Lemon king]

lool just found this vid, hes done a mainline scrog without knowing it......

[video=youtube;7cxOpGXYEOA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxOpGXYEOA[/video]

 

[Lemon king]

"If you want the density, provide the intensity." Buds grown in relatively low light conditions will be looser than buds grown in high light intensity. Excessive heat, or a big swing between day and night temperature can promote streching and loose buds. Keeping the high temperature below 80F and the difference between high and low between 10 and 15 degrees will help promote tighter buds. Nice tight buds require a high ratio of K to N. Too little K and too much N can lead to looser buds.The dark cycle needs to be completely dark if possible, sit in your room when the lights are off for 15 minutes to see if it really is dark, light leaks can promote stretching of the buds.Switching from Fluoro to a 400w hps made a huge difference in my buds. They were a lot denser. The increase in light intensity also made my plants a lot more productive