I have a problem,is there someone to help me?

BCOGYODA

Well-Known Member
1.4ec isn't shockingly high and I doubt it's the problem with the plants. Everyone in the help section here advises what I'd consider starving babies "so they won't die".

1.4ec isn't burning the plants.

What nutrients are you using and at what ratios? How much of each bottle.
Yes it is too high for those small seed grown plants. If you want to give horrible advice to this grower go ahead. But I'll call you out on it without hesitation. You are completely wrong and her plants WILL continue to burn if they are fed at 900 ppm. Period. There is no question whether they will or won't.
 

Nizza

Well-Known Member
the algae is eating your nitrogen, take the plastic off and the extra air should take care of it. It may not hurt too just rip a little off of it.
I think what your seeing here is stress due to nutes; they may need more N but less food, because your feeding it too much.

take it this way i give my plants tap water (in hydro) till they get rooted or till the seedling is growing its 3rd or 4th set of leaves
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
This is bullshit. They will not "continue" to burn at 900ppm as they never started to burn in the first place.

Yes it is too high for those small seed grown plants. If you want to give horrible advice to this grower go ahead. But I'll call you out on it without hesitation. You are completely wrong and her plants WILL continue to burn if they are fed at 900 ppm. Period. There is no question whether they will or won't.
 

BCOGYODA

Well-Known Member
This is bullshit. They will not "continue" to burn at 900ppm as they never started to burn in the first place.
You should not be giving people any advice on this plant problem section. I read through your posts and you have no idea. Sorry if you don't like or are too immature to realize it but trust me guy you are so off it's scary. These plants are some peoples medicine. For you to make stupid sarcastic un helpful comments on their threads is just wasteful and it doesn't take long for people to see through your BS. For other users if you would like to check people out how they post to threads in past and currently go into their user name and check out their posts.
You even give advice to growers on threads that haven't even given any background information on what nutes they're using, in what ratios, what strengths, what their grow environments are etc..Which is just completely wrong and impossible to properly diagnose. Not only that it's mis-leading and can cause a patient to completely lose their supply of medicine.
I am a professional grower. I have been a commercial med grower for 5 years, worked in large commercial grows before that for 5 years before that, and before that I grew for my own and family supply for 10 years before that. I have 20 years of growing experience. I have seen it all when it comes to mj. And I have seen guys like you try to be internet warriors trying to help growers in the complete wrong way.
Read over this guys posts and see how rude, sarcastic, and un-knowledable he is. And If true medicinal growers ever need my help feel free to pm me. I will show you proof of my work and offer help to anyone that needs it.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
For starters you could have taken the plastic off of the rockwool.
NO...you don't remove it. You want the roots to grow downwards.

Thanks, Mr.John!I think it's a lack of nutrients and I intend to raise the level of concentration of the solution.
You should be feeding this size of girls just over your seedling mix. I would say your having ph issues or have locked something out because of the high concentration. Flush them out and start back with ph balanced half strength for their first feeding then regular feeding from that point on.

House&garden Aqua flakes grow a+b
Decent product, do you use meters with it? ph, ec, ppm meter? Good Luck JAS
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
You're a novice if you think 900ppm will burn seedlings in a DWC or any similar hydroponic setup. I bet you've never actually tried it.

"I ran my dwc with no nutes for the first 2 weeks".

"just flush"

"flushing fixes everything!"

It really is the blind leading the blind here.

Quit running your mouth, novice. I've probably been growing since before you were born. Almost half the threads in the help section have people starving their plants and slow growth to show for it. If you want to take some sort of moral high grounds here, you should also take credit for all the plants that are 2 weeks behind schedule because a bunch of noobs were told to starve their plants.

You should not be giving people any advice on this plant problem section. I read through your posts and you have no idea. Sorry if you don't like or are too immature to realize it but trust me guy you are so off it's scary. These plants are some peoples medicine. For you to make stupid sarcastic un helpful comments on their threads is just wasteful and it doesn't take long for people to see through your BS. For other users if you would like to check people out how they post to threads in past and currently go into their user name and check out their posts.
You even give advice to growers on threads that haven't even given any background information on what nutes they're using, in what ratios, what strengths, what their grow environments are etc..Which is just completely wrong and impossible to properly diagnose. Not only that it's mis-leading and can cause a patient to completely lose their supply of medicine.
I am a professional grower. I have been a commercial med grower for 5 years, worked in large commercial grows before that for 5 years before that, and before that I grew for my own and family supply for 10 years before that. I have 20 years of growing experience. I have seen it all when it comes to mj. And I have seen guys like you try to be internet warriors trying to help growers in the complete wrong way.
Read over this guys posts and see how rude, sarcastic, and un-knowledable he is. And If true medicinal growers ever need my help feel free to pm me. I will show you proof of my work and offer help to anyone that needs it.
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
I'm not even particularly suggesting anyone use 900ppm from the start so much as saying it's not a glaring issue that would cause the plant to burn.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
You're a novice if you think 900ppm will burn seedlings in a DWC or any similar hydroponic setup. I bet you've never actually tried it.
I have tried it and I have set up many systems. I have seven on the go right now. Can you explain how 900ppm does not burn seedlings please. Some strains only require 300-400ppm for a total grow. Most of the set ups I have done are not run over 850 at any time and produce pounds at a time. JAS
 

churchhaze

Well-Known Member
I run my current setup at about 850ppm from start to finish. Again, I'm not particularly suggesting that as a level to use for seedlings, but I don't see any reason not to just start with 850ppm. I've thrown quite a bit at seedlings before by accident in the past without burning them (1200+).

Think about it, in nature, you don't control the level of nutrients in the soil. It's highest when you plant the seed and lower at maturity as it depletes nutrients in the soil. This is why old style farming uses crop rotation. It's because the nutrients in the soil become depleted and need to replenish.

You don't feed a baby watered down milk, you feed them milk, which is very nutrient rich. The baby simply drinks LESS of it.

I have tried it and I have set up many systems. I have seven on the go right now. Can you explain how 900ppm does not burn seedlings please. Some strains only require 300-400ppm for a total grow. Most of the set ups I have done are not run over 850 at any time and produce pounds at a time. JAS
 

Pavlin

Active Member
Thanks to everyone that participated in the authorization of my problem! I make a flush and set EC 0.7-1.0 and ph-5.8-6.2?
 

lahadaextranjera

Well-Known Member
EC 1.4 is way too high for those seedlings!! Usually my plants are under that level when they go into flower at week 3. I'd be on EC 0.6- 0.9 until about 20cm. Then start flower at EC 1.0.

Trust me, I've burnt a lot of plants in my time (ask Churchaze lol) and you want to lower the PH to 5,5-6,0. Good luck !
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
Thanks to everyone that participated in the authorization of my problem! I make a flush and set EC 0.7-1.0 and ph-5.8-6.2?
What type of system are you running? Usually I will recommend a swing as wide as you can, for example start at 5.6 and allow it to swing all the way through to 6.2. Most plants tolerate this and it allows for complete uptake. JAS
 

Pavlin

Active Member
Pavlin any updates? Did you drop your solution to .07 EC? ( do NOT go higher than that for now)
Wait a few days. The strange thing is that when put clean water shows 670us without chemicals ... and preparations need to be so? uS of water is 130-140 after being added to the container shows me 640?
 
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